Last night is going to hurt. Brendan will hurt, as will the players. As far as our European objectives for this season are concerned – remain involved beyond Christmas – it is close to meaningless, but it will not feel that way.
The players need to make that hurt work for them. Two weeks today, they face Anderlecht. The unpleasant taste of defeat should remain on the taste buds when we take the field in Brussels. This is our opportunity to cleanse the palate. Bottle the hurt, don’t let it escape, let the mood remain sombre.
Use it as a embryo of growth. Be sharper, fitter, more alert and clinical. Take the positives from last night, and there were some, and build on them.
Competitive football is ruthless. Players who reach the Champions League have all filtered through hundreds of iterations of selection and rejection. Last night will have brought the spectre of rejection closer to home than any of them experienced during the Invincible Experience.
If they perform as they can, they will win in Brussels. Do that, and they will justifiably feel better about their place in the great football food chain.
Spare a thought today for others who delighted in our demise last night. The morning after is when they will have realised that defeat just means we redouble our efforts to improve.
Pitch Invader
Oh, and the pitch invader: sue him for whatever fine Uefa impose. It was a mindless attempted assault. The reputational damage to Celtic fans from this type of action is incalculable, which the club must show concern for. The consequences are never appropriately served on the offender. Let them act with apparent impunity (a ban is irrelevant to some) and you let them cause real damage the reputation of Celtic fans.
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Have we ever had 2 consecutive bad days under Brendan?
Not to my knowledge.
Ross Coonty…. be warned.
6-0
FRED C. DOBBS on 13TH SEPTEMBER 2017 11:10 PM
Why does the person in charge of the music keep YNWA running for far too long?
It is much more passionate when they cut the music off when the fans are in full voice.
Why has this changed? Makes us sound like the lesser Liverpool version IMO
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Totally agree. It does my nut in. We get a choreographed 60 seconds of singing. Let the fans sing without any music.
Seen some of the Anderlecht game. With 10 men, they never got turned over that much.
Getting a point in Brussels would be a great result.
GORBALSTAM on 14TH SEPTEMBER 2017 7:24 AM
Big Jimmy on 14th September 2017 5:57 am
Sorry Jimmy, can’t agree with you there. Sure the eejit that ran on should be punished and he has been but it’s certainly not a hero that smacks a boy who is being restrained with his hands behind his back. Like the idiot that ran on the park, the ‘hero’ acted impulsively. Maybe we all felt like doing it but the rest of us managed to control ourselves, like we should’ve.
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Sorry GORBALSTAM,
But there is a serious flaw in your argument….the pitch invader wasn’t a “Boy”…he is 22 years of age, when a “boy” reaches the age of 21…you become a MAN !
When I was his age, I held down a very responsible full time respected job, I was married and had a mortgage and other domestic bills…just like other Grown Ups.
I can assure you that if I had been arrested at the age of 22 I would NOT be viewed as a “Boy”, and facing the charge in a Juvenile Court ?
If this so called “Boy” aged 22, assaulted you or your family in the street, and the Courts decided to send him to a Juvenile Court to be sentenced, would you be okay with that ?
HH
Goooood Morning CQN
So is Reagan, Dickson & Bryson still in their roles at FtSFA ?
Big J, reading this morning Benfica not happy with Champions League, and Portuguese teams being left behind in the financial game
So we could add Portugal (11) to our League Winners Champions Cup :-) when set up
COWIEBHOY on 13TH SEPTEMBER 2017 11:08 PM
Ok big J
the League winners Champions Cup, to run in parallel with the current Champions league and UEFA Cup.
Champions league set up changes next year, whereby the top 4 Countries will have 4 entrants, (England, Germany, Italy & Spain) plus previous season winners of both Champions League and UEFA cup, France and Portugal then get at least 2 each
6 places currently up for grabs through current qualification process
Scrap this, make the 4 Semi finalists from new competition automatic qualifiers for next season
I have counted 38 countries outwith the above named 6, these countries all have League winners.
For 1st season only, some of the smaller ranked countries need to play off to get this number down to 32 ( although Champions league may try to claim another 2 automatic countries for thier competition?)
Any once we have the 32 League winners we run along lines of current format.
For 2nd season of running obviously 4 teams drop out as now in Champions league, so much closer to the 32 automatic participants
List of countries I have and taken from current this season qualifiers (population in brackets)
Austria (8.5m), Albania (3), Azerbaijan (11), Bosnia (3), Belgium (11) , Bulgaria (7), Belarus (9), Cyprus (1), Czech Rep (11), Croatia (4), Denmark (6), Estonia (1.5), Finland (5), Greece (11), Georgia (4), Hungary (10), Holland (17), Israel (8), Ireland (5), Iceland (1), Kosovo (2), Kazakhstan (18), Luxembourg (?), Lithuania(3), Macedonia (2), Malta (0.5), Norway (5), North Ire (2), Poland (38), Romania (20), Russia (144), Sweden (10), Switzerland (8.5), Slovakia (5), Serbia (9), Turkey (79), Ukraine (44), Wales (3)
A fair TV audience from those numbers
League Winners Cup on a Tues, Champions League a Wed, or alternative weeks, UEFA Cup a Thurs
There’s an alternative to the current set up, and offers greater opportunity to all League winners to compete against one another
Thoughts ??
Could be fun and games when Sevco rock up to play benfica in their Canadian friendly.
Video Celts have just uncovered a story wherein Benfica have listed the 16 most corrupt clubs and Sevco make the list.
On this one occasion, I think Sevco merit a few places of promotion up that list:-
Benfica’s view
Remember to add
Celtic – Scotland (5) :-)))
The Kennoway,Hogg and Morrison etc. team is the Empire Exhibition trophy winning one and I could recite it when I was 4 before I went to first game!
No idea why my Dad preferred to teach me that one but only mention Somers and others individually
BTW,TT, surprised you never watched the 7-1 game! I was 17 and at the game.Remeber it like it was yesterday (tho I am trying to forget the day before yesterday!) :)
I see handshake gate has become shirt gate – MSM in full squirrel mode
Noticed I had a post deleted from last night.
It deserved to be.
Apologies OGLACH.
ernie lynch @ 8:56
“And, whatever you think about the rights and wrongs of it, giving the guy a smack at least showed to the public at large what the rest of the supporter (sic) thought of his behaviour. ”
It showed what the guy who punched him thought of him. I would say that the booing of many thousands of fans ,highlighted by Brendan Rogers, showed what we thought of his behaviour. Even so, I admit to having been pleased when I heard of the punching incident and even more so when I read that he was no spring chicken.
JJ
Been reading back and see a bit of comment about Bhoy who ran onto Park.
22 year old, pissed and makes huge error of judgement.
Lost any chance to see his team again for the foreseeable future, likely lose his job, likely get a massive fine and/or possible short custodial sentence, embarrassed himself and his family. Received a deserved slap far an old dude.
What more punishment do some of you want him to receive?
Oh wait, be taken to civil court and recompense club for any future fine or financial loss for stadium closure. Aye OK. Maybe a public flogging or to be hung drawn and quartered.
Yeah he made a massive mistake that will likely cost our club.
But there are club failures here from a security side.
Firstly, stewards missed him entering pissed. Stewards let him climb gate or wall. Not only did he have to climb gate or wall he then had to get over advertising hoarding. He then was able to run half the length of Park. WTF was security doing?
I remember the complaints about Hun security at iPox not so long ago.
Rather than go after the lad who will never be in a position to recompense the club, it’s the security company who have failed the club and who should be chased for any financial loss. They pay minimum wage, if that, to staff who aren’t going to put themselves at risk for paltry pay and they provide a less than adequate service. They deserve to be penalised.
The bhoy has/will be penalised by the courts, the club, his work etc. plus a criminal record.
So get your rocks out and let’s stone him too.
MWD Celtic is not just for Christmas
Cowiebhoy
I would differentiate between UEFA and the biggest clubs when thinking about motivations, ambitions and fears ref future competitions.
UEFA must surely be bricking if that the top 10-12 highest earners across Europe head off to create their own competition (which would soon get boring?)
So they’re likely trying to balance a tough cop/dug with its tail between its legs (undignified!) balance in its dealings with them.
‘Also ran’ clubs (of which we are one in a good year) end up a bit like Everton or Southampton are in the English league. We’re not going to win it. But we love the glamour and money and dream of our team ‘doing a Leicester’!
We’ll all fall back in love with Zadoc and the mammon of European football when we surprise Bayern home and away!
;-)
HH jamesgang
https://philmacgiollabhain.ie/2017/09/13/supplementary-transparency-required/
phils up
I think phil asking these questions will let the sfa know that the evidence is there to contradict their lies
There seems to be the assumption that the interloper was drunk.
Perhaps other substances could have been at play.
One other issue.
He emerged , we are told , from the safe standing area.
Was he a member of the G.B. ?
Or is this a case of ” Don`t ask . Don`t tell ” ?
It’s not an assumption. His council stated this in court! He was under the influence of alcohol.
No wait! He was on a concoction of drugs and steroids and thought he was Bolt.
Aye OK!
Either way there were security failures by the club directly/indirectly.
Of course he was a member of the GB. That’s the obvious conclusion when you blame them for everything from possible nuclear war to Brexit stupidity.
MWD
MWD
Maybe UEFA should be included in your list. If Celtic are fined, what will we be fined for?
I am reasonably sure our security measures will have matched those at all other CL venues that night. That we were unfortunate enough to have stewards AT THAT PART OF THE GROUND who , like the SFA, were unfit for purpose, is not, IMO, sufficient grounds for a fine ( at least).
Also, an intelligent chap like yourself will be aware that the reactionary response is because of an awareness of how the actions of ONE supporter can impinge on the whole club and maybe the whole support in the unlikely event of ground closure.
JJ
Macjay
A normally very reliable poster ( Jobo, I think) said on here that the `invader` did NOT come from the standing area..
JJ
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Scroll back, look for a post by our ex weather man …
Macjay
Also, as far as I am aware from my seat in 106, the GB are quite far back in the standing section.
JJ
Macjay.
Categorically he did not enter from the safe standing area. It was the seating area to the left (towards the goal). I watched the whole thing unfold frpm my own spot (in the standing atea!).
CELTICFOREVER
JJ deals with the same subject today,apparently Barry Ferguson had an official contract of £450k. His EBTs were the equivalent of £500k pa.
Let’s assume for the sake of simplicity that he would be taking home 50% of gross,so £225k. Plus the £500k.
That puts him on equiv of £1450k pa. of which HMRC received £225k,about 15%. I pay a higher %age than that,no wonder it was so attractive to Minty.
All during the game the GB section has a wall of yellow jacketed stewards in front of it, no way did the person on the park come from that section.
One of our esteemed posters who is a season ticket holder in the GB section has confirmed that the person DID NOT come from the GB standing section of the ground.
I will believe Jobo before anyone else who may, or may not, have an agenda against the GB.
Bognorbhoy
That`s you and I down as GB apologists now, I fear :-))
( Not really. I am sure Macjay will accept what we have said).
JJ
Hot Smoked
Actually, the GB occupy the lower section of the Kraft cheese triangle. Us old fogeys are up the back.
Back to workin for me…..
JJ
The reactionary respond I get, during game and maybe just after it. But almost 2 days after???
Who hasn’t done something daft while on the sauce.
If there is a partial stadium closure it will not be directly down to the bhoy but an accumulation of perceived offences over last couple of years. I say perceived because all were not really offences, just stuff that upset UEFA.
UEFA are ….
that includes majority of fans singing Rebs against Hunfield.
MWD
Now that Jobo himself has confirmed and TET has added his voice in support, Supermac will just have to agree :-))
I’m pretty sure the young fool didn’t come from the standing section, and of course even if he did it disnae mean he was a Green Brigade member, the 2 ain’t mutually exclusive.
H.H
BOBBY MURDOCH’S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS on 14TH SEPTEMBER 2017 10:14 AM
It’s not just income tax, the way the EBT scheme was structured it also avoided inheritance tax.
Of course he was GB.
I spilt my coffee this morning and it was the GB’s fault.
Just because…
MWD
Thought the Green Brigade were quite wonderful Tuesday night. Their tifo, there match long & after match support despite our Bhoys taking a Historical drubbing was uplifting. I think any attempt to link them without a shred of evidence to the pitch invader is regrettable & totally unnecessary,
P.S. Where the Hell is CQN corner went looking for it again pre match & found zilch.
I’m a bit behind the curve regarding the GB, but from what I know of them from their early days, unless their culture has completely changed, there is just no way any of them would be running on the pitch.
ERNIELYNCH
Good point. Though academic,as Barry won’t be the only one in the bankruptcy courts.
MWD
Fair point re time to calm down.
UEFA has said ( I know!) that this incident will be treated in isolation.
Jobo
I am really surprised at that. From my seat looking at the standing section, the stewards seem to be massed about twenty rows back looking at the GB. I had thought the supporters in front of them ie down towards the pitch, were not GB members.
Anyway, the GB`s `crimes` are of an organised nature and are not spontaneous acts of stupidity.
( and just to be clear, I am a big fan of the GB).
JJ
MOONBEAMSWD on 14TH SEPTEMBER 2017 10:18 AM
Whoever deals with security arrangements has to bear some of the responsibility.
Given the possibility of a terrorist attack at high profile matches you’d think the very least you’d expect is that no one could get onto the pitch.
HOT SMOKED on 14TH SEPTEMBER 2017 10:15 AM
Bognorbhoy
That`s you and I down as GB apologists now, I fear :-))
Och well, I’ve been put down as worse things ;-)
Callum McGregor signs new 4yr deal.
BOBBY MURDOCH’S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS on 14TH SEPTEMBER 2017 10:25 AM
ERNIELYNCH
‘Good point. Though academic,as Barry won’t be the only one in the bankruptcy courts.’
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The whole thing has dragged on so long that Barry, and the rest of them, will have had time to divest themselves of their assets, so bankruptcy will suit them fine. All it will do is allow them to write off their debts.
Forza Green Brigade