Celtic have been completely dominant in Scottish football on many occasions but only once did this result in a domestic treble (the treble was won another two occasions when Celtic were only marginally ahead of the competition but were ruthlessly focussed).
At all other times we have had a morning like this, tossed out of one of the cup competitions by a vastly over-performing team. Little more than a handful of games against weaker opponents stood between us and a treble in each of the last two years, but as we have noted for many years now, Celtic are not consistent enough to win the treble. The evidence is substantial.
There are parallel ways we should react to this. In the middle of a Champions League campaign we should be focused on little else, players should be rested for the challenge ahead, even if there are resultant risks, but there will be disappointment that we didn’t see a recognisable performance from those drafted into the team. It wasn’t until Matthews, Commons and Stokes arrived last night that we looked anything like the Celtic we know. On no occasions should we lose at home to a Championship team looking for their first away win since April.
That domestic treble from a dominant position was achieved by Martin O’Neill in season 2000-01, a time when Martin scarcely made a substitution before 85 minutes, never mind rested players. This drew criticism, of course, as his ‘feeder’ players were denied opportunities to grow. Despite last night’s reversal I would still rather use these games to develop the wider squad.
I also don’t subscribe to the belief that ‘every game is a cup final’. Motivational strategies lose effectiveness if you roll them out too often.
Credit to Allan Moore and his “boys with desire and work-rate”.
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setting free the bears supports celtic’s best fighter- wee oscar knox
18:40 on 25 September, 2013
Booting the Huns off the forum would help, CQN might be a Celtic forum but it’s infested with Huns and people seem to think that’s ok but if you put in a wee sweary word in a comment there right into you about it.
Wake up and ban the Huns or the forum will be a joke like FF or RM
HH
BSR – Very good.
: )
Hun skelper,
Kick of the tims with Hun in their moniker would be a good start.
What’s the last tic game you were at as usually find he happy clappers are armchair fans who never experience the highs and lows.
canamalar
that’s disappointing.
Where do all our lost posters go to?
16 roads
Haha, my dad told me a LOT about Charlie Tully. Was screaming myself hoarse last night at our players scared to attack the ball in their box or challenge for 50/50s. It had self preservation for Barca, written all over our team.
16 ROADS
Most of them were outswingers. Beggars belief…
SFTB
You’ll never find me on Facebook, but I gather CQN Facebook page is busy.
Probably because you’ll never find me on Facebook…..
latchford
19:17 on 25 September, 2013
Every game home and away,
Must of hit a nerve there with you scared incase your first ?
canamalar prays oscar can do it again
19:03 on 25 September, 2013
Saltires..,
Don’t knock the passionate negativity it’s probably partially responsible for Lenny’s drive to the better results, if everybody was so easy with defeat as you it’s unlikely the club would be what we are.
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Not happy about any defeat -but performances in league cup don’t get me up or down ….much
League, CL ….big time
and Scottish Cup but only a little bit excited either way
That smarmy dig at Lenny was undeserved, lacking in class!!
Im calling it what it was.
HH
BMCUW
I ave avoided Facebook up until now but how does Facebook manage to keep out the tantrumming weans?
bournesouprecipe
19:05 on 25 September, 2013You are the refIf a player slips on a wet surface inside his penalty box, and the ball touched his arm whilst he lay on the ground?Shoot CSC
What colour of strip did the guy have on?
Kojo
19:00 on 25 September, 2013
Hivae go.. Joe
Seeya
Kojo
Still,Laughin’
Kojo , in fairness you are a bawbag that offers nowt!! Your posts are drivel and I will consistently bypass them as they are rather tedious, long winded and offer nothing along with your Muppet pal the singing detective zzz, surely I cant be the only poster who thinks along these lines??
SFTB
Now you have upset BOJO again!
Don’cha know that this poster is in ‘know’, you know!
H.H.
ps. Keep up the good work!
16 roads.
Nooooo. Not short corners. I can’t abide them.
I’d rather the ‘try and score’ option.
bournesouprecipe
19:05 on 25 September, 2013
You are the ref
If a player slips on a wet surface inside his penalty box, and the ball touched his arm whilst he lay on the ground?
Shoot CSC
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SFA Refs Assoc. Answer:
Who needs internet porn when Celtic players are slipping onto the ball at 0-0…
Apologies to all the posts that I’ve not had time to re-back, read and respond to over the last few days.
The good news is I got the job. The bad news is I would get more money by not working. Yip! The reality of that is mental and agreeing to that is perhaps even more mental. I’m hoping it’s a step in the right direction to get decent money for my labour.
Other news: I went to Celtic Park today and spoke to the lawyer who is dealing with the resolutions that I handed in to Celtic yesterday. I have agreed to keep some details of our conversation confidential but only for two days.
To give extra respect to the club that I love and support, I will do at least that. As it’s clear that my posts are read, I hope giving faith in my club to do the right thing is wise. How the Celtic board react regarding this issue will speak volumes. Not just to me but to the wider Celtic support.
Hun skelper,
I would imagine 99% of the guys on here are Celtic fans. However I find it laughable that any Celtic fan that can’t take criticism of the manager, club, CEO or players and resorts to calling Celtic supporters Huns is usually sitting in his armchair reading the Celtic View with green tinted specs on.
Constructive criticism of the manager or pointing out his failures ( systemic defeats against part time opposition ) is a topic of conversation for many of us.
When I meet fans like yourself or setting free the bears I smile at your breathtaking naivety that all things in the Celtic universe are great.
Celtic have seriously underperfomed in winning trophies in the last 3 years.
We have mismanaged the transfer window and weakened the team.
The coaching staff are very limited.
Celtic will never get to the next level with Lenny as manager.
I am a Celtic man to the core and I dont rate him.
Gerald766
Keep up the good work yourself!
I notice that Kojo does not ever answer you at all when you call hm out on his nonsense.
Amazing how these straight talking, frontiersman self-reliant, fascist-strongman-worshipping, call a spade something offensive, types can come across as tough as a two year old girl when they are crossed.
Morrissey the 23rd
Well done
Heaven Knows I’m Miserable Now CSC
Bada Bing
Does ref no have previous.with us. Matthews great tackle in box at CP mibbees??
setting free the bears supports celtic’s best fighter- wee oscar knox
18:40 on 25 September, 2013
setting free the bears supports celtic’s best fighter- wee oscar knox
18:40 on 25 September, 2013
You two drama queens were really made for each other
latchford
I don’t think you ever have met me and I am thankful for that peace.
However, attributing happy clapping to the non-attending category and mineshafting to the faithful through and through category, is just a big fat magical-thinking lie. It would not stand up to a second’s scrutiny by anyone with an open mind.
But, if it keeps you happy…..
Morrissey
Well done but, I was looking for a job, and then I found a job. But :)
“Celtic will never get to the next level with Lenny as manager.”
What is this next level you speak of latchford?
Morrissey 23rd.
What can you tell us at this stage?
My Dear,Dear,Dear Friend….. Kojo
If You Are Not Away Yet……
Could You Give A Brief Synopsis Of Your
Incandescent Revelatory Post @ 13:02 Today…..
For The Benefit Of Blind &Baldy Cambuslang Coarnerboys……
Who Have All The Insight And Attention-Span…..
Of Aged Kilbowie Greenflies….
Sniffin’ The ‘Brasso’……..
(ThumbsUp?)
Viva The ‘Brig !
Viva Alf Tupper !
mickbhoy
Another boiled frog.
You were so long in a setting where you mistook your office for your personal authority, that you find it difficult to recognise, far less apologise for, the basic transgression of human decency that you committed.
Shameless
saint stivs
18:09 on 25 September, 2013
Wee word of warning if you have a ticket for the Barca game next Wednesday night have it checked out
I think you will find its a snider
0-2 to the sheep
Ma new diddy cup team :)
Latchford
If it acts like a hun, talks like a hun it’s a hun.
Belated thoughts on last night
1) Progress is never linear
1) We have a motivational issue when playing wee teams we expect to beat
2) Dylan unlucky to be hooked
3) Teams are now getting wise to our reliance on set pieces. Block the set piece threat & you curtail our effectiveness …this needs addressed for our Euro campaign
4) We are more likely to lose when Rogic plays – fact
5) We stumbled past Elfsborg and Karagandy, and we still fail to attack the ball in the box. Last night shouldn’t be a surprise
7) putting crosses into the box for a 5’10” forward versus two big centre backs and a goalie who comes off his line, is madness …same story as our set pieces
We need a striker who will go in where it hurts.
On Saturday, I would give Balde a run, purely to see what he can do.
I feel that Virgil and Ambrose are our flair players! Both of them must beat more men than any other player. Virgil looks a class act, and when you see Ambrose, he really does link the defence and midfield well. Only problems with Ambrose are that he is maybe not strong enough for a centre back, and he will get caught bringing the ball out of defence by an intelligent team now and again.
setting free the bears supports celtic’s best fighter- wee oscar knox
19:51 on 25 September, 2013
Ok you win
Listen Mr Lawell I have to apologise that I spent money on watching Manchester United twice at home last season rather than contributing further to your bonuses
Bournesouprecipe
It’s an indirect free kick.
However, if he’s wearing a four leaf clover on his breast……….
grannymacsbhoy-same guy ,think he gave Vic a straight red v St Mirren at The Methodrome as well.
OK, so we lost last night, well done Morton and good luck for the rest of the competition.
Things were tried last night and they failed, but better to do so in our 5th tier tournament (behind the U19 development league in my opinion) than to be experimenting in something more important.
Last week I stood with my son in Torre 3 Verde in the San Siro and watched a Scottish club not only compete with, but at times play a top Italian side off the park. Fair enough we never turned the good play into goals and points, but for the 1st time since the Lions, a top class Italian side were made to look second best against a team from Scotland.
For the true Celtic fans already writing off Pukki, Biton, Boerrigter and Balde, get a grip, it’s early days for these guys and our squad is far stronger this year than last, with a much greater depth in quality.
For the hunterlopers, sevconians and supporters of the former deid club who will be intent on responding negatively to this post please don’t bother, I will have my fingers in my ears humming Zadoc the priest and dreaming of our forthcoming forays in the CL.
Onwards and upwards CSC
GMS
Totally agree, Virgil and Efe oozed confidence last night, whilst the majority of their team mates looked the opposite.
Gonny sumbdy tell me wher ye can git yer study books in order tae qualify as a Hun spotter or is a skill that passed oan from faither tae son