President of La Liga in Spain has stepped into the Catalonian independence referendum debate by saying if Catalonia became independent clubs from that region, notably Barcelona and Espanyol, would have to leave the Spanish league and compete within their new domestic boundaries.
This claim is without foundation as multinational ‘domestic’ leagues are authorised by Uefa, Fifa and the EU, while Spanish clubs are able to compete with foreign clubs in European competition, but this intervention is likely to be one of the more emotive topics in the Catalonian debate. Would Barcelona fans vote for Catalan independence if it required them to withdraw from the Spanish league and hand back their status as one of the game’s world powers? Some would, some wouldn’t.
Football is the key cultural touchstone of European nations. Those who want to preserve the Spanish nation know this. Excluding Scottish clubs from the England and Wales football market has an enormous commercial impact on top-flight clubs here. It also means that our key cultural touchstone is Scottish.
Those who want to build a cohesive UK would be more productive by working to end the exclusion of Scottish clubs from the England and Wales league than telling nationalists they would be wrong to hold another referendum.
Popcorn and ginger on hand for the latest Newco Rangers episode. Flash mobs and EGMs, all destined to further tear the club apart. As we’ve said here for years, internecine strife is the only thing that can really damage a club. That lot seem to have a infinite supply of the stuff.
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BT
I did think you were getting lots of toast and pillow plumping. At the time I put it down to irresistible charm.
I still do mo chara!
Bawsman
At the risk of going all John Donne on you, no nation is truly independent in this global age though I’ll grant you currency is a key determinant of the extent of true autonomy.
Shall we leave it at that for the sake of everyone’s sanity?!?
HH jamesgang
Bmcuw
Think the lubbly jubbly as it’s affectionately known is now part of Nhs Scotland with a special Board status, sooner rather than later it’ll be swallowed up by nhs Glasgow and the food will revert to what is served in those places of care.
#getootquickbt
KITALBA
Que?
Saint Stivs, I’ve had gingerbread ice cream, lovely it was too.
Its a distraction to what’s going on though, Sevco not the ice cream.
We need to improve before laughing at the Sevcovians will taste as sweet as it did.
TrustRonnytoturningitaroundCSC
alasdair maclean-enjoy the best city in the world,but steady yourself for some spelling differences………:)
CHE
Trust wur pal to get in and out in time,eh?
Good luck to him,that’s eighteen months and a lot of pain since the original cure-all op.
And he’s missed four dayooots wi me.
But it’s still his round fae the last time,not getting away wi his bum excuses thinking I’ve forgotten!
Hartson, the man who would bet his wages on 2 flys running up a wall, that’s a laughing stock if ever I seen one.
The guy just can’t help himself having a dig at Celtic or the supporters
And bawsman
I was getting into the equally well worn chestnut of CFC for the EPL debate?
Some might find the Devo debate a lesser of 2 evils!
Meeting time.
Laters.
Congrats to the highland gentleman for the best podium of the day!
HH jamesgang
Smoke and mirrors-good line in there about the Taylor Mades…..:))
Following a hate campaign since Saturday Angela Haggerty has been forced to resign. Her crime being she stated Rangers FC were liquidated.
Only in Scotland…….
Hartsons comments in todays media are exactly what the msm crave, it deflects from the real issues that anyone with a modicum of journalistic integrity should be investigating,
unfortunately there are many ex players only too willing to supply them with the ammunition.
Everyone has and is entitled to their opinion on all matters Celtic, youd think the penny would drop with some of them that theyre only asked to comment on the negative aspects of the Club.
Each to their own I suppose
kitalba
Surely Kris and Ronny would “tutoyer”?
Peut-être, peut-être.
Morning Paul
Your key phrase is obviously
“As we’ve said here for years, internecine strife is the only thing that can really damage a club.”
Something we ourselves are good at.
HH
What has John Hartson said/written?
I’m a bit uncomfortable slagging off Sutton or Hartson. Both legends in my eyes for Celtic.
LB
Che. Some folk would sell there souls for a £1 Hartson and Sutton appear to be that type. H.H.
http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/chris-sutton-ronny-deilas-comments-4393591
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Sutty’s comments in the Record. Nothing particularly controversial. Compared to the views on Ronny here and from the CFC support in general, it’s fair to say Sutty has been diplomatic.
Never understood why being honestly critical of the club is a hanging offense for ex players yet the support are willing to dish out dogs abuse to Ronny, abuse the players, boo them off at half time and full time, phone the hotlines etc.
Kris Commons wearing a beret ..but still wearing the hoops as he cycles to work.
Now I know how the French give you advice about sex and travel.
Always a learning experience on here.
Yes can someone post the remarks that are offensive by Hartson and Sutton? If not can you please gtf?
coolmore mafia
you really need to work on your charm fellah
Apricale @ 13 01.
Barca / Catalonia etc .
Commentator on Sicilian radio claimed that the potential problem stemmed from parliamentary legislation in Spain relating to La Liga . He claimed that the relevant Spanish legislation would have to be amended to allow Barca and Espanyol to play in the Spanish league . He added that it is Parliamentary law that allows teams from Andorra to play in Spain and that equal opportunities legislation would require a team like Barca to be treated in the same way as a wee team from Andorra
I have not checked the veracity of his claims.
coolmore mafia. You can google for information or use other search engines for any information about any subject you choose. H.H.
Hartson,Sutton, Walker, all getting an earner from this SMSM, should be ashamed of them selfs slagging off the celtic manager, the players choked on Sunday, not the manager, Stokes missed to blot headers and shrugs his shoulders, in fact if my memory serves me right, the last time Stokes put his head on was an Elvis impersonater in Dublin, useless pluck.
coolmore mafia
I tend to agree that I don;t see much wrong in what Sutton has said.
Best statement from him was after we lost the league at Killie and he said we knew the Pars would lie down. Honest as the day is long big Chris.
LB
South Of Tunis
That’s interesting. Do things like that not amount to Government intervention in football, which FIFA and UEFA seem to frown on (well, they do if you are a no mark country)?
People tell me it is baltic in Caledonia.
Daughter has advised me to bring my overcoat.
Scarf and gloves already standing by.
HH!!
Peut-être aye Peut-être naw maybe they don’t like each other.
While I have no time for former players who put the boot in to Celtic, I don’t think there is any point in claiming it is not something those who played for the liquidated team would do. They won’t be given the chance in Scotland. The MSM won’t print anything detrimental to the undead.
livibhoy
13:22 on 8 October, 2014
The Lisbon lions are Celtic legends, Paul McStay is a legend Danny mcgrain a legend, hartson sutton good players at a good time for Celtic but they’ll never be legends
Interesting article.
What’s Spanish and Catalan for Project Fear?
coolmore mafia,
It’s really simple: the SMSM will twist everything that anyone associated with Celtic to cast a bad light on the Club. It sells to their major demographic, Scotland’s not so secret shame.
Oops: after Celtic insert says or writes.
Tallybhoy .
Same problem ! .
Will be wearing socks , shoes , and trousers ( rather than shorts and flip flops ) for the first time since early May for tomorrows flight to Londra .
hun skelper
Each to their own. I know Paul McStay and Danny McGrain are legends but for me Sutton and Hartson were part of the best teams I ever saw in the Hoops.
Paul McStay is and always will be my all time Celtic hero.
LB
RWE
13:21 on
8 October, 2014
Morning Paul
Your key phrase is obviously
“As we’ve said here for years, internecine strife is the only thing that can really damage a club.”
Something we ourselves are good at.
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I disagree. I think we are better than good, experts I’d say, but it does take two to tango.
I’m hoping some sort of strategy for better communication comes from recent consultation exercises by Celtic.
So much more could be done to explain the clubs vision and strategy for getting there.
The club response to the CST Resolution
http://www.celtictrust.net/index.php?func=d_home_article&id=486
will be interesting as with proper support many of the causes of complaint and division can be removed.
If I read this right…
If Catalonia became independent from rSpain, Catalonian teams can still play in the Spanish league (due to multinational ‘domestic’ league precedents).
Therefore, since Scotland has chosen not to become independent from rUK, Scottish teams should be allowed to play in the UK league.
The main problem with an informal fallacy is that it often stems from a flaw in reasoning that renders the conclusion unpersuasive. This is no exception.
Paul67
The advantages that a UK League would have in binding the social fabric of a United Kingdom surely cannot have been missed by even the dimmest of our politicians in Westminster?
@Parkheadcumsalford
Which is exactly what I was complaining about. It’s who you are getting into bed with. You should know who the Record are and who they sell to. I know that it’s about making money for these guys but you should know that working for the Record is not working for Celtic. You are part of the media who try to divide us and break us.
To say that Deila was entirely wrong in his assessment and Brown was right is just a case of falling into the common British cliche’s. Nobody was hiding. Our finishing was rank and that’s the end of it. Ronny is right to be happy that we created chances but he has to be concerned that we missed them. It was the same against Maribor, against Zagreb etc.
That’s not to say every criticism is wrong. Though people need to take a step back and understand that this is transition.
I believe we will start seeing progress in November/December. We will be clear at the top by Christmas and the over-the-top criticism will be forgotten.