Livingston’s return to action after the World Cup was postponed when the Pasta Plastic Pitch was frozen on Saturday. That leaves them fresher than David Martindale would prefer, we can hope for a rusty performance at Celtic Park tonight.
Celtic comfortably disposed of them in late October, but they have been in fine form since, beating Kilmarnock and Aberdeen, and drawing at Tynecastle. Their subsequent friendlies have provided encouragement: a narrow defeat to QPR and three goal wins over Latvians Liepaja and Dutch Fortuna Sittard. I expect Celtic to win, but they will have to work for it.
Last night: that’s football. If you think leagues are won the easy way you have not been watching as long as I have. You don’t really want them easy either, if managers, players and clubs are not working hard, malaise can set in. The handballs, VAR and consistency? I asked that the SFA would use the World Cup break to train their referees and effect an interpretation of the handball rule that is consistent with The Rules of the Game. Subsequent events will determine if this is the case, or if other acts are at play. Most particularly on 2 Janaury.
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Get in there thumb celtic
Get intae thum celtic even.
One man’s teething issue is another man’s stupidity.
Refereeing controversy and cynicism is a feature of Celtic supporters and their genetics in a long illustrious history, its condemnation is routinely branded paranoia. There is no such condition as collective paranoia, “If it was up to me we’d be playing in England “ or words to that effect – David Hay
VAR is a belt and braces job for Sevco, two for the price of one refereeing, who now stand without a single negative VAR intervention since it was introduced in Scotland. Handballs don’t count when they appear in nearly every single game they play without even a hint of review.
Of course it’s all just coincidence, slip up at your peril Celtic, and they’ll be in like Flynn, ask Neil Lennon.
It’s VAR Jim, but not as we know it.
Glendalystonsils @ 10:46am.
Cheers.
I hear you and absolutely don’t doubt you.
My point is … Sevco fans need little persuading (and certainly not bodies of evidence) that corners are being turned.
In that sense, they are the easiest marks in town and the main reason Scottish printed newspapers are still in business.
Sevco might very well win 5 league games in a row at some point (equalling their best spell across September and October).
There’s a bit of a discipline required by our faithful.
Recognise the vacuous noise for what it is … and tune it out.
Think the VAR decisions last night were all ok. The point is that all of them would 100% have gone against Celtic had it been us in those positions.
Sevco under Beale look like Sevco under Gio with only Kent appearing more central but still pish.
Bealeball is a myth. The guy is a charlatan and he will be found out in the next few months.
Only VAR and the ref conspiring against us at Ibrox will prevent us getting a result there.
Big Gio up front from the start tonight. Batter them from the start.
A comprehensive won tonight would be nice but I’ll settle for 3 points whatever way they come.
“Last night: that’s football. If you think leagues are won the easy way you have not been watching as long as I have. ”
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What happened last night? Did we get a points deduction? If not then we are still well on course for around 100 points (possibly a bit above or below but still comfortably more than anyone else will get, regardless of how much they try to hype up the old firm or generate a “title race”).
Livingston will be a stubborn opponent. Hopefully we can get in front reasonably early. Quick passing, good movement and get the combination plays working and the three points will be ours.
Six clear with a game to come is as easy a league campaign as we’ve had for many a year. We focus and do our jobs, I believe we’ll be at least 12 clear on the 3rd January. What they do is irrelevant. That’s the advantage we have as comfortable league leaders.
Last night had a 90’s Celtic feel about it, an occasional huge win to keep the taillights of Diedco at least on the horizon… if we beat them 3 times then e are only a point behihd..
Wont make a jot of a difference
ONENIGHTINLISBON on 21ST DECEMBER 2022 12:13 PM
Think the VAR decisions last night were all ok.
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The point is that all of them would 100% have gone against Celtic had it been us in those positions.
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And would you still have been ok with that ?
BOGNORBHOY on 21ST DECEMBER 2022 12:32 PM
Why would I be OK with that?
We are treated differently, always have been. VAR shining a spotlight on it now.
Let’s see what happens across our next 4 games, particularly the one on the 2nd, but I suspect ‘other acts are at play’.
If so, Celtic (and your good self) welcoming the introduction of VAR will have been a serious error of judgment.
Once you’ve got away with cheatin’ BIG, cheatin’ small is easy.
Beaton appointed for 2/1/23 derby with Don Robertson riding shotgun on VAR.
We’ll need to have our shooting boots on at their midden.
dream on Paul.
i think they are trying to normalise ‘their interpretation’ of the VAR rules prior to Jan 2.
I asked that the SFA would use the World Cup break to train their referees and effect an interpretation of the handball rule that is consistent with The Rules of the Game. Subsequent events will determine if this is the case, or if other acts are at play. Most particularly on 2 Janaury.
It seems fholk are getting het up with the handball rule, especially how it is being interpreted in the penalty box by VAR
Having watched us in Europe and having watched the world cup it seems the officials can now see hand balls with greater clarity and are strict in calling a foul when incidents do occur
The ball played him, ball to hand, natural arm position and other previous defences hold little sway.
Celtic is an outlier so there is greater consistency outwith our matches
We look at the Haksabanovic incident when the ball hits the player on the back at his shoulder and upper arm, no way that’s a penalty, so to expect similar to be given in the case of Tavenier is wrong mindedness
Likewise the ball hitting Heart’s Michael Smith in their penalty box is a penalty all day long, expecting Matt O’Riley not to concede a penalty for ball to elbow is equally wrong minded
We saw controversy in the world cup with the best officials using state of the art, ubiquitous VAR, so there are going to be inconsistencies in Scotland but I think we are a bit clearer on what a handball is
Of course the rule will be tweaked by Scottish officials to be more severe in the case of Celtic and less severe in the case of Rangers
But follow the above and I think we know what to expect in terms of hand ball in Scotland.
Hail Hail
Hail Hail
A Family at VAR.
ONENIGHTINLISBON
Sorry If that came across wrong , let me try again …
Should there be an ” if you ” to start this statement …
Think the VAR decisions last night were all ok.The point is that all of them would 100% have gone against Celtic had it been us in those positions.
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To me it read as if you were ok with the var decisions , but as you and I (and others ) think against us they are given .
“ We will not be cheated differently “
John Reid – mibbees
chairbhoy
Are you sure it was Haksabanovic?
BOGNORBHOY on 21ST DECEMBER 2022 12:42 PM
Not a problem pal.
We are up against it but always have been.
The usual adage applies, just score as many as possible making these “decisions” count for nothing…
Michael Nicholson stated at the AGM that Celtic were monitoring the “progress” of VAR…….
Even now there is a huge weight of evidence to support the bias claim.
Wonder if our board full of cowards, yes men and “Old Firm” apologists would ever challenge the powers that be……
Up until this season we had unaccountable referees , now we also have unaccountable video assistant referees.
Var is meant to provide clarifying evidence . If the operators don’t wish to provide that evidence , they simply don’t show us it (Jota at Motherwell).
It is an extra safety net for Sevco , not that they needed it .
I had hoped that our leadership team had been lobbying on our behalf re VAR.
As others have stated, we’ll see what post world cup brings
CELTIC MAC @ 12:58 PM,
Cheers, it was of course Bernabei that the erroneous penalty and yellow card was awarded against
Seemed to really upset the bhoy to boot
Hail Hail
The sheep shindigs are over and no harm done.
We have the opportunity tonight to go 9 points clear.. we have the best squad we have had for donkeys years and a gem of a manager.
Dont waste your time and energy worrying about ouhers. Let the others worry about us, because they know as well as we do , that we never stop.
HH. And COYBIG.
chairbhoy
Thing is, if you can’t even get the player right….
how do expect the referee to get the decision right?
wewuzrobbedcsc
I see we have brother Beaton for the Ibrox game . We are being herded towards the back seats on the ol’ bus again .
And the compliant Uncle Tom, Collum on VAR, the Dream Team for Sevco
I don’t have any beef with Celtic pies, neither for that matter do Celtic pies. Having previously purloined a sirloin in Parkhead, it’s plain fayre for this midweek fatty. An online conversation elsewhere led me to think of the ingredients inside the obviously hasty pastry. Celtic supporting pie connoisseurs have travailled the globe, living a life of pie, it seems.
But the marvellous mixture of Parkhead pie with bovril white pepper only, no salt strictly is a combo, like no other. The recent cold spell makes the more sophisticated but top rate steak version with beefy bovril, a too high a potential darkside double of a no no pasodoble. The tendency for the Celtic end, to sell out of the extraordinary ’ordinary’ pies, doesn’t tend to bother the locals much. whose dinner was already inner, and at least have the decency to wait until half time, for any meaty substitute.
Inferior offerings like the curry pie, pizza slice, tray of chips, (Glasgow salad) don’t cut the mustard, funny how they don’t sell out first? and on a scale of one, to Mo Bangura how bizarre can you get, in the cashless cool of Parkhead in December.
Anybody that puts anything inside a Parkhead pie other than the mystery mince, anybody that drinks bovril white pepper no salt, and eats a pie simultaneously anywhere other than in Paradise, is well worth the watching.
BTW CSC
GALLAGHER on 21ST DECEMBER 2022 12:38 PM
Beaton appointed for 2/1/23 derby with Don Robertson riding shotgun on VAR.
We’ll need to have our shooting boots on at their midden.
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Moofbreathers krissmus dinner at the pishstainers suite in the crown bar bellshill before Gallagher
We play and we will win buddy.
:-)
HH
Hillbilliescsc
BSR. :-)))
I guess your still digesting the pie from our last home game :-)
HH
SFA is corrupt. They have had 2 SFA Chiefs fired—-Maxwell is overseeing the cheating on a weekly basis and needs to go.
Time for Celtic to come out and state they have zero confidence in VAR as administered by the SFA. Need to demand UEFA intervention and independent VAR officials.
The whole country can go on strike if they want—- its heading that way anyway.
Or the board could go with the hard-hitting “disappointed” as they did following LNS.
Celtic scoring against Queen’s Park on a muddy pitch in 1967. The Spiders remain the third most successful Scottish Cup side of all time, with ten wins. Their last cup win was in 1893. They were the most powerful club in Scottish Football’s early years.
https://twitter.com/tirnaog_09/status/1479728274616066049/photo/1
LUCKY CODY on 21ST DECEMBER 2022 1:48 PM
Time for Celtic to come out and state they have zero confidence in VAR as administered by the SFA. Need to demand UEFA intervention and independent VAR officials.
Lovely thought, never going to happen in a million years.
Lisbon Lion
@tirnaog_09
Old Janefield Street in the midst of demolition. That was the scene of some pretty dreadful behaviour from those sent to keep us safe back in the 80s. The so called ‘Janefield St riot’ was another near miss for supporters that night
https://twitter.com/tirnaog_09/status/1605092773966876672/photo/1
http://tirnaog09.blogspot.com/2013/03/semper-vigilo-glasgow-can-be-rough-town.html
CELTIC MAC @ 1:18 PM,
Not really following, are you suggesting that as I miswrote Bernabei as Haksabanovic in a senior moment, (an honest mistake if you will) that it is quite possible either…
the referee and VAR made a mistake
or
the referee and VAR got the decision correct?
Hail Hail