I wrote in May that Jota (23) was more important to retain than Cameron Carter-Vickers on a permanent contract. At that point, the profile of both players was high after a successful term in Glasgow, we would not have been the only potential destination. It is a huge credit to chief exec Michael Nicolson and the club that they have delivered both.
Cameron was our best defender, a potential Celtic captain, but still, I wanted Jota more. Opponents fear him. He can take a ball when marked tightly and the defender will not lunge in to attempt a steal, knowing Jota has the ability to move ball and body before they have formulated a thought.
If an opposition team leave him one-on-one, they better not lose possession. He is Celtic’s most effective out-ball; left with only one defender to beat, he can turn defence into an opportunity to score faster than Usain Bolt could track back.
When Aiden McGeady signed for Hibs this week, my thoughts went back to so many great memories. Prominent among them, was watching him as an 18-year-old, bring his instant control to a 2004 Celtic-Milan Champions League game. No one else in the Celtic team had that ball control.
Jota has the same effortless control.
So what about the Magic Window, where Celtic have seen enough of the player to make their move, before wealthier clubs get involved?
Incredibly, Jota had only played an entire 90 minutes of a game only twice before joining Celtic, both cup games for Benfica against lower league opposition. The season before arriving in Glasgow was mostly spent on the bench, watching his Real Valladolid side fail to ward off relegation. He made 8 starts there and was hooked each time, adding 10 appearances from the bench.
Across his career, before joining Celtic on loan last year, he made 9 starts and 29 sub appearances in senior football. Magic window? More a magic letterbox. He had hardly put studs on grass.
Valladolid was clearly a wrong move. As we have discussed previously about Patrick Roberts, he is a creative talent and needs to be with a team that spends lots of time attacking, sides fighting relegation would be unable to get the ball to him enough to see the benefit of giving him a shirt. It was the classic square peg/round hole problem – one we should be on the lookout for again.
To know the value of the player, Celtic would have to uncover knowledge only visible at Portuguese and Spanish reserve level games. The resources required to cover this much ground is unfathomable through traditional means. You are looking at the result of very effective analytics.
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Stx2 @ 6.01
Could I suggest ignorance — there is a lot of it about.
So don’t be shy — share the wealth.
Don’t Bogart that info.
How have you accessed the QP share register?
CM @ 6.04
Says a man who lives in a country where men in skirts is an everyday occurrence.
THEORIGINALSADIESBHOY
TOM MCLAUGHLIN on 2ND JULY 2022 5:33 PM
THEORIGINALSADIESBHOY
I think you meant Goethe.
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?
Just a wee play on words. Nothing sinister.
Yesterday you meant to type Schalke but auto correct changed it to Schiller.
I said – I think you meant Goethe.
In classical German litererary circles, Goethe and Schiller go together like Lennon and McCartney.
GARYGILLESPIESHAMSTRING on 3RD JULY 2022 2:47 PM
The stories and headlines sneering at Barkas’ Utrecht debut circulating on a variety of social media platforms are cheap shots at an easy target.
While Utrecht did lose four, the score when Barkas left the field was actually 1-1, so the sub was worse.
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Barkas was signed for big money, but his performances were very poor. Maybe he should have looked in the mirror before advising goalkeepers not to go to Celtic.
He is still a Celtic player but we will never recoup our money.
Nevertheless I wish him well
HH.
ERNIE LYNCH & MADMITCH
And there it is. Wait long enough for a clandestine right winger to display right wing views and you get two for the price of one.
Result.
TMcL @ 6.27
WTF — ??? !!! ???
Explain please — that is fighting talk.
TMcL @ 6.27
So please help / explain yourself?
Your comments — in what context are you making them?
Natland survival?
Alfabet soup identity politics?
Old crabbit guy shouting “gotcha” at the cat?
TOM MCLAUGHLIN on 3RD JULY 2022 6:27 PM
Oooh, get you!
A real man and no mistake.
TOM MCLAUGHLIN on 3RD JULY 2022 6:17 PM
THEORIGINALSADIESBHOY
TOM MCLAUGHLIN on 2ND JULY 2022 5:33 PM
THEORIGINALSADIESBHOY
I think you meant Goethe.
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?
Just a wee play on words. Nothing sinister.
Yesterday you meant to type Schalke but auto correct changed it to Schiller.
I said – I think you meant Goethe.
In classical German litererary circles, Goethe and Schiller go together like Lennon and McCartney.
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I know about Goethe but didn’t know about Schiller. Thanks for the explanation. I’ve learned something today. Every day’s a school day. 👍
mad mitch
Kameez, Thobe certainly
Dishdasha and Kandoorah occasionally
Men wearing skirts, frowned upon
MenInTightsCSC
SAINT STIVS on 3RD JULY 2022 6:01 PM
EL
I can see no valid reason for you not looking it up yourself.
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I don’t know how to. That’s why I was asking you to explain how to do it.
But you can’t. Because Companies House don’t hold the information.
St. STIVS
I’m following the three way discourse between Mad Mitch, Ernie and yourself. You could enhance their knowledge and add to the discussion by providing them with the information which they respectfully seek.
If EL had bothered just to look at companies house he would see why Willie is not a shareholder, NOBODY IS, witrhout bothering anyone with the structure it is run like a not for profit charity trust, there is no share captial or market valuation, it will have a constitution that the active directors are liable for debts.
thats is, would have taken either of them 1 minute to find it.
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Name
Queen’s Park Football Club Limited (The)
Status ACTIVE
Active since incorporation Confirmation Submitted
Last submitted on 31 May 2022 (1 month ago)
Next confirmation dated 31 May 2023
Due by 14 June 2023 (11 months remaining)
Last change occurred 5 years ago
Accounts Submitted
Last accounts submitted for period 31 December 2020 (1 year 6 months ago)
Accounts type was Small Company
Next accounts dated 31 December 2021
Due by 30 September 2022 (2 months remaining)
Company No. SC005382
Private Limited By Guarantee without Share Capital
Haughey indeed anyone cannot buy QPFC Ltd, you cannot invest in it.
You can gift them monies, and you can make donations, you can offcourse sponsor them or buy something from them , but you cant invest in it as a company.
The man himself stated it is a gift.
Companies House overview first page, 10 second search.
Registered office address
Queen’s Park Football Club Ltd J B Mcalpine Pavillion, Hampden Park, Glasgow, Scotland, G42 9BA
Company status
Active
Company type
Private company limited by guarantee without share capital
Incorporated on
23 June 1903
Accounts
Next accounts made up to 31 December 2021
due by 30 September 2022
Last accounts made up to 31 December 2020
Confirmation statement
Next statement date 31 May 2023
due by 14 June 2023
Last statement dated 31 May 2022
Nature of business (SIC)
93110 – Operation of sports facilities
SAINT STIVS on 3RD JULY 2022 7:11 PM
Thank you. Wasn’t difficult was it?
As I said I’ve no interest in what Willie Haughey is or isn’t up to. I was interested only in how you get shareholder information from Companies House. As it happens it’s not relevant for Queens Park Ltd because of it doesn’t have share capital, so is of no relevance to what I was asking.
No idea why you couldn’t have just said so in the beginning.
THEORIGINALSADIESBHOY on 3RD JULY 2022 6:46 PM
maybe a future “ownership” model for us, some generous fella buys the plc then gifts it to the members.
one member one vote type structure, but then we would need to be liable for any debts also.
We should consider engaging Izaguirre as a Host, Guide, Mentor and Translator (not sure how much English Izzy has) for Bernabei. A 2 or 3 month stint might be beneficial for all concerned to ease the transition into Celtic. Thoughts?
HH
Stx2 @ 7.11
Please do bother us with the structure?
Does this mean that QP is a membership organisation?
If that is the case what qualifies you be a member of the club?
Buying a season ticket?
Are any of our friendlies in austria
on celtic tv
St. STIVS
Thank you for those posts and providing clarity.
ERNIE LYNCH on 3RD JULY 2022 7:17 PM
SAINT STIVS on 3RD JULY 2022 7:11 PM
No idea why you couldn’t have just said so in the beginning.
I was out driving, could only post between stops, so why couldnt you take the advice and look it up yourself, not difficult is it
Wonder what the membership is?
Mr Fridge Magnet
Mrs Fridge Magnet
OC’s granny
As noted — might be a way to organise ourselves in the future.
The debt issue is a red herring — can be overcome.
Celtic dawn
They are all live on Celtic tv
Might offer some light reading …
https://www.companylawclub.co.uk/companies-limited-by-guarantee#:~:text=A%20company%20limited%20by%20guarantee%20is%20much%20like,or%20any%20shareholders%2C%20but%20members%20who%20control%20it.
Apologies regarding these URL’s / links.
They have a mind of their own.
Stx2 @ this afternoon
Thank you for the response.
Neither the Baron or the Baroneness, indeed not even Owens granny are directors (members) of QPFC Limited.
There are 41 named individuals, but those 3 are not on it.
SAINT STIVS on 3RD JULY 2022 7:18 PM
THEORIGINALSADIESBHOY on 3RD JULY 2022 6:46 PM
maybe a future “ownership” model for us, some generous fella buys the plc then gifts it to the members.
one member one vote type structure, but then we would need to be liable for any debts also.
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I think it is the dream of lots of Celtic supporters to have the Club owned by the fans but the last line of your post would give many ‘the fear’.
I would like the generous fella to buy the Club and be ‘hands on’, demonstrating that he is ambitious for Celtic on the European stage every season rather than doing enough to just keep ourselves ahead of Sevco.
Stx2 @ 7.31
So what you are telling us that is that the controlling membership of QP is limited to 41 named members who act as directors?
Or 41 named directors who act as members / make up the membership are the controlling entity.
Strange — how are / were these directors chosen?
How can you be sure that the controlling membership is limited to these 41 individuals?
There might be a wider membership behind them that elects them?
TOSB @ 7.35
The membership would not be liable to the debt of the club — the liability can be limited to a nominal sum.
No, def no performance enhancing drugs at the bigot dome
https://twitter.com/C1872_/status/1543637109034065920?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1543637109034065920%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=
Wee Rachel Riley would struggle on here….
MADMITCH on 3RD JULY 2022 7:39 PM
TOSB @ 7.35
The membership would not be liable to the debt of the club — the liability can be limited to a nominal sum.
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That’s very good to know! The wife would get very annoyed if I had to hand over my monthly pension because our elected leader made a hash of it. No more annual holiday in the sun. 🤣🤣🤣
Evening all.
FRIESDORFER on 3RD JULY 2022 7:22 PM
We should consider engaging Izaguirre as a Host, Guide, Mentor and Translator (not sure how much English Izzy has) for Bernabei. A 2 or 3 month stint might be beneficial for all concerned to ease the transition into Celtic. Thoughts?
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FRIESDORFER
Hope you are well.
You know, your suggestion to bring in Emilio is IMHO a cracking idea.
Ange is more than aware that players from different countries require support in their settling in process.
Our Japanese guys are testament to that, translators and off field support are crucial.
Brian
Sherwood’s very good – on bbc iplayer
Celtic to follow Queens Park company structure 😨
JM @ 8.00
I wish the BBC would do more of this type of drama.
The UK in all its glory / complexity / confusion.
Not period dramas or historical fairy tales.