Jozo’s Achilles, McGregor, McGeady, succession for Scott

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You can be sure Peter Lawwell was not working on contract renewals for Scott Brown, Jozo Simunovic and Callum McGregor last month, as the transfer window reached is climax, but 14 days after it closed, all three have signed new long-term deals.

Scott’s keeps him at the club until he turns 34 in two years. Jozo is contracted to 2021, when he will be 27, while Callum this morning also agreed to stay until 2021, when he will be 28.

Callum is a fascinating case study in player development. After making a substantial impact on the right wing, his form faded, but he has been reborn in central mid. More than anyone else at the club, he has an ability to instantly bring a difficult pass under control. This affords him that valuable commodity: vision.

I’m not going to tell you Callum is as good as the PSG players we saw on Tuesday, but he is the only player we have in the mould of their midfielders. They also fire the ball around with precision and control. Aiden McGeady had this ability in abundance (none of his Celtic contemporaries did). I’d like to have seen the Green Garrincha in a central role.

My sense is that we may have struggled to re-sign Jozo if questions didn’t hang over his knee. His ability is comfortably worth an eight-figure transfer fee and far higher wages than Celtic could afford. The player’s proverbial Achilles heel may bestow long-term stability in Celtic’s defence.

Celtic gambled on signing him two years ago – and let’s not forget the comments pages here were full of angst, as a regional Guardian journalist expressed astonishment that we’d gone for what he viewed as such a limited talent. We are in a place where we need to take a few chances. This one paid off.

I fully expect Scott Brown will sign one more Celtic contract to see him through his mid-30s, when thoughts at the club will turn to succession.

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  1. AGain I am re posting MY post from the earlier thread and again I make NO apologises for doing so.

     

     

    BIG JIMMY on 14TH SEPTEMBER 2017 11:35 AM

     

    MOONBEAMSWD on 14TH SEPTEMBER 2017 9:54 AM

     

     

    ….

     

     

     

    In the process of defending what this Chump may lose because of HIS ACTIONS, you go on about the lack of stewardship etc.

     

     

     

    Can you please indicate in my earlier post where I defend the lack of stewardship and Policing ?

     

     

    The point that I was making was that Chump was NOT a “Boy” or a “Bhoy” as you put it MWD, and imo by deliberately using the term “Bhoy”, you were trying to be a bit wide, and you know it.

     

     

     

    This Chump aged TWENTY TWO is regarded by the whole of society as a MAN, whether some on here wish to state otherwise simply won’t wash.

     

     

    Around 1974 I was found Guilty in a Court of Law….in a football related incident and fined at the age of NINETEEN (19)…I wasn’t viewed as a “Boy/Bhoy” back then…I was found guilty in a Court for Grown Ups.

     

     

     

    MWD…I will ask you the same question that I posed earlier, if this 22 year old Chump was to attack you or family, or steal from your house ( where he shouldn’t be like on the pitch at CP), and the Police or Court decided to send him to a Childrens Panel or Juvenile Court to be judged….would you be okay with that ?

     

     

     

    One last matter here……NONE of know what punishment Celtic will receive for this latest incident…do you think UEFA will listen to Celtics defense if Celtic say ” Although he is aged 22, he is still a Boy/Bhoy”, and UEFA take his age into consideration ?

     

     

    What if UEFA decide to close part of Celtic Park over this and our so called previous….and the area that is closed is where you sit or stand ……your “defence” of this complete Chump may alter I suspect ?

     

     

     

    HH

  2. Big Jimmy

     

     

    Firstly, no where did or am I defending the Bhoy’s/lads actions.

     

     

    Secondly, I term him a bhoy in reference to him being a Celtic fan and a lad in reference to his young age in comparison to myself whether or not legally he is a bhoy or a man.

     

     

    Thirdly, he is rightly being punished for his stupidity and actions by due legal process. This will likely see further consequences with him losing his job. It will bring embarrassment to him and his family. As well as being banned from attending a football match for the foreseeable he will potentially receive a life ban from the club.

     

     

    Lastly and this is also aimed at Bawsman, comparing his stupidity to House breaking, drink driving etc is silly. His stupid drunken action is not comparable. And to deny there were failures in stewarding and policing is also silly. There were failures. They were in attendance but undortunately in that corner they were focussed on the GB. They failed in their duties which the Police and the security firms are handsomely paid for by the club. If you pay for their services then they should be performing that service to the contracted agreements.

     

     

    Away to read article now.

     

     

    MWD

  3. DBHOY on 14TH SEPTEMBER 2017 1:16 PM

     

    Why don’t you pay any fine that the Chump invader may get ?

     

    Why don’t you offer to his jail time for him if he gets jailed for attempted assault ?

     

     

    trying to offer up “Balance” ?…..gies a break ffs.

     

     

    This Chump Invader SHOULD be paying the £400 imposed on the Celtic hero from St Albans who feckin slapped him.

     

     

     

    What if the REAL Celtic fan from St Albans…..loses HIS feckin job because of his conviction ?

     

     

    Will you and others be happy then ?

     

    Aye…probably.

     

    HH

  4. MOONBEAMSWD on 14TH SEPTEMBER 2017 1:22 PM

     

     

     

    it does NOT matter that you ( or others) view the Chump Invader as being a only ” Boy/Bhoy/Lad”….Society and the Law do NOT take that view…he is 22.

     

     

    when the Hun Chump pitch invader at Ibrox tried to assault Scott Brown did you ( and others) on here EVER show concern as to what age that Hun Chump was ?

     

     

    No…didnt think so.

  5. Hello lads,

     

     

    Mike in Belfast here. (The poster formerly known as MiT … next step is to just use a symbol, like the artist formerly known as a Prince .. although he had a cool symbol… my keyboard is a bit limited … the most exotic symbol is for yens … not sure that has the same vibe)

     

     

    Loving my time in Ireland so far!!!! honestly, it has been even better than I had hoped. Too many highlights to list them all, but meeting some of the lads from CQN is right up there. hope to catch up with more of you.

     

     

    Reading back, I liked MWD’s suggestion about getting the fella that ran onto the pitch involved with the club somehow. ( I see a lot of jail house religion, , so I can be sceptical… but his remorse seemed genuine to me). so, rather than, for example, barring him from the club, and everyone loses, let him use his experiences to help somehow, and maybe the next guy who would have done the same thing, will think twice before doing it …

  6. Big Jimmy

     

    Paying his fine, why would I do that?

     

    I don’t and haven’t said I agree with what the guy did.

     

     

    Apparently he was remorseful regarding the other fan ( Lavelle I think ) and his fine.

     

     

    I would never be gleeful about another man losing his job, it’s not in my nature

  7. If some on here are determined to show concern what happens next to the Chump invader from Tuesday night…losing his job etc etc. just because he was wearing Celtic colours….How much concern and sympathy will you ( and others) have for ANY REAL and INNOCENT Celtic fans who may lose their seats if UEFA shut down part of Celtic Park because of that feckin Chump invader ?

  8. I thought I’d added.

     

     

    Next lastly :-)

     

     

    If the lads action has consequences that see me missing out on attending a future game due to a section of ground or whole ground being closed I will be unhappy and angry. I will not however castigate a young man further for one stupid drunken action that will have been or be in the process of being dealt with by legal due process and by the club.

     

     

    My unhappiness and anger will be aimed not only at the bhoy but upside UEFA for their stupidity and over zealous punishment if that is what they hand down. I see a lot worse every other week from fans in European football compared to what Celtic supporters have done in the last couple of years and on this occasion by the stupid drunken action of this young bhoy.

     

     

    MWD

  9. BIG JIMMY…

     

    What the young man did was wrong,stupid,impulsive and counter productive,He was well out of order,acted like an idiot and should be made to realise how immature and pathetic his actions were.But he didn’t break into anyone’s house or kill his kids (FFS that’s some leap to that comparison).He has been dealt with and has to live with the consequences of his actions for the rest of his day,he can’t escape his conscience.

     

    If he learns from this and uses it to better his future behaviour that’s beneficial to everyone.That seems like a better option than castigation.

     

    And I believe the compassion and forgiveness espoused by Jesus is a lot more constructive than the Old Testament violence and vengeance infused eye for an eye instruction.Which,after all,only leaves the whole World blind.

  10. DBHOY on 14TH SEPTEMBER 2017 1:31 PM

     

    Big Jimmy

     

     

    Paying his fine, why would I do that?

     

     

    I don’t and haven’t said I agree with what the guy did.

     

     

     

    Apparently he was remorseful regarding the other fan ( Lavelle I think ) and his fine.

     

     

     

    I would never be gleeful about another man losing his job, it’s not in my nature

     

    …………………..

     

     

    Again please show me ANY of my posts where I stated that I HOPED he would lose his job ?

     

     

    In the eyes of THE LAW….He is a MAN….NOT A “BOY/BHOY OR LAD”.

     

     

    As for the Hun Chump invader….I would be DELIGHTED if he had lost his job after trying to attack Scott Brown…but you wouldn’t ?

  11. Big Jimmy

     

     

    Were in my post/s did I show concern for the Bhoys possible punishment?

     

     

    You are misreading my post/s and making your own conclusions based on you anger at the lads actions.

     

     

    Pointing out what punishment and associated consequences to the Bhoys life is not showing concern for him. It is stressing that the punishment and associated consequences are being dealt with.

     

     

    But some like you wish to see further punishment and consequences be placed on the bhoy for what is and was a low level crime.

     

     

    MWD

  12. BABASONICOS71 on 14TH SEPTEMBER 2017 1:33 PM

     

    BIG JIMMY…

     

     

    What the young man did was wrong,stupid,impulsive and counter productive,He was well out of order,acted like an idiot and should be made to realise how immature and pathetic his actions were.But he didn’t break into anyone’s house or kill his kids (FFS that’s some leap to that comparison).He has been dealt with and has to live with the consequences of his actions for the rest of his day,he can’t escape his conscience.

     

     

    If he learns from this and uses it to better his future behaviour that’s beneficial to everyone.That seems like a better option than castigation.

     

     

    And I believe the compassion and forgiveness espoused by Jesus is a lot more constructive than the Old Testament violence and vengeance infused eye for an eye instruction.Which,after all,only leaves the whole World blind.

     

    ……………………..

     

     

    I must be a ” BLIND as a Bat Chump” for many years.

     

    You hurt me and/or my family/ mates…then be prepared for the consequences….simples

  13. Where. Not were.

     

     

    Ibones are really annoying sometimes. I think I’ll punish mine by standing on it, then put it in my filled sink before drying it out in an oven for its predictive text actions. :-)

     

     

    MWD

  14. Off topic.Long post but good reading,very emotive,honest and chilling at times.And with special interest to us Clydesise dwellers.

     

     

    Down to the river of death

     

     

    September 13, 2017 by Darren McGarvey 

     

     

    Someone I knew recently flung himself in the River Clyde. He wasn’t a close friend, but he was close enough that I’ve spent a great many hours thinking about him.

     

     

    I’ve been especially preoccupied by what must have been going on in his tortured mind during those final hours and moments, as he wrestled with the most profound question a human being could ever ask themselves: Can I go on living, today?

     

     

    His name was Calum Barnes. He was only 21-years-old.

     

     

    Of all the means a Glaswegian could choose, the River Clyde seems the least enticing option where suicide is concerned. Then again, for anyone who has given it serious consideration – and I have – you’ll be aware, upon deeper reflection, that there are no ‘easy’ options when it comes to self-termination. What sets the river apart from many of the other death-inducing methods is that rivers are where people tend to go when they don’t want to be saved.

     

     

    Throwing yourself in a river is more than a cry for help; it’s an insurance policy, taken out against your own survival. When someone decides to do it, we can say with reliability that at the precise moment they jump, they absolutely intend to perish. This is why the thought of it alone is so chilling for most people. There’s an irrevocable permanence, perhaps matched only by a bullet to the head, that causes us to shudder if we dwell on the thought for too long. We wonder, with morbid curiosity, how awful must that person have felt in the second prior to making good on their desire to die? Yet, this unconscionably bleak method of self-destruction remains a popular one.

     

     

    The Clyde, the Clyde…

     

     

    The River Clyde, once the British Empire’s most important industrial artery, is where many desperate people, looking for a solution to the problem of living, will choose to live out their final moments.

     

     

    Crossing the Clyde has always been an uneasy experience for me, as I’m sure it is for many others. I feel especially vulnerable when making the cross on foot; fearing that I may be picked up by a freak gust of wind and thrown across the barrier.

     

     

    Many times, I’ve stood on the south bank and peered into the black water, bottle in-hand, headphones on, pondering whether the cold water would kill me or if I’d live long enough to drown with dignity. On less morbid occasions, I’ve even thrown entire carry-outs into the Clyde to stop myself from finishing them, so powerless I was over alcohol near the end. When I stood on the steps of the Sherriff Court, having spent a night and day in the cells following a relapse, the river was the only thing waiting to greet me on the cold, wet January night upon my release. Trembling, confused and alone, the last traces of alcohol and Valium leaving my system to make room for the inevitable dread and regret, it wasn’t hard to understand why so many come to regard the Clyde as an unlikely sanctuary from the unforgiving clamour of life.

     

     

    I hate looking at the river because it reflects something terrifying back at me. Something I am not ready to see. Something primal that I like to think I’ve skilfully concealed beneath a veil of social sophistication. Somewhere, in a dark corner of my heart, there’s a sad, lonely frightened man who longs for the peaceful sleep only a river-bed can fortify.

     

     

    The things we can’t bear to look at are often what we ought to be paying more attention to.

     

     

    Urban bile

     

     

    Like the unsightly scars that adorn many-a-fizzer in the Dear Green Place, as well as the city’s other cultural cornerstones of football sectarianism, gratuitous daily violence and the endemic alcoholism that underscores so much of it, the River Clyde is an unsightly wound we Glaswegians have been forced to take pride in. Unlike everything else in this incinerable urban expanse, the Clyde can’t be retrofitted with a fashionable prefix, a trend-ridden frontage or a cynically falsified ‘legacy’ to paper over the telling cracks of municipal ineptitude.

     

     

    This greyish, brown torrent of urban bile cannot be touched up by a lick of cheap paint. The Clyde is the river we Glaswegians deserve; the reality we must all confront when we stare this self-regarding shite-hole of a city in the face.

     

     

    This deep, dark watery grave is the only symbol of the city’s sharp industrial decline that we can’t privatise, close down or demolish. It’s the only thing we can’t wash our hands of or blame on the Tories.

     

     

    Our best suggestion to the question of what to do with the river has thus far been to line it with aspirational professionals – the only people who can secure anything but precarious, poorly paid employment. On the riverside they live, in gated communities, travelling to and from work without ever having to interface with the city the rest of us live in, as the rest of us experience it. A New Glasgow has been curated especially for them, in which the river is not a symbol of urban degeneration, but one of prestige and social status. In the absence of unaffordable private housing, where potentially lucrative derelict spaces need to be filled, we simply vomit up the same predictable constellation of 24-hour casinos, clothing retailers and American diners that have drained the economic and cultural lifeblood from our communities.

     

     

    Life and death

     

     

    Fifty years ago, young men of Calum’s age could walk into a job for life on either bank of the Clyde. Now, the best many can hope for is a zero-hours contract working in the same pub, club or multi-national chain where they spend most of their wages.

     

     

    Why do we feign so much shock and concern when young men with the foresight Calum Barnes had, take one glance into their probable future and decide that oblivion or death are preferable? What does it mean to ‘man-up’ when the social mechanisms through which masculinity was traditionally expressed, are so evidently diminished?

     

     

    Masculinity is about more than simply ‘talking about your feelings’. It is a dying emotional language and one that many men will never learn, because we’ve forgotten how to teach it. Much like our increasingly secular society appears at moral odds with itself since the decline of religious surety, men everywhere are in the grip of an identity crisis, triggered by the collapse of industry and, to some extent, the traditional family, from which they previously derived a sense of connection, worth and usefulness.

     

     

    Nobody wants a return to 20th century machismo, where ‘big boys don’t cry’, women are subject to their dominance and emotionality is regarded as a female trait and thus, a weakness. As a man, I know only too well how destructive and toxic those facets of masculinity can be.  In many ways, the decline in male dominance is good news, but for many young men, just trying to find their place in a world where masculinity is in flux, this massive social shift can feel less like progress and more like a form of punishment, bordering humiliation.

     

     

    Youthful collateral damage

     

     

    With so many conflicting messages about what being a man entails, young men with emotional and mental difficulties, overwhelmed by the sheer scale of complexity in their midst, are becoming collateral damage in a war to reassign masculinity in a postmodern world.

     

     

    And what hope is there of repairing this malfunctioning masculinity, or evolving it, when the topic itself has become a political football, where misspeaking, failure to use the approved language or disputing the precepts of the discussion can leave genuine attempts at dialogue not only derailed but also reframed as sinister and dangerous. Even just organising a men’s group can now be construed as a threat against women and minorities in some sections of society. How do we negotiate these difficult fault-lines to promote a positive vision of masculinity in the 21stcentury without arousing suspicion or anxiety in others, who’ve only just acquired many of the rights and privileges afforded to males for decades?

     

     

    Equally, how do we stand our ground when masculinity comes under attack unfairly or if discussion of the issues we face is impeded by disinformation or politicking?

     

     

    We often forego the opportunity to bring emotional intelligence to bear, favouring instead a battering-ram approach which relies primarily on fear, shame and outrage as a means of exacting social change. But for those men not up on the social justice theory and terminology, this often registers only as a resounding rejection of their thoughts, a dismissal of their pain and a condemnation of their lived-experience. How can we talk about the problems men face without appearing aloof to those of women and minorities? And how do we take better care to make distinctions between powerful privileged males with real agency, and young boys like Calum Barnes, vanishing beneath the waves?

     

     

    No way out

     

     

    Either way, I’m not looking for scapegoats or pantomime villains. The truth is, I look at this world and I just blame myself – as a stupid, futureless and utterly useless man. There is no longer any place for me here, or that’s how it feels. Every time I say I’m struggling, it’s implied that I can’t be, because I am a man. To speak publicly about my struggles is to invite outrage, scorn and ridicule, not just from other men, but from people who claim to be interested in social justice.

     

     

    Being told I am privileged, as I suffer in silence, is like being accused of a crime I know I did not commit, by a kangaroo court who believe every lived experience is sacred – but mine.

     

     

    You know, the more I think about it all, the more impossibly complicated it all seems. The more depressed and hopeless I feel. The more allure the Clyde seems to hold. When compared to the intractable disagreement about masculinity in the 21st century, that freezing, black water doesn’t seem so frightening. Maybe I’m terrified to look at it for too long because I’m petrified, as a working-class man in a postmodern world, that the bottom of the river is where I really belong.

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

  15. That disappointing moment, when you switch over for the BBC Weather, and it’s Christopher Blanchett and not Judith….

  16. MOONBEAMSWD on 14TH SEPTEMBER 2017 1:38 PM

     

     

    MWD….why would you or anyone else still view this Chump Invader as a “Bhoy” ?

     

     

    He is not in my eyes..he has disgraced MY Club and fellow Celtic fans.

     

    He has disassociated himself from the Celtic family imo…and the Celtic family should shun this Chump forever.

     

    I did NOT state anywhere that he should be Hanged or otherwise so lets make that clear.

     

     

    I for one do not want this Chump Invader or any other potential Chump invader anywhere near Celtic Park or where ever we play, are you ( and others) on here happy to take the chance IF this latest Chump re offends during a Celtic match ?

     

    I’m not.

  17. MOONBEAMSWD on 14TH SEPTEMBER 2017 1:41 PM

     

    Big Jimmy

     

     

     

    How has the bhoy hurt you, your friends or family and/or anyone else for that matter?

     

     

     

    MWD

     

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    This MAN Chump invader and assailant ( which he admitted to in Court yesterday) has hurt my family…The Celtic Family…..its that feckin simple.

  18. GlassTwoThirdsFull on

    Don’t know too much about how Anderlecht play, but it will be a very different game from PSG.

     

    We will certainly have more of the ball than we did on Tuesday which will help.

  19. BIG JIMMY…

     

    What would you do if one of your family/friends hurt another of your family/friends?

  20. I rest my case M’Lud.

     

     

    hope I am wrong but what would you all that are defending the Chump Invader on here think of him and HIS actions should Celtic Park be closed by UEFA /

     

    Doesn’t the FACT that this Chump has provided the smsm and ALL who hate Celtic with more ammo not bother you in the slightest ?

  21. Question for any lurking Scottish Legal Eagles –

     

     

    What if the 18 year old from the Bondy banlieu had decided that his safety was at risk and took some reasonable defensive action -?

     

     

    Does Scottish Law make any allowance for voluntary intoxification ?

  22. BABASONICOS71 on 14th September 2017 1:41 pm

     

    Thank you for posting that.

     

    I lost a good friend to the Clyde a few years back a young man that could light up a room when he entered it but the darkness of depression took him.

  23. BABASONICOS71 on 14TH SEPTEMBER 2017 1:51 PM

     

    BIG JIMMY…

     

     

    What would you do if one of your family/friends hurt another of your family/friends?

     

    …………….

     

     

    If it was a MAN…batter him and then disown him

     

    If it was a woman…disown her.

     

    Simples.

     

     

    I have had a family member cause me and others severe damage like you could NEVER feckin imagine….don’t go down that road with me please.

  24. Ronnie Esplin‏ @RonnieEsplin 3m

     

    3 minutes ago

     

     

     

    More

     

    Brendan Rodgers confirm Moussa Dembele is back in @celticfc squad for Ross County game. Dedryck Boyata will be assessed.

  25. BIG JIMMY…

     

    Sorry if any personal hurt caused by my post,that was not my intention.

     

    Apologies.

  26. The numpty who run on the pitch. As far as his punishment from the club, it should be a life ban. As for the courts punishment, that’s up to them.

  27. LEFTCLICKTIC…

     

    I know a boy who went into the Clyde never to return,great guy as well.I also have very personal experience of depression and the damage it inflicts.

     

    That piece was very well written in getting the hopelessness of the sufferer over.Hooefully it’ll help those inflicted in some way.

     

     

    HH

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