Kettling, lazy policing and fan danger

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Kettling, def., the confinement by police of a group of demonstrators or protesters in a small area, as a method of crowd control.  The kettling of football fans now appears to be a standard part of police armoury, in Glasgow as well as in Paris.  As a fan, it feels that police don’t like fans congregating, or even queueing, outside a ground, they would prefer to ‘kettle’ them in a claustrophobic area, where a small number of officers and horses can establish authority over the crowd.

When kettled, you are immediately aware of the danger.  A crowd is a dynamic entity.  Crushing is not inevitable, but everyone is vulnerable to a few bad actors.  Decision making police always seem to be far away from the kettle.  Policies were laid down, probably days earlier, the officers, vehicles and horses involved in the enforcement are, at best, several minutes away from an authorised action to de-escalate an incident.

What happened at the Champions League final, hours before kick-off, a kilometre from the stadium, was lazy and dangerous policing.  French politicians and Uefa officials immediately blamed fans, that hoary old habit.  Fans – people – deserve better.

The police actions in Paris on Saturday evening did not happen spontaneously.  Rioting has been a growing problem in French football since the return of crowds, culminating in an out of control pitch invasion by Saint Etienne fans last night, after a penalty competition consigned them to Ligue 2 next season.  Police response to a legitimate issue, was to profile football fans prejudicial manner.

For decades across Europe, authoritites too lazy or understaffed to police properly, expose fans to danger and intimidation.

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  1. Mod

     

    I’d say better avoid a kebab altogether otherwise the spittoon will be working overtime.

  2. BELMONTBRIAN

     

     

    See you tomorrow pal!

     

     

    28th August last year seems a long time ago.

     

     

    HOOTS are great!

  3. TheLurkinTim on

    Am curious about what SFTB sees as the legitimacy of the argument that the powers that b are happy with, and even promote, a culture war as it means we’re all too busy being distracted from fighting a class war…which IMHO is way overdue

     

     

    GuillotineCSC

     

     

    H.H.

  4. Tom McLaughlin on

    Re the BBC vote for best ever team, each person is allowed 2 votes, so if you have voted once, go back and vote again.

     

     

    Currently in first place – Barcelona 28% with Celtic second on 25%.

  5. Tom

     

     

    Tried to vote a second time, however I was unable, stated that I had reached the maximum number of votes allowed.

     

     

    Any hints?

     

     

    Brian

  6. TheLurkinTim on

    Tam…at least ptovide the link? I voted earlier at 13% but always happy to help…again

     

     

    H.H.

  7. THELURKINTIM on 30TH MAY 2022 9:19 PM

     

    Brian…be good to meet up again tomoz ;-))

     

     

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    The feelings mutual my friend, a special group of friends.

     

    I hope you and your extended family are well.

     

     

    Brian

     

     

     

     

     

     

    H.H.

  8. Tom

     

     

    Maybe if I let BBC Scotland know that I ‘suffer’ asthma (thankfully not) that I maybe able to gain an advantage and be allowed to vote again :)

     

     

    Oh look, a shiny thing over there……….

     

     

    Brian

  9. Here’s the link for the vote:

     

     

    Vote: Who are the best club side of all time? Barcelona? Man Utd? Liverpool?

     

     

     

    If you use different devices.

     

     

    Just saying like.

  10. Copy link not working but if you go to the BBC website you will find the vote easily enough.

  11. Vote on every device you have, phone, laptop, tablet…..you get one vote per device.

  12. The Onlooker on

    Voted , although I’m not sure why.😀

     

     

    Do we get in to Pot 1 if we win the poll?

  13. SONSOFERIN on 30TH MAY 2022 10:02 PM

     

    Vote on every device you have, phone, laptop, tablet…..you get one vote per device.

     

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    Thanks worked a treat, gonnae get Mrs BB to do the same on her phone :)

     

     

    Again thanks

     

     

    Brian

  14. BELMONTBRIAN on 30TH MAY 2022 9:15 PM

     

    Tom

     

     

     

     

     

     

    Tried to vote a second time, however I was unable, stated that I had reached the maximum number of votes allowed.

     

     

     

     

     

     

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    Have you cleared your cookies?

  15. TheLurkinTim on

    Barcelona 27% Celtic 28%…so far…it’s the BBC…so I expect them to make up the final results

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