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King: if we lose the tax case then we probably gained some competitive advantage

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Newco chairman, Dave King, this evening issued a remarkable statement.  Not for the first time he referenced Celtic, but on this occasion, he became the first person inside the game to put the Stripping of Titles Rangers won during their EBT and DOS years on the table.

His statement also blankly contradicted an earlier statement he made, when he asserted, “I follow the logic of the argument that if we lose the tax case then we probably gained some competitive advantage.”

With the tax case lost, and many fair-minded agreeing with his earlier sentiment and calling for titles to be stripped, however, today King said:

“Whether the scheme was in place or not, or whether it survived tax scrutiny or not, made no difference whatsoever to the playing squad of the Club during that period and hence had no impact on the performance on the pitch.”

That’s:

“If we lose the tax case then we probably gained some competitive advantage.”
Followed by:

“Had no impact on the performance on the pitch.”

“Competitive advantage.”

“No impact on the performance.”

In 2012 he even issued an apology and suggested “commercial reparation to the other clubs” was in order.

“Reparation” because “if we lose the tax case” we “gained some competitive advantage”.

In five years he moved from saying Rangers gained a competitive advantage because of the illegal EBT use, and commercial reparations to other clubs was due, to denying any wrongdoing whatsoever.

He should also have read the Celtic statement more carefully.  King today said Celtic, “have attempted to influence the footballing authorities to alter its historic football honours”.

Celtic’s statement called merely for a review, “We are sure now that the footballing authorities in Scotland will wish to review this matter. Celtic awaits the outcome of their review.”

The altering of football honours issue was not put on the table by our club – you can thank Dave King for that thought provoking notion.

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  1. Canamalar it looks like OCD obsession on

    Congratulations to HT and the Minx on their nuptials.

     

     

    The Plc have enough evidence to force UEFA to intervene, if UEFA refuse there is. presedence for the Plc report it to the fraud squad free of sanction from UEFA.

  4. Sionnach Abu on

    CANAMALAR IT LOOKS LIKE OCD OBSESSION on 8TH JULY 2017 1:57 AM

     

    The Plc have enough evidence to force UEFA to intervene, if UEFA refuse there is. presedence for the Plc report it to the fraud squad free of sanction from UEFA.

     

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    If needs be it should go all the way to the Sport of Arbitration. We should demand no less.

  5. Sionnach Abu on

    MOONBEAMSWD on 8TH JULY 2017 2:07 AM

     

     

    Does the Sport of Arbitration need a precedence to rule?

  9. Moonbeamswd on

    SIANNOCHAC ABU

     

     

    Maybe you could answer your own Q. I don’t have a clue.

     

     

    I was asking Canamalar a Q based on his post.

     

     

    As for you calling others idiots because they have the iddacity to ask a Q or Q our club, because the ask something you do not agree with does not make them idiots. Just makes you l

  11. macjay1 for Neil Lennon on

    18:02Friday 07 July 2017

     

     

    Scotsman

     

     

    Rangers chairman Dave King has accused Celtic of trying to achieve victories off the pitch which their players could not manage on it as he claimed the oldco Ibrox club received no benefit from their discredited tax avoidance scheme. King, a former oldco Rangers director, argued the club would still have signed all the players that received Employee Benefit Trust payments even if they had not used the scheme for much of the first decade of this century. The claim was in direct contradiction to former chairman Sir David Murray’s recent assertion in court that EBTs “gave us an opportunity to get players that we perhaps would not be able to afford”. Calls for Rangers to be stripped of titles won during the EBT years have intensified after five Supreme Court judges unanimously ruled that Rangers should have paid tax on about £50 million in payments made to dozens of players and other staff. Celtic quickly stated that they expected the Scottish football authorities to review the case – a 2013 commission appointed by the Scottish Premier League and led by judge Lord Nimmo Smith ruled that Rangers received “no unfair competitive advantage” after failing to disclose “side letters” detailing the contentious payments, in breach of SPL rules. Sporting sanctions were ruled out but Rangers were fined £250,000 for the disclosure breaches. In a lengthy statement on the Rangers website, King said: “The Celtic board issued a statement agitating for a re-opening and reversal of the decisions previously made when, in fact, nothing has changed. “It is disappointing that they have attempted to influence the footballing authorities to alter its historic football honours by calling on administrators and lawyers to achieve off the pitch what its teams failed to do on the pitch. “As an investor and board member during the period of the so-called benefit I can categorically assure all supporters that the club received no benefit whatsoever. The opposite is true as the effect on the club was wholly negative.” King argued the Murray Group, the former majority shareholder, had been the “real beneficiary”, claiming the tax scheme merely reduced the amount of money it put into the club to fund transfers. The South Africa-based businessman, who was a director of oldco Rangers from 2000 until it was consigned to liquidation in 2012, added: “Every single player that was signed during that period would have been signed whether the Murray Group tax scheme was in place or not. “The benefit went exclusively to David Murray and the Murray Group. Whether the scheme was in place or not, or whether it survived tax scrutiny or not, made no difference whatsoever to the playing squad of the club during that period and hence had no impact on the performance on the pitch. We won all of our titles fair and square.” Former Ibrox chairman Murray is aware of the statement, but has not made any response. King’s stance has altered since June 2012, when he apologised for the EBT affair. Quoted in the Daily Mail, he said: “I follow the logic of the argument that if we lose the tax case then we probably gained some competitive advantage.” The league stated on Wednesday it would take time to examine the Supreme Court judgement and “consider any implications” but the Scottish Football Association quickly ruled out any action, citing legal advice. The Dundee United supporters’ society, however, has added its voice to calls for Rangers to be stripped of trophies. The Arab Trust, which is the third largest shareholder of the club and has an associate director, Stuart Campbell, on the board, argued that EBTs gave Rangers “an unfair advantage in the recruitment of players they would otherwise not been able to afford while also reducing their tax liability in respect of these employees. “It is therefore clear that Rangers FC cheated not only Scottish football in how it won 14 trophies during this period but also Scottish taxpayers by its use of EBTs,” it said. The statement added: “Via our associate director we will be asking Dundee United FC to ensure that supporters’ concerns around the implications of this ruling are investigated fully by both the SFA and SPFL (Scottish Professional Football League). “As the governing bodies of our national competitions both these organisations have legal and moral responsibilities to ensure that not only the letter of their rules and regulations are adhered to but also the spirit of them. “Without this the normal football supporter can have little confidence in how our game is run.”

  13. Alasdair MacLean on

    Sionn……

     

     

    Just finished a 27 month long contract with the French company Total…..

     

     

    Going to send that link … as part of my farewell e-mail to them next week.

     

     

    All in good Auld Alliance fun…..and I know it will go down well.

     

     

    Cheers!

  16. Auldheid on

    NegAnon2 on 8th July 2017 12:12 am

     

     

     

    Pauls article truly disgusts me. Celtic never called for title stripping. Well they bloody should. All this hiding behind people and not saying what you think or believe?

     

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    Right from the off the media have tried to make this saga one between Celtic and TRFC and that suits the SFA. It deflects from their incredible incompetence.

     

     

    Celtic cannot as one member of the SPFL demand title stripping, it has to be a SPFL Board decision after considering the position, which is what they say they are doing, but Celtic have every right to ask for what they did ask without giving any cause for others to complain. It is important to do things right or any action can backfire.

     

     

    The fact that DK is trying to make it a Celtic v TRFC issue and the media misreported the Celtic statement as asking for title stripping should tell you what Celtic are up against. The Celtic statement allows them to ridicule King purely on getting his facts wrong and shelves his protestations. It also allows Celtic to go after the media for misreporting which I certainly would do to put them on notice as the saga unfolds.

  19. Sionnach Abu on

    AULDHEID on 8TH JULY 2017 3:01 AM

     

     

    Unfortunately Neganon2 represents the uneducated masses that get in the way at the end. Stupid is as stupid does. The SFA/SPL are counting on it.

  21. Alasdair MacLean on

    Auldheid,

     

     

    You are well named.

     

     

    Calm sensible heid you could be known as.

     

     

    Someone on here said this week that the main issue is incorrectly registered players.

     

     

    Maybe falsely registered players.

     

     

    That is an issue for the authorities and every team in the league.

  23. Sionnach Abu on

    ALASDAIR MACLEAN on 8TH JULY 2017 3:17 AM

     

    Auldheid,

     

    You are well named.

     

    Calm sensible heid you could be known as.

     

    Someone on here said this week that the main issue is incorrectly registered players.

     

    Maybe falsely registered players.

     

    That is an issue for the authorities and every team in the league.

     

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    Falsely registering players carries the same weight of punishment under any governing football body unless they are corrupt.

  30. Alasdair MacLean on

    Sionnav Abu,

     

     

    The crofters….always.

     

     

    An old story from the trenches..true…from an old man from nort east Sutherland

     

     

    In a down moment the officer said: “This war, this bloody war, who’s going to win this bloody war?”

     

     

    The wee fella near him says, “The Crofters, sir.”

  32. petec on

    That EU Parliament Building.

     

     

    Unfinished Monkey business.

     

     

    Funny – thatdudeisintowwiththeagenda.

     

     

    What the 40somethings want to hear.

     

     

    W@nker.

     

     

    Sometimes you just have to say “I’ve been duped.”

     

     

    The Young ones now..are oblivious to the End of Days.

     

     

    Yeshua/Jesus died to take away EVERY Sin.

     

     

    That is the Truth.

  35. petec on

    THE SFA has so much influence on UEFA it goes so much deeper.

     

     

    I dropped the pictures of Jetskis @ Sandy Lane with teh symbols.

     

     

     

    I want people to pray for the queeen, My big Sis Maureen made me think @ that Time.

     

     

    Noone knows what anyone is going through.

     

     

    Any person who manipulates a person. Good Luck there.

     

     

    You are wrong.

  37. Sionnach Abu on

    ALASDAIR MACLEAN on 8TH JULY 2017 4:01 AM

     

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    Never met any Sutherlanders. Had the company of ex Grenadier Guards in my working capacity during a middle eastern scenario. Most of them had reason to disagree with me at the best of times but all enjoyed this little ditty I played whilst we were taking shelter in a Mosul bunker during a mortar and rocket attack:

     

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6YYLbj03nMg

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