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Last act of Ogilvie should be to call inquiry

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The hours immediately after the First Tier Tribunal reports on Rangers use of Employee Benefits Trusts, which the BBC discovered is due this month, to loan money (!) to staff what happens at Hampden will be most interesting.  SFA president, Campbell Ogilvie, as a director, was legally responsible for Rangers when they started using EBTs and benefited from one himself but he has refused to resign and the SFA have declined to put him on gardening leave, pending a public investigation.

Instead, SFA chief executive, Stewart Regan, told press the Association had investigated Ogilvie’s contribution to the matter and found he had no case to answer, despite widespread scepticism that any investigation whatsoever was held into the president’s involvement in the issue.

If, despite protests from former Rangers directors that the club acted properly at all times, the FTT upholds the position of HMRC, that Rangers incorrectly failed to pay £94m tax, Ogilvie will surely walk (away), as the SFA will have to instigate disciplinary proceedings on the club which inherited Rangers membership, for deeds done while the president was in an executive position at Ibrox.

Even our new friend Charles Green would find it unpalatable that a man responsible for the subsequent penalty remains in charge of the body imposing the penalty.  We’ve said “Ogilvie will surely walk” before, of course, only to witness ever-higher standards of brass neck, but if he pauses for an hour before resigning, let it be to give those of us on the outside of the game what is needed, a full and independent inquiry into the game, how it is administered and controlled. Before the year is out we are likely to learn that our game was violated for more than a decade by people at the very top. A charlatan was expelled from the game earlier this year while the owner of a new club, without financial track record, is trying to raise millions from fans.

In any other European country, even Italy, the inquiry would already be under way.

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  1. Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_Noo on

    Auldheid

     

     

    Playing in Scotland means playing under the auspisces of The SFA. Rangers protection racket etc.

     

     

    If the SFA is not hammered by UEFA then nothing changes and FFP is a UEFA soundbite ?

     

     

    We should not mistake custodial conservatism with a bid to make money. Removing this cancer from our game is far more important than a possible invite to a better league …. Unless that is in the bag.

     

     

    We all await the FTT result. Nearly 12 months late now ? Mmmmmmhhhhh

     

     

     

    HH

  2. Steinreignedsupreme on

    Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_Noo 16:29 on 16 October, 2012

     

     

    “Where has all this trust in the authorities doing the right thing this time come from?”

     

     

    They are dealing with the tax man. There will be no deals. This goes beyond the people charged with running Scottish football – that is why I am confident justice will be done.

  3. Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_Noo on

    JFH

     

     

    An honest and thriving Sevco has already been HMRC’s self confessed aim (excuse the pun)

     

     

    We have been more cheated by the SFA and SPL and SFL for selling us tickets for their competitions that they themselves helped to corrupt.

     

     

     

    HH

  4. Joe Filippis Haircut on

    Steinreignedsupreme. I hope your right fella but it sure is taking a long time. H.H.

  5. Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_Noo on

    Steinreignedsupreme

     

     

    See first sentence above.

     

     

    HMRC is the biggest gangster out there.

     

     

    There hands off approach so far has been shocking.

     

     

    So shocking that I bet many , nearly all. Of the smallest creditors wish they had not been involved. Ticketus failed to become preferred creditor for Murrays plan so I can see why HMRCs action was necessary but it highlights where their interest lies.

     

     

    I remain entirely unconvinced.

     

     

    HH

  6. Steinreignedsupreme on

    Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_Noo 16:46 on 16 October, 2012

     

     

    “HMRC is the biggest gangster out there.”

     

     

    Which is why they will take their pound of flesh when the big bill drops.

     

     

    “There hands off approach so far has been shocking.”

     

     

    They are waiting on the outcome of the Huns appeal like we all are.

     

     

    Keep the faith. the fun has still to come.

  7. 67Heaven ... I am Neil Lennon..!!.. Ibrox belongs to the creditors on

    moonbeams wd. kano 1000 \o/ supporting neil lennon 100%. champions. c’mon wee oscar.

     

     

    16:31 on

     

    16 October, 2012

     

    THUMBSUP

     

     

    http://imageshack.us/a/img836/9131/imageida.jpg

     

     

    MWD

     

     

    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

     

     

    Wonderful photo ………..THANK YOU…,!!!………..THUMBS UP, INDEED, OUR WEE HERO…….!!!!!

  8. Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_Noo on

    Steinreignedsupreme

     

     

    What pound of flesh ?

     

     

    It has been left rotting since Independece day(excuse the pun again)

     

     

    I think you are missing the point that rather than applying the law the authorities – all of them really want Sevco to survive and are in fact bending over backwards – breaking the law and their own statutes to ensure this.

     

     

    Why ?

     

     

    To make money.

     

     

    Initially to pay off debts and then to raise revenue.

     

     

    The delays by 7 independent bodies …along with the delays for rach court case is to allow this money to be raised.

     

     

    HH

  9. Celtic got a mention in the ‘Gazzetta dello Sport’ today in an article about the big 2 kit manufacturers – Adidas and Nike.

     

     

    They even reproduced the new anniversary kit – along with those of Liverpool, Wolfsburg (all green) and 1860 Munich.

     

     

    We are a global brand after all!

     

     

    HH!!

  10. I love charlie Green

     

     

    from AV website

     

     

     

    Villa were surprised late last week when a Charles Green took a swipe at the club.

     

     

    Whilst admittedly bizarre and out of left field, Green did later apologise, as set out below, stating that he was aware of Villa’s pedigree from a defeat of Sheffield Utd when he had worked there.

     

     

    We are hoping that going forward Green will retreat to his day job and leave the cutting remarks for those standing on somewhat stronger footing.

     

     

    Apology from Charles Green, Chief Executive of Rangers Football Club, to Aston Villa:-

     

     

    During a press briefing I was asked how I saw the future of football. I was explaining how I believed that the current situation where clubs in England are receiving massive revenues from television rights, yet remain behind the big clubs in England and Europe in terms of success in competition, is unlikely to continue forever. Some of my remarks were taken out of context and I apologise unreservedly to Aston Villa, whom I know full well to be a club with a proud history. I remember clearly – but not too fondly – them beating Sheffield Utd in the FA Cup when I was chief executive there.”

  11. Steinreignedsupreme on

    Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_Noo 16:59 on 16 October, 2012

     

     

    Delays?

     

     

    Things are moving slowly, but I’m not sure about delays.

     

     

    I remain confident. You don’t. Let’s see how it pans out.

  12. tommytwiststommyturns on

    Aw Naw – look back to earlier in the year when people on here were flapping like albatrosses at the thought of Oldco coming out the other end unscathed.

     

    They didn’t, they cease to exist (like the famous dead parrot) and a conman is now trying to convince a load of Zombies that the new club playing in SFL div 3 is actually the old entity.

     

     

    What events earlier this year should teach us is that we have to show some patience. It’s a bit like waiting for a bust ankle to mesh! :-)

     

     

    We’re getting close to the FTT findings and after that the motley crews at the SFA and SPL will be under the spotlight.

     

     

    Tick Tock

     

    TTTT

  13. Chuck Green ‘remembers’ Aston Villa beating Sheffield United in the FA Cup when he was CEO there.

     

     

    Does he not remember them winning ‘the big cup’?

     

     

    HH!!

  14. Charlie’s remarks were taken out of context. There we have it.

     

     

    Exactly what difference does the context of his remarks (the palaver about Charlie’s vision of the future of football) make to his comment that Aston Villa are useless?

     

     

    Why could he not just say sorry?

  15. I deal with guys like ogilve quite a lot. There is a perception about themselves that they are the b all and end all and most of those who work with them often think the same. Their lives are spent making bad decisions, blaming others for them, concocting reasons why he was right in the first place and telling everyone thing could be worse without them.

     

     

    Too many people think there is nothing you can do about this.

     

     

    These days the best tactic in chasing these people is persistence. They fold eventually.

  16. Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_Noo on

    TTTT

     

     

    Woa way below the belt ;-) Foot is almost perfect for kicking some ass … I thought you might have noticed. ;-)

     

     

    Yes we made inroads. Only due to the Scottish public outrage and not the authorities that have been ever present these last 12 ahem ! corrupting years.

     

     

    HMRC are only interested in getting the taxes raised from the proles not Knights of the realm and they have clearly stated that.

     

     

    The stategy is pretty clear. Sevco must survive before any laws or statutes.

     

     

    Therefore I ask you honestly …having witnessed what we have witnessed so far …especially from HRMC

     

     

    Why do you expect it now ?

     

     

    I quite simply do not trust them and neither should you.

     

     

    HH

  17. celtic_first

     

     

    17:21 on 16 October, 2012

     

    Charlie’s remarks were taken out of context. There we have it.

     

     

     

    Sorry is not in their vocabulary. When did you ever hear sorry emanate from Ibrox?

     

     

    I doubt we ever will.

  18. Murdochbhoy, yermanfromMK on

    Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_Noo

     

    16:59 on

     

    16 October, 2012

     

     

    Absolutely.

     

     

    I still believe the litmus test will be HMRC’s report. Today Paul McConville’s blog carries HMRC’s FTT on Falkirk and that’ll be the benchmark on which to gauge if Oldco retain their privileged position.

     

     

    http://scotslawthoughts.wordpress.com/2012/10/16/first-tier-tribunal-releases-a-decision-about-a-scottish-football-team/

     

     

    Anything less and the games a boggy.

  19. twists n turns on

    TTTT

     

     

    How are you bud? I am afraid it appears I will be in foreign shores working for a few weeks so I am unable to commit at present to anything. Naturally, I shall do my bit financially for your wonderful cause. Will be in touch nearer the time.

  20. RobertTressell, 17:24

     

    He hasn’t exactly been hounded in this – he’s not even on gardening leave.

     

    A wee chat with Chic Young where he lies and a watercooler chat with his boss where he says he never did nathin.

     

    He will go though.

  21. Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_Noo on

    We have been waiting on the courts for some time now.

     

     

    FTT

     

     

    Lord Hodge report

     

     

    Craig Whyte Roofing

     

     

    All stifled at exactly the same time.

     

     

    ECA promised me an announcement at the end of last month regarding Sevco.

     

     

    They were less forth coming having just met Green.

     

     

    Green came back from the ECA meeting and told the SPL and everything about them including Lord Nimmo to GTF.

     

     

    Why ?

     

     

    HH

  22. Here you go Charlie, lets get it back in context

     

     

    “”How can Manchester United’s revenues be £320 million and Aston Villa, who are completely useless, get £250 million?”

     

     

    that clears that up

  23. Bhoys if your interested and don’t want to watch BBC shortbread, the game is on ESPN, though could be a different bunch of fud’s! But at least it will be in HD!

  24. What we all watching tonight? Think I’ll tune in to Slovakia – Greece and keep an eye on Sammi. Hope and pray that he avoids any kind of injury/knock.

     

     

    He’s Greek, he’s great, he’ll smash yer dinner plates, Samaras…Samaras!!!!!

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