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Justification by Statement, brain injury, Jinky

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Scottish clubs, including (original) Rangers, opposed the imposition of Strict Liability on clubs for offenses by their fans as long as the club concerned had undertaken all reasonable precautions to discourage and prevent those offenses.

In other words, if a club warn fans what is unacceptable behaviour, and confirm they will be banned from your stadium if they indulge, the club will not incur any punishment. As we know, it’s different in European competition, where clubs are held responsible for fans’ transgressions.

This is all fine and well, but it’s a moot debate after the Scottish Cup Final riot. Hibs and (Newco) Rangers may well have taken all reasonable precautions ahead of the game, but that changed for Newco immediately thereafter.

The statement defending the Newco fans taking the law into their own hands on the Hampden pitch that day is the opposite of undertaking all reasonable precautions. In fact, it was incendiary. I have little doubt it contributed to the actions of Newco fans in the first few months of this season, who appear to wandering around Premiership grounds ready to settle perceived scores.

Justification by Statement has continued. It’s now a pattern. The question for the SFA disciplinary panel, is whether they condone clubs encouraging fans taking the law into their own hands, as consistent with reasonable precautions, when deciding on actions by visiting fans at Celtic Park and Pittodrie.

It’s not. In fact, it’s dangerous and will lead to increasingly alarming situations until those setting the fires are brought to account. What happened at Celtic Park and Pittodrie was bad enough but far more serious consequences could lie ahead if this clarion call for Direct Action isn’t faced.

The players will still be buzzing from Wednesday night when they take to the field at Dens tomorrow lunchtime. We could blow Dundee away in a wave of effervescent football, or we could struggle to get heads out of the clouds. We’ve witnessed both scenarios before.

Jimmy Johnstone

You’re in for a treat tonight, the Jimmy Johnstone documentary is on BBC Alba at 9:30, on what would have been his 72nd birthday. It’s a brilliant journey into the life and family of an extraordinary-ordinary person. I thought I’d known all there was to know about the Jinky story, but I didn’t realise he was decades ahead of the game in terms of fitness and training techniques.

Brain injury

We have a special article out today, written by SunnyJim, on brain injury in the game (and a whole lot more). We re-examine a blow to the head taken early in the 6-2 game by Fernando Ricksen, who like Jinky, was struck by Motor Neurone Disease.

The game has a responsibility to its players, which means we all need to become educated in some of the risks.  Read the article, you’ll learn something significant about an incident you are very familiar with.

The Celtic Foundation has had a great boost already from all those who are doing the Great Scottish Run on Sunday on its behalf. Dozens of Celtic fans have been sponsored by hundreds of fans, raising thousands of pounds.

This will be the last you hear from me on the subject before the off; if you can help, here’s the place.

Thank you, and thanks to everyone who has already contributed.

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  1. BOBBY MURDOCH'S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS on

    VFR800A8

     

     

    Strange. Thought I’d replied earlier,mate. Done now,see you tomorrow,wi luck.

     

     

    HH

  2. ExSlaemuirBhoy on

    MACJAY1 FOR NEIL LENNON on 30TH SEPTEMBER 2016 9:03 PM

     

    NEGANON2 on 30TH SEPTEMBER 2016 8:21 PM

     

     

    An tearmann. The Catholic Church did next to nothing politically through all the years of racism I lived through. It was too busy trying to protect its own position to care too much about its “flock”.

     

     

     

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    Substitute ” The Labour Party ” for ” The Catholic Church ” and you have a point.

     

     

     

    Viva la Quinta Brigada.

  4. Jobo Baldie on

    Roy –

     

     

    you do know that you’ll have the place to yourself from half 9 till 11?

     

     

    jimmyjohnstonefilmonAlbaCSC

  5. BOBBY MURDOCH'S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS on

    ALMORE

     

     

    I will look out for them,and make sure they are well looked after.

     

     

    I’ll contact GORDYBHOY re the tickets,pretty sure no problem getting them to him.

     

     

    HH. Forge my signature on yer cafe petition!

  10. macjay1 for Neil Lennon on

    EXSLAEMUIRBHOY on 30TH SEPTEMBER 2016 9:20 PM

     

    MACJAY1 FOR NEIL LENNON on 30TH SEPTEMBER 2016 9:03 PM

     

     

    NEGANON2 on 30TH SEPTEMBER 2016 8:21 PM

     

     

     

    An tearmann. The Catholic Church did next to nothing politically through all the years of racism I lived through. It was too busy trying to protect its own position to care too much about its “flock”.

     

     

     

     

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    Substitute ” The Labour Party ” for ” The Catholic Church ” and you have a point.

     

     

     

     

    Viva la Quinta Brigada.

     

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    Whose inspiration , Stalin , did a deal with Hitler to bisect Poland.

  20. Gerryfaethebrig on

    Jobo 9.21pm

     

     

    Thank you……watching the Friday night family Googlebox, when I saw your post, cheers, Jimmy Johnstone programme now recorded to view at my leisure

  23. Almore on

    Jobo: I’m like a dog with a bone:-) Heavy showers here in Dublin tonight but should improve tomorrow. Your reports are way too early for me.

     

     

    Some big sporting events this weekend with Celtic’s visit to Dundee topping the ‘must watch list’. Next one for me is heading to Croke Park to watch the All Ireland football final replay between Áth Cliath (Dublin) and Muigh Eo (Mayo). Up the Dubs! Pre- and post match drinks will be in the GAA fans’ café.

     

     

    The AFL (Aussie Rules) major final is on this weekend, I think, in Melbourne where Celtic should have a shop for the Aussie Tims. And then there’s the Ryder Cup. WITS will be on in a couple of minutes to tell us about the big horse racing events.

  31. NegAnon2 on

    An tearmann I am fine. As ever I don’t mind you disagree. I am not attempting to convert anyone.

     

     

    Vfr. Back into hiding. What do you offer? Cowardice?

     

     

    Macay1 perhaps. But at least they didn’t try and criminalise us. Unlike the snp

  36. Almore on

    BMCUWP: Thanks a million. Delaney’s Dunky knows GB so if he’s in he might get them to him. The folk don’t know Glasgow too well and they are first time season ticket holders so a cèud mìle fàilte would be great.

  38. macjay1 for Neil Lennon on

    NEGANON2 on 30TH SEPTEMBER 2016 9:38 PM

     

     

     

    Macay1 perhaps. But at least they didn’t try and criminalise us. Unlike the snp

     

     

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    I`m glad we agree ,perhaps , about the basic point.

     

     

    Can`t really comment about the SNP , although they really seem to be amateurs at govt. who are suddenly thrust into power and can`t believe their good luck . The FAC is surely carte blanche for any policeman to allege anything about anybody.

     

    Home thoughts from abroad.

  40. jmccormick on

    In deference to the Jinks comments earlier. I had a football coach , now deceased, who was a an old school Proddy.

     

    A good football man who liked my style and two or three others of the Catholic persuasion and he built a good team around us, he had a few old school Proddy boys in the mix also.

     

    Anyway, he played for a few senior teams , late 60 early 70 times and was playing “left half” for Falkirk reserves against Celtic. The bold Jinky was playing to get match fit after a suspension, our man tells me that himself and the left back tried all night to kick him, and tried all night to get hear him….never laid a finger on him all night.

     

    Quite simply the best player he had ever seen on a park, and that came from a true blue.

  41. Gerryfaethebrig on

    Neg2 9.38pm

     

     

    What do you think of 11 of the 14 players that were with us last season, performances’s on Wednesday night ?

     

     

    Just asking like :-)

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