Roy Keane’s “Celtic wanted me but they weren’t showing how much they wanted me” comment in his second autobiography about being courted to replace Neil Lennon as our manager in the summer is no doubt accurate on one level, but inaccurate on another. Some within Celtic certainly wanted him, but I’m sure the reticence he picked up (and was shared by many of us on the blog at the time) was also very real. Celtic wanted him, but their approach showed him how unconvinced they were.
Keane’s managerial CV is at best considered patchy and his reputation has sold more autobiographies of former team-mates and managers than the two volumes he has now published. Few were convinced he was the right manager for the job, although I’ve no doubt Keane’s claim that Dermot Desmond wanted him, and told him “The job is yours” is accurate, whether anyone else at Celtic was in on the plan or not.
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Leaving aside the managerial candidates, the recruitment process appears flawed.
One senior exec off offering jobs that others disagree with it may be iffer
timgreen
12:47 on
7 October, 2014
I’m assuming “Didn’t want me enough” translates as “Didn’t offer enough”. This man should never be considered as suitable for any role at Celtic. Anyone who goes on to a park with the intention of maiming someone, gloats over his victim as he writhes on the ground, uses this crime as a core element in the marketing of his autobiography and then defiantly refuses to apologise or recognise how barbaric his behaviour and attitudes are should have no place anywhere in football. If that isn’t serially bringing the game into disrepute then waht is.
Can anyone say that this thug is “Celtic-minded” in any real sense? Why was he ever considered?
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A coward’s challenge. and we (rightly) complain about elbows’ challenge on kayal or the (similar) tackle that ended John Kennedy’s career…….
Hear Hear and Hail Hail from me.
jamesgang
What is it with people, they whinge when they are never told the truth, then they slaughter the messenger for telling the truth. They slaughter him because his truth is not to their palate.
I would have taken Roy Keane before Ronny. I said it before Ronny got the nod too. I’d take Roy Keane tomorrow if he would come. I believe if we had taken Roy Keane, let him chose his own assistant, and given him a few bob to spend in the market, we’d still be in the big boys cup and we would most definitely not be being scorned in sixth place of a so called ‘one horse race’. And no we don’t have a divine right to win every game but neither do we have a devine right to watch a once great club be smeared in mediocrity week after week.
And for what? For what?
Some people really do need to take a right good look at themselves. There are none so blind….
Dermot Desmond is better qualified to pick the Ryder cup team than to pick a Celtic manager as he shows more interest in the ol’ gowf than he does in Celtic.
Oops, continued from last post that went by mistake:
The recruitment process is flawed. Why is one senior senior exec offering jobs others disagree with?
Indeed, over the last 25 years. With the exception of O’Neill & Strachan, virtually every other managerial appointment at Celtic has been “taking a punt” on inexperienced, unproven or unsuitable individuals.
It’s a ridiculous state of affairs for a club of the stature we claim to be.
The overall package maybe doesn’t just include Keanes wage, it could be playing budget control of signings etc..He went back and spoke to MON who left because of the downsizing..imo
I don’t think Keane was the man but fear it shows the ever decreasing ambition we have at boardlevel..
Anyone else believe that Keane should just have kept his mouth shut, and not undermine the job any more than it is at the minute?
…I mean if he cared about anyone or anything else other than Roy Keane….if he gave a single solitary f**k.
B
when i think back i said i didnae want keane as manager
didnt think he was good enough
which he isnt
but he is a damn site better manager than deila
who in my opinion
is out of his depth and should be replaced
the question is
with rapidly falling attendances
and lack of signings
selling our best players
the board need to show ambition
and appoint a quality manager
and buy some quality players
and stop telling us its awe sevcos fault
who should be the next celtic manager
#scrapingthebottomofthebarrelwithdeila
Bognorbhoy
I think Mr. Craig may have taught school for a while also
HH
gsu
Would Roy Keane have us 6th in the SPFL after 10 games? I think not.
I am more than willing to give Deila a chance but I still have no idea what he is trying to do. I think his stance on banning chips and fizzy drinks is admirable and will have long term benefits but my immediate concern are tactics, team selection and substitutes. Even after all this time it seems as if Ronny doesn’t know his best XI and seems unable to positively change a game with either tactical changes or substitutions. His wingers aren’t working and too much emphasis is still placed on our full backs to create chances which is all the more apparent at the moment with the amount of the ball Efe Ambrose is getting. Our centre midfield is over-worked and all over the place chasing and closing the ball down often against an extra man leaving us wide open to counter attacks. Also for some inexplicable reason Anthony Stokes is virtually ever present despite being incapable of scoring goals with any regularity, its all very well having the odd assist and one good game in a dozen as against Hearts but he is simply not good enough.
kitalba
Roy Keane – don’t like him as a person.
That you could say is irrelevant…..and you’d be right.
Roy Keane – don’t rate him as a manager in terms of ROI (return on investment not Republic of Ireland!) re playing budget versus results in England. And definitely wouldn’t see him having the skill set and persona/expectations required to function within Celtic’s present financial outlook (both internal and SPL).
Those things are, I would say, highly relevant…..
HH jamesgang
I had a huge amount of respect for Roy Keane’s playing ability, but not so much for his everything-else ability and judgement.
Roy’s an old-school alpha male, a supercondensed ball of thunder, fury and Hai Karate aftershave. You could imagine him being the baddest, most successful wooly mammoth hunter in northern Europe if he had been born during the last ice age. Or leading a fearsome corrughadh of gallowglasses into battle in the middle ages.
He has enough testosterone in his left pinkie to fuel an entire East German women’s shot put team.
Unfortunately this means he’s also a human volcano of rage, liable to erupt whenever the restless tectonic plates of his personality experience the slightest friction.
The Saipan incident should have put paid to any notions of Roy’s suitability for a management role. In any industry other than football, it would have.
Also, what is his pathological obsession with talking to journalists? Surely his ego doesn’t need any more stroking. If you told Roy where a bird’s nest was, he’d include that information in his next tell-all autobiography.
Whatever happened to discretion? (thumbsup)
timgreen
12:47 on 7 October, 2014
“Why was he ever considered?”
The club are losing the irish support, the number of travelling fans is dropping. Late notice on rescheduled fixtures, midweek and Sunday fixtures and a FOCUS on cultural expression may all be contributory factors to this.
Perhaps Roy Keane represented a chance to reconnect with some of the Irish fan base.
Only speculating.
cv
Guernica……………….What makes you think Robertson is on 40k a week at Hull ????!!!!!……..way way of the mark …..
Do you think everyone in the EPL is on these wages ??………cos we just got one on lone ……Tonev from villa………we are paying his wages in full !!!!…
It was well publicised what it is !!…
Gordon_J backing Neil Lennon 12:34 on 7 October, 2014
So Roy Keane turned the job down because he didn’t feel wanted enough? Hope the folk in charge remember this next time there is a managerial vcaancy.
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Or at least if they are offering the job to someone with as big an ego as Roy…..
So it looks like Neil Lennon has finally seen the writing on the wall and is close to taking a job in the footballing backwater that is Saudi Arabia.
There is a very good reason why Lennon will never be offered a job in the EPL. I’m sure the riches he will now be offered will soften the blow of the penny finally dropping on his head.
Maybe now he can concentrate on the job in hand instead of trying to undermine the Celtic manager.
Never a single word about what Fat Sally said to him at the end of the “shame game” but as soon as a SMSM man asks him to stab Ronny Deila in the back and it’s hard to shut him up.
His new job should keep him out of the picture for a while. Here’s hoping.
BT@12.56
Agree.
100%
Get (even!) better soon!
BarryBhoy
Mibbee RD should take one of the banned scary (and I agree too!) cans of fizzy juice and stick it in midfield to fill the big gaping hole that so often emerges there?
a 2L bottle of Coke might do a job!
HH jamesgang
proudbhoy
Thompson got pushed out the door, by his own wrong doings off the field.
jamesgang:
I say having a Celtic team take to the field that can make a fist of it week after week is very relavant too. If I want to watch headless chickens I’ll go down to the abatoir.
philvis, Absolutely loved your post, not sure if I was meant to laugh but I did, uproariously.
What do those who are forever saying DD is a disaster for Celtic saying about his offering the managerial job to Keane? Now that really would be a disastrous appointment, imo.
Let’s support our manager and the team. I have been watching some of the EPL. Most teams are trying to ply the “pass and move” game so necessary for success in that league and in Europe. If Hamilton can play it, why can’t our players? They need to be properly professional, which seems to be beyond them. If our former manager has been undermining our current one, I find that hard to take. Why?
Tom McLaughlin:
You always did hate Neil Lennon didn’t you Tom, or at least you always came across that way with your ‘bring me his head on a plate’ guff.
I agree with what Neil Lennon is saying, Bobby Murdoch, Jimmy Johnstone, Bertie Auld they and all their team-mates liked a pint and a pie supper. Didn’t exactly do that lot of chancers too much harm.
As I’m now minted
and it’s lunch-time…… the wuurld is my lobster
…..and I’m away to eat all of it.
I’mTheBigBoss CSC
Keane may well be a pathological madman, but he takes a great photy
http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/About/General/2009/7/8/1247053734945/Footballer-Roy-Kean-in-Ma-005.jpg
m6bhoy – aye, there’s trouble at t’mill.
Whether or not we dodged a bullet re Roy Keane is not relevant, its what we have now and where we are now is important. Almost everyone is saying the same thing, in pubs, on Social Media and on MSM. If you have 2 wingers one rightfooted and one left, play the rightfooted guy on the right and the leftie on the left. Don’t play 2 wingers & Kris on the same team. Put a third grafter into midfield. Play a settled formation and get people familiar with each other’s play. Ronny & John must be the only 2 in Scotland who disagree.
Keane would have been a million times better than Ronny Delusional
Sad what we have become
Don’t worry all is well,we have a young vibrant manager with revolutionary ideas about how fast attacking football should be played
Eh…
Ok
Greensideup-GBWO
cheers
67
For those that find it strange that Thompson left, I give you this Thompson run away to Newcastle cut Lennon was gonna choke him after he & allan Mcgreggor thought it funny to yell “where’s your gay boyfriend now” referring to the late pull mcbride – hence Lennon going to Newcastle to have it out with.
Through Lennon letter box in the early hours of the morning one night after a drunken binge….sorry
Who has been undermining who……..????………seems a bit tit for tat ……..but to be honest think it started with …..the fitness diet stuff as soon as Ronny came in………Think Lennon took umbrage to it …….after all he was going to be his second in command !!.
I honestly don’t think there is one Celtic fan who doesn’t want their team fitter or more professional….. it is quite basic…….but surely …the ultimate kick in the nuts is to say this team is unfit …..and eat and drink **it ……….maybe all that nonsense should have been kept in house !!!!
kitalba
13:01 on
7 October, 2014
jamesgang:
I say having a Celtic team take to the field that can make a fist of it week after week is very relavant too. If I want to watch headless chickens I’ll go down to the abatoir.
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good call. but then you’d miss the chance to have FOCUS take your picture on the way to the ground for looking a bit too Tim-ish.
word to the wise tho….stay away from Weefra’s chickens and their heads or you’ll find that there’s another form of kettling that involves boiling water!!!
;-)
Like you Mhate, I’m a bunny who isn’t full of happiness.
Mine is directed proportionately to those according to the power and influence they have at CFC.
Philbhoy
You made me laugh too. Me + Corkcelt. That’s good going….though we’re pretty easy going wee souls so not the toughest gig you’ll ever play at……
PS Keep quiet about the old Mammoth Hunting League…….I can see a new Platini Production before my very eyes complete with classical music and images of benign Gazprom engineers delivering power, warmth and happiness to families all over Europe.
(Sukhoi jets and Armoured Personal Carriers are also available to customers in some areas. Check with your local dissident ethnic Russian minority for full details.)
HH jamesgang
kitalba
13:05 on
I agree with what Neil Lennon is saying, Bobby Murdoch, Jimmy Johnstone, Bertie Auld they and all their team-mates liked a pint and a pie supper. Didn’t exactly do that lot of chancers too much harm.
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Maybe we’d have won the big cup on a more regular basis during that time if they’d looked after themselves.
Maybe we’d have seen these greats play at their peak for two or three years more if they’d looked after themselves.
Maybe JJ would have been proclaimed throughout the world as the Greatest Player Of All Time, above Pele, Maradona, et all if he had just looked after himself a little better.
We’ll never know, eh?
Football has moved on..it’s not the sixties…and they don’t do haggis suppers and a couple of pints before staggering to the bookies.
Players are expected to be super athletes and why not considering the money most are making.
The least we should be looking for is conditioning and fitness. In europe it’s accepted..for some reason in the uk fourball thinking has remained in the old days.
Nothing wrong with a change of thought, direction and how we want the game to be played. Get rid of the deadwood at the club…too many players not good enough collecting easy money..time to cut the squad down to size and bring in the people who can play…couple that with some of our youngsters….and we can progress.
Kitalba –
I criticise Neil Lennon so therefore, according to you, I hate him. Typical of you. Everything has to be black and white in your tiny little mind.
As for Roy Keane, he is the other side of the coin that is Graeme Souness. They could be clones.
bankiebhoy1
a take- away for your lunch
http://novikovrestaurant.co.uk/orders/
minted
Just to cheer myself up, I decided to check the bookies odds on the SPFL, coz I always go with the bookies in every situation. Hamilton 100/1 Celtic 1/16 favourites, 2nd favourite Aberdeen at 14/1. That will do for me as far as League is concerned now for a couple of those pesky Cups.