Under the current rules, the Dundee United penalty on Saturday was a correct decision, as was the yellow card to Alexandro Bernabei. If your arm is away from your body and the ball hits it, a foul is committed. If this happens inside the box with VAR in attendance, this should lead to a penalty. Outside the box, VAR will seldom intervene, so ridiculous examples of the genre, like Alexandro’s on Saturday, are less likely to be punished. Fifa and VAR have inverted the ‘Outside the box it’s a foul all day’ rule.
The yellow card was also correct, if the arm stops an attempt at goal, a caution should be issued. Taken in total, these rules will lead to game being decided by a high proportion of random events inside the penalty area. Our experience in Madrid last week, where despite a good early showing, we were out of the contest due to penalties that would not have met the required criteria a few years ago, will happen again.
Defenders will also face increased jeopardy when on a yellow card. Previously, they could make sure they did not get involved in an incident that would lead to a second yellow, but there is little can be done to prevent a ball changing direction towards you and hitting an arm when you are jumping, landing or twisting your body.
Corner kicks and long balls into the box will become more dangerous than ever before. We will see the ridiculous scenario, where defenders jump and move around the box with their arms straight down, or behind their back, while attackers have the freedom to leverage their arms. Hopefully the World Cup will be determined by such an event, ushering in a rapid rethink.
Yesterday, according to the referee, already-booked Hearts keeper, Craig Gordon, fouled Motherwell’s Louis Molt, who was clean through with only the keeper to beat. The referee failed to show Craig a second yellow card. I am not convinced it was a penalty kick in the first place, but if it was, not sending Craig off goes against the rules. We need referees and VAR observers who can make better decisions, but as a Celtic fan, you have known that for generations! *(not mentioning our visit to Tynecastle).
It was a great weekend that again proved how football often pivots on fine margins. Seven points is a huge advantage, provides Celtic with breathing space and puts pressure on the also-rans who are now besieged. Two years ago, it was Celtic and Neil Lennon in the spotlight. It’s easier to look in from the outside and see the clear and obvious mistakes that happen when things are not going your way. We’ll explore this tomorrow.
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BIGRAILROADBLUES on 7TH NOVEMBER 2022 2:35 PM
Big Jimmy
That was eerily familiar to my conversation with Mrs BRRB on Saturday night. Then everything went dark.
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I can believe it Mate.
Ive been there myself many times in the past.
LOL
HH.
11. The period of play before and after an incident that can be reviewed is
determined by the Laws of the Game and VAR protocol.
12. As the VAR will automatically ‘check’ every situation/decision, there is no
need for coaches or players to request a ‘review’
2. Reviewable Match-changing Decisions/Incidents
The referee may receive assistance from the VAR only in relation to four categories
of match-changing decisions/incidents. In all these situations, the VAR is only used
after the referee has made a (first/original) decision (including allowing play to
continue), or if a serious incident is missed/not seen by the match officials.
The referee’s original decision will not be changed unless there was a ‘clear and
obvious error’ (this includes any decision made by the referee based on information
from another match official, e.g. offside).
The categories of decision/incident which may be reviewed in the event of a
potential ‘clear and obvious error’ or ‘serious missed incident’ are:
a. Goal/no goal
• attacking team offence in the build-up to or scoring of the goal
(handball, foul, offside, etc.)
• ball out of play prior to the goal
• goal/no goal decisions
• offence by goalkeeper and/or kicker at the taking of a penalty kick or
encroachment by an attacker or defender who becomes directly
involved in play if the penalty kick rebounds from the goalpost,
crossbar or goalkeeper
b. Penalty kick/no penalty kick
• attacking team offence in the build-up to the penalty incident (handball,
foul, offside, etc.)
• ball out of play prior to the incident
• location of offence (inside or outside the penalty area)
• penalty kick incorrectly awarded
• penalty kick offence not penalised
c. Direct red cards (not second yellow card/caution)
• DOGSO (especially position of offence and positions of other players)
• serious foul play (or reckless challenge)
• violent conduct, biting or spitting at another person
• using offensive, insulting or abusive action(s)
d. Mistaken identity (red or yellow card)
• If the referee penalises an offence and then gives the wrong player
from the offending (penalised) team a yellow or red card, the identity
of the offender can be reviewed; the actual offence itself cannot be
reviewed unless it relates to a goal, penalty incident or direct red card.
3. Practicalities
Use of VARs during a match involves the following practical arrangements:
• The VAR watches the match in the video operation room (VOR) assisted
by an assistant VAR (AVAR) and replay operator (RO)
Depending on the number of camera angles (and other considerations)
there may be more than one AVAR or RO
• Only authorised persons are allowed to enter the VOR or communicate with
the VAR/AVAR/RO during the match
• The VAR has independent access to, and replay control of, TV broadcast
footage
• The VAR is connected to the communication system being used by the
match officials and can hear everything they say; the VAR can only speak
to the referee by pushing a button (to avoid the referee being distracted by
conversations in the VOR)
• If the VAR is busy with a ‘check’ or a ‘review’, the AVAR may speak to the
referee especially if the game needs to be stopped or to ensure play does
not restart
• If the referee decides to view the replay footage, the VAR will select the best
angle/replay speed; the referee can request other/additional angles/speeds
4. Procedures
Original decision
• The referee and other match officials must always make an initial decision
(including any disciplinary action) as if there was no VAR (except for a
‘missed’ incident)
• The referee and other match officials are not permitted to give ‘no decision’
as this will lead to ‘weak/indecisive’ officiating; too many ‘reviews’ and
significant problems if there is a technology failure
• The referee is the only person who can make the final decision; the VAR
has the same status as the other match officials and can only assist the
referee
• Delaying the flag/whistle for an offence is only permissible in a very clear
attacking situation when a player is about to score a goal or has a clear run
into/towards the opponents’ penalty area
• If an assistant referee delays a flag for an offence, the assistant referee
must raise the flag if the attacking team scores a goal, is awarded a penalty
kick, free kick, corner kick or throw-in, or retains possession of the ball after
the initial attack has ended; in all other situations, the assistant referee
should decide whether to raise the flag, depending on the requirements of
the game
Check
• The VAR automatically ‘checks’ the TV camera footage for every potential
or actual goal, penalty or direct red card decision/incident, or a case of
mistaken identity, using different camera angles and replay speeds
• The VAR can ‘check’ the footage in normal speed and/or in slow motion but,
in general, slow-motion replays should only be used for facts, e.g. position
of offence/player, point of contact for physical offences and handball, ball
out of play (including goal/no goal); normal speed should be used for the
‘intensity’ of an offence or to decide if it was a handball offence
• If the ‘check’ does not indicate a ‘clear and obvious error’ or ‘serious missed
incident’, there is usually no need for the VAR to communicate with the
referee – this is a ‘silent check’; however, it sometimes helps the
referee/assistant referee to manage the players/match if the VAR confirms
that no ‘clear and obvious error’ or ‘serious missed incident’ occurred
Gene – top man, who do we speak to? 🧐
In all seriousness, it is the kind of thing FIFA should be focusing on. No real downsides that I can think of. Angeball would thrive with it 💚
If the restart of play needs to be delayed for a ‘check’, the referee will signal
this by clearly holding a finger to the earpiece/headset and extending the
other hand/arm; this signal must be maintained until the ‘check’ is complete
as it announces that the referee is receiving information (which may be from
the VAR or another match official)
• If the ‘check’ indicates a probable ‘clear and obvious error’ or ‘serious
missed incident’, the VAR will communicate this information to the referee,
who will then decide whether or not to initiate a ‘review’
Review
• The referee can initiate a ‘review’ for a potential ‘clear and obvious error’ or
‘serious missed incident’ when:
– The VAR (or another match official) recommends a ‘review’
– The referee suspects that something serious has been ‘missed’
• If play has already stopped, the referee delays the restart
• If play has not already stopped, the referee stops play when the ball is next
in a neutral zone/situation (usually when neither team is in an attacking
move) and shows the ‘TV signal’
• The VAR describes to the referee what can be seen on the TV replay(s) and
the referee then:
– Shows the ‘TV signal’ (if not already shown) and goes to the referee
review area to view replay footage – ‘on-field review’ (OFR) – before
making a final decision. The other match officials will not review the
footage unless, in exceptional circumstances, asked to do so by the
referee
or
– Makes a final decision based on the referee’s own perception and the
information from the VAR, and, where appropriate, input from other
match officials – VAR-only review
• At the end of both review processes, the referee must show the ‘TV signal’
immediately followed by the final decision
• For subjective decisions, e.g. intensity of a foul challenge, interference at
offside, handball considerations, an ‘on-field review’ (OFR) is appropriate
• For factual decisions, e.g. position of an offence or player (offside), point of
contact (handball/foul), location (inside or outside the penalty area), ball out
of play, etc. a VAR-only review is usually appropriate but an ‘on-field review’
(OFR) can be used for a factual decision if it will help manage the
players/match or ‘sell’ the decision (e.g. a crucial match-deciding decision
late in the game)
• The referee can request different cameras angles/replay speeds but, in
general, slow-motion replays should only be used for facts, e.g. position of
offence/player, point of contact for physical offences and handball, ball out
of play (including goal/no goal); normal speed should be used for the
‘intensity’ of an offence or to decide if it was a handball offence
• For decisions/incidents relating to goals, penalty/no penalty and red cards
for denying an obvious goal-scoring opportunity (DOGSO), it may be
necessary to review the attacking phase of play which led directly to the
decision/incident; this may include how the attacking team gained
possession of the ball in open play
• The Laws of the Game do not allow restart decisions (corner kicks, throw-
ins, etc.) to be changed once play has restarted, so they cannot be reviewe
ART OF WAR on 7TH NOVEMBER 2022 2:46 PM
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As clear as MUD then ?
HH
For me VAR is an arse and is ruining the game. The delays affect the celebration of a goal and kills the atmosphere. We would be better leaving the decision to the MIB rather than a group of MIBs who have time to think of a reason not to award Celtic the goal.
In addition, there has to be better communication for the fans. The possible Red Card decision on Saturday just frittered away with no clear explanation. It was clearly a foul and at the very least a yellow
VAR officials are not all Huns. On Saturday, the Assistant was Sean Carr who I can assure you is not from the dark side.
If play has stopped and restarted, the referee may only undertake a ‘review’,
and take the appropriate disciplinary sanction, for a case of mistaken
identity or for a potential sending-off offence relating to violent conduct,
spitting, biting or extremely offensive, insulting and/or abusive action(s)
• The review process should be completed as efficiently as possible, but the
accuracy of the final decision is more important than speed. For this reason,
and because some situations are complex with several reviewable
decisions/incidents, there is no maximum time limit for the review process
Final decision
• When the review process is completed, the referee must show the ‘TV
signal’ and communicate the final decision
• The referee will then take/change/rescind any disciplinary action (where
appropriate) and restart play in accordance with the Laws of the Game
Players, substitutes and team officials
• As the VAR will automatically ‘check’ every situation/incident, there is no
need for coaches or players to request a ‘check’ or ‘review’
• Players, substitutes and team officials must not attempt to influence or
interfere with the review process, including when the final decision is
communicated
• During the review process, players should remain on the field of play;
substitutes and team officials should remain off the field of play
• A player/substitute/substituted player/team official who excessively shows
the ‘TV signal’ or enters the RRA will be cautioned
• A player/substitute/substituted player/team official who enters the VOR will
be sent off
Match validity
In principle, a match is not invalidated because of:
• malfunction(s) of the VAR technology (as for goal line technology (GLT))
• wrong decision(s) involving the VAR (as the VAR is a match official)
• decision(s) not to review an incident
• review(s) of a non-reviewable situation/decision
Incapacitated VAR, AVAR or replay operator
Law 6 – The Other Match Officials stipulates: “Competition rules must state clearly
who replaces a match official who is unable to start or continue and any associated
changes.” In matches using VARs, this also applies to replay operators.
As special training and qualifications are needed to be a video match official
(VMO)/replay operator, the following principles must be included in competition
rules:
• A VAR, AVAR or replay operator who is unable to start or continue may only
be replaced by someone who is qualified for that role
• If no qualified replacement can be found for the VAR or replay operator, *
the match must be played/continue without the use of VARs
• If no qualified replacement can be found for the AVAR, * the match must be
played/continue without the use of VARs unless, in exceptional
THEBHOYFROMU.N.C.L.E on 7TH NOVEMBER 2022 1:08 PM
Armless fun??
:-))))
Some VAR clarification…..sorry for long posts but good to be informed.
Seen somewhere that with VAR disruption and Utd keeper injury in the first half it amounted to just under 8 minutes…..ref calls 5 mins when it is stated no time shall be lost in the event of VAR stoppages, basically cheating us at will with no comebacks.
Also big Jenz got booked after Kyogo goal for uprooting corner flag with his boot……..is that an offence?
And his strike partner Daedalus was a dumpling anaw. Greekmythologyatholyroodcsc 😂
AoW 2.50pm
Never mind VAR when you back at work ya malingerer :-)
BIGRAILROADBLUES on 7TH NOVEMBER 2022 2:40 PM
Never heard of them, did they do a cover of the Bananerama classic?
SAINT STIVS on 7TH NOVEMBER 2022 2:40 PM
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SOUNESS…
This CHUMP only serves my opinion that many Ex Players ( and CURRENT Fitba Players) arent too BRIGHT.
There are a few exceptions of course…but only a few.
HH Mate
CELTIC40ME 2.53
Infamy! 😂
Not been in the blog for a few days …
Anybody else think this season is reminiscent of the centenary season ….
If you get a chance listen to SSB when United equalise on Saturday
It’s hilarious …. especially when wee Kyogo puts us back in front 🇯🇵
GFTB – At fracture clinic the noo mate. Been waiting for an hour so plenty of time to waste.
My malingering will continue until January mate…..jealous much? Lol
AoW 2.56pm
As long as your on the mend …
A wee Monday flex day for me, just at the school picking the wee granddaughter up
The school run fair bears Monday phones :-)
Art of War
GFTB calling anyone a malingerer is a laugh. Coming from the man who has 4 hour lunch breaks. 😜
ARMS in UNNATURAL POSITION ?
Its NOT ONLY Fitba that are affected by ARMS being in an UNNATUARL POSITION.
For many years now, Ive observed MANY Wummin walking along the street with their Pals and having their ARMS FOLDED across their Chest, whilst Walking and Talking at the same time.
I honestly do NOT know how they do it ?
The ONLY times that Ive seen a MAN doing likewise, is NOT on the streets, but Fitba Managers pacing up and down the Touchline, and sometimes their arms are ” Folded”…and/or some in other sports apart from Fitba ?
Just a wee observation…
HH
Big Jimmy, you should see the section devoted to what size of logos etc are allowed on shirts and shorts…..
They drown themselves in manure and dress it up as administration.
312 pages long as well……
I was the manager of the most Protestant and royalist club in Britain, at Glasgow Rangers, I respect McCleans right not to wear a poppy, it is his call, and his family should not be subject to threats, however he should have thought about that earlier when he started out on this (eh), and being from Londonderry , or Derry as some people refer to it, he might have family or friends who were affected back in the day, but the UK didnt get everything right there, and that thing that happened , that was one of those moments
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Was there someone on hand to put these words into a coherent statement ?
Wtf is the man saying ?!
HUNS AGM is on 6TH DECEMBER.
ART OF WAR on 7TH NOVEMBER 2022 3:06 PM
Big Jimmy, you should see the section devoted to what size of logos etc are allowed on shirts and shorts…..
They drown themselves in manure and dress it up as administration.
312 pages long as well……
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NO thanks mate, I get your drift.
LOL
HH.
Icarus is a black bitter tasting sweetie which, if not horrible enough, you can suck sherbet through hollowed out versions of it
BRRB 3.01pm
Shhoooosh
Probably that Friday was one of my most productive Fridays
I do the hard graft Tuesday-Thursday :-)
An Dun
Wtf is the man saying ?!
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I think he’s basically saying “The Famine’s over Why don’t you go home?” to James McLean.
VAR is going to be a hinderance to Celtic.
Mark my words.
mcgregor wtf.
https://twitter.com/i/status/1589244830739476480
Art of War
Thanks for Var posts.
Hope the injuries are healing and your improving.
In tech terms I do not get its implementation.
To me Var will only work when
1.real time(what ref is seeing) is shown firstly the foul
2.real time recordings of all mic’s from all officials.ie the convos determining rule/law broken and why var gave foul.
3.by real time I mean open to us to see why the foul is given
4.There is no need for the delays,in tech terms.none,zero.thats why it looks a mess,why not have a ref mic’d up asking rule 1,2,etc to check,and show it on bigscreen/or telly as check is ongoing
5.i would like to see the clock timed on var and automatically added to end.
Var still has a long way to go,but like with all tech we have an assumption of what var rules are/biases etc your post defines them.ta for such clarity
Hail Hail
Quadbhoy @ ages ago
Like offside, the rules have been changed so many times, interpretations are overtaken by misinterpretations, they should have left handball the way it was ball to hand or hand to ball. The Celtic decisions we obviously take personally but in the game at large outwith the team you support. the handball rule at present is nonsensical.
VAR picking up ‘penalties’ in nearly every game played compounds, the rule.
Oh…and IMO Gio will be out before AGM to allow the charlitans to appease & fleece der hun
SAINT STIVS on 7TH NOVEMBER 2022 3:41 PM
mcgregor wtf.
https://twitter.com/i/status/1589244830739476480
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I watched that McGregor CHUMP taking THAT ” FLAKEY” during the Huns game yesterday. It seems he was PROTESTING about the St Johnstone player, who was on the ground having the CHEEK to try and put the Ball in the Net, as the Ball was loose.
McGregor has a CHEEK complaining about any challenge on him, as it was HIM who almost took a Hibs players HEID AFF, after kicking the Ball upfield at the edge of his Penalty area.
McGregor ( Quite Rightly) got a STRAIGHT RED Card for that assault on the Hibs man.
The St Johnstones boot was nowhere near McGregor as they lay on the ground……McGregor was trying to CHEAT and get the St Johnstone player into bother with the Ref, for a NON EXISTANT Challenge……Simples !
HH mate.
Motherwell game not televised so available via PPV £15.00
https://ppv.motherwellfc.co.uk/
SAINT STIVS on 7TH NOVEMBER 2022 3:41 PM
mcgregor wtf.
https://twitter.com/i/status/1589244830739476480
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His reaction? Maybe he took some enhancements before the game, like strong tea with 3 sugars? Who knows?
I think that all these VAR ‘teething problems’ will be ironed out if, as it looks like Sevco implode, and we go ahead by double figures, funny that.
I hear we’re signing a new Greek Centre Back in January .
Venus De Milo .