Under the current rules, the Dundee United penalty on Saturday was a correct decision, as was the yellow card to Alexandro Bernabei. If your arm is away from your body and the ball hits it, a foul is committed. If this happens inside the box with VAR in attendance, this should lead to a penalty. Outside the box, VAR will seldom intervene, so ridiculous examples of the genre, like Alexandro’s on Saturday, are less likely to be punished. Fifa and VAR have inverted the ‘Outside the box it’s a foul all day’ rule.
The yellow card was also correct, if the arm stops an attempt at goal, a caution should be issued. Taken in total, these rules will lead to game being decided by a high proportion of random events inside the penalty area. Our experience in Madrid last week, where despite a good early showing, we were out of the contest due to penalties that would not have met the required criteria a few years ago, will happen again.
Defenders will also face increased jeopardy when on a yellow card. Previously, they could make sure they did not get involved in an incident that would lead to a second yellow, but there is little can be done to prevent a ball changing direction towards you and hitting an arm when you are jumping, landing or twisting your body.
Corner kicks and long balls into the box will become more dangerous than ever before. We will see the ridiculous scenario, where defenders jump and move around the box with their arms straight down, or behind their back, while attackers have the freedom to leverage their arms. Hopefully the World Cup will be determined by such an event, ushering in a rapid rethink.
Yesterday, according to the referee, already-booked Hearts keeper, Craig Gordon, fouled Motherwell’s Louis Molt, who was clean through with only the keeper to beat. The referee failed to show Craig a second yellow card. I am not convinced it was a penalty kick in the first place, but if it was, not sending Craig off goes against the rules. We need referees and VAR observers who can make better decisions, but as a Celtic fan, you have known that for generations! *(not mentioning our visit to Tynecastle).
It was a great weekend that again proved how football often pivots on fine margins. Seven points is a huge advantage, provides Celtic with breathing space and puts pressure on the also-rans who are now besieged. Two years ago, it was Celtic and Neil Lennon in the spotlight. It’s easier to look in from the outside and see the clear and obvious mistakes that happen when things are not going your way. We’ll explore this tomorrow.
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PAUL67 is only half right.
Yes under the current rules, it WAS a penalty.
If the ball strikes a player’s arm/hand and the arm is in a natural position — as Alexandro’s arm was, due to him jumping for the ball — it’s not a penalty…
UNLESS
…the ball is heading towards the goal, ie on target, in which case it is a penalty and a yellow card.
Dundee United were correctly awarded a penalty — under the rules — because his arm denied a possible goal.
Adi
Wee minty(one hundred pence) bet Gio will be sitting smiling on a telly panel,hun free, smiling and commenting on a world cup.
Got a feeling they may continue wi the point dropping.
Some internecine hun squabbling when bored during world cup to look forward to
On the other hand ….maybe not.
GLENDALYSTONSILS
That was Barkas
BRRB…
My Favourite Jumps TRAINER for the last 30 years or so had FIVE Horses running Today.
THREE Winners and one was 2nd…with the last one in a different Post Code from the winner.
The Prices were…11/2, 15/8 and 13/8.
So I had a Good wee Profit for my Singles, Doubles and a TREBLE.
his Horses are just running into FORM I beleive, so I will be backing every Horse that he runs.
LOL
HH Mate.
Next AGM
the guy who complained about the drum being too noisy has a new target – screechin weans
https://twitter.com/i/status/1588896922756341761
Got a ticket fir Fir Park on Wednesday.
Our supporters bus — Leith CSC — is hosting 8 German football fans for the trip to Motherwell, supporters of St Pauli FC. They are bringing a St Pauli/Celtic banner with them.
Art of War
Might I suggest that if you were looking to become a multi moniker poster you could do a lot worse than choose
Art of Var?
Celticmac
2 wee things my friend
a)see the court case still commented on over in sfm
b)if your lookin for a ticket Cmac,shout here and see what happens.:-)
Hail Hail
Scots beer giant Brewdog has announced itself as the anti-sponsor of the 2022 Qatar World Cup.
CEO James Watt announced the move earlier due to the controversy that has surrounded Qatar’s hosting of the competition. The campaign begins this week, featuring posters and print ads that call out alleged corruption engulfing the tournament and reported human rights abuses in Qatar.
6.500 MIGRANT Workers have died so far, since Quatar were awarded the World Cup.
……..
I saw a News Report Today about Gary Neville being a Commentator at this years World Cup, whilst saying that he would raise the subject of Quatars LAWS at the same time.
HE Chaired the BBC Programme last night ” Have I got news for you”, and was asked by Regular Ian Hyslot….” IF YOU ( GARY NEVILLE) object SO MUCH to the LAWS in Quatar….WHY are you taking QUATAR MONEY for Commentating ?
HH.
QATAR….not Quatar.
silly me.
HYSLOP…Not Hyslot
Art of War
Or……. Moniker Lewinsky.
setting free the bears for Res. 12 & Oscar Knox on 7th November 2022 2:07 pm
Quick quiz question- what reason do Celtic fans have for being grateful to Vladan Milojević?
Is he the Eintracht Frankfurt goalkeeper?
GARYGILLESPIESHAMSTRING on 7TH NOVEMBER 2022 4:49 PM
Art of War
Might I suggest that if you were looking to become a multi moniker poster you could do a lot worse than choose
Art of Var?
………………..
Good shout mate.
HH
GGH – Art of Var is my German multi.
Thanks for the chuckle
An Tearmann – thx, recovery coming along mate, just slow progress.
Wrote my mum’s eulogy last night for funeral Thursday. Bittersweet. Lovely memories sprang to mind and are now down on paper.
RIP Mum
When you were a wean,in winter you used to get gloves on a bit of string through the sleeves of your coat,make the string a wee bit tighter,and put them through the sleeves of a football jersey,to keep your hands from creating penalty opportunities for the cheating VAR officials
Bring back Viz…..
SFTB – good quiz question earlier.
Although I’d suggest our thanks should go to the AEK board.
Football club board making terrible appointments.
Whodathunkit?
Staying with SFTB – agree with earlier post on biggest scandal from Saturday.
Our player was assaulted in front of a ref standing 10 yards away with a clear view.
… and he didn’t even award a free kick !
Second biggest scandal (IMHO)
Straight red tackle on Kyogo seconds before full time whistle.
Didn’t even make the lowlights reel.
Erased from history.
VE VILL VIN this VAR…
Copyright…… Adolf Hitler 1939.
Chuckles.
Adolf Hitler was a HUN…….Nuff said.
Slightly ironic that Brew Dog are trying to gain a bit of good publicity by declaring themselves anti sponsors of the World Cup given the way that they are alleged to treat their workers.
Still not drinking brew dog products csc.
CELTICFOREVER on 7TH NOVEMBER 2022 12:27 PM
The main problem for me with VAR in Scotland is the hun scum who are in charge of it at every game
It was bad enough before having the referee and 2 assistants to contend with but now we have a couple of extra huns scrutinising every Celtic decision
They are getting 2 bites to the cherry on every Celtic decision
agree
Big Jimmy 😂
You mentioned it once but I think you got away with it.
HH
RC
100%
Agree on that comment regarding BrewDog,
that documentary about their employment practice and company culture was appaling.
their products are absolutely shite as well.
over priced trendy rubbish.
St Stivs
To be fair, not difficult to choose to boycott brewdog products as a matter of principle.
If it were Belhaven or another decent brewer I might have taken a bit longer to consider my position.
Tom
Guarantee bombed out for inflammatory banners. 🤣
“An indirect free-kick is awarded to the opposing team if a goalkeeper, inside his own penalty area, controls the ball with his hands for more than six seconds before releasing it from his possession,” say the rules. The law was introduced, initially, in 1997, and modified in 1998 to confirm that six seconds was the cut-off point.
does this rule still existed , if yes why is the rule never enforced
RC
Of course not. Its pish.
RC
It still exists – seems it isn’t enforced
GARYGILLESPIESHAMSTRING on 7TH NOVEMBER 2022 5:10 PM
Slightly ironic that Brew Dog are trying to gain a bit of good publicity by declaring themselves anti sponsors of the World Cup given the way that they are alleged to treat their workers.
Still not drinking brew dog products csc.
GGH correct.
pre covid I experienced 3 or 4 small hotel groups and a few big ones too.and all were outrageous at the way they treated staff. Giving them a rota of shifts ‘subject to change’ which generally meant if a function or do was not attended well staff got told to go home,if they complained they didn’t get a shift.Horrid hearing it,taking tea in the staffroom you hear their practices
Shifts docked that were worked
Money taken from cash tips and a) distributed in a top down way! Ie that bung you give staff at daughter’s wedding to manager may not trickle down,
If its cash there is a good chance it will be used to balance tills before any of it goes to staff.
The hospitality sector got £millions,a lot of staff get done over by them,and continue to do so.i am not a fan of the hospitality sector,personally years ago but I accompanied a couple of friends youngster’s in their query,the practices that went on where wrong.
Excuse the haver GGH.:-)
HH
TOM MCLAUGHLIN on 7TH NOVEMBER 2022 4:17 PM
PAUL67 is only half right.
Yes under the current rules, it WAS a penalty.
If the ball strikes a player’s arm/hand and the arm is in a natural position — as Alexandro’s arm was, due to him jumping for the ball — it’s not a penalty…
UNLESS
…the ball is heading towards the goal, ie on target, in which case it is a penalty and a yellow card.
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Where does it say that in the Laws of the Game?
A handball offence is defined in Law 12 as follows:
‘LAW 12…………………………
Handling the ball
For the purposes of determining handball offences, the upper boundary of the arm is in line with the bottom of the armpit. Not every touch of a player’s hand/arm with the ball is an offence.
It is an offence if a player:
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deliberately touches the ball with their hand/arm, for example moving the hand/arm towards the ball
•
touches the ball with their hand/arm when it has made their body unnaturally bigger. A player is considered to have made their body unnaturally bigger when the position of their hand/arm is not a consequence of, or justifiable by, the player’s body movement for that specific situation. By having their hand/arm in such a position, the player takes a risk of their hand/arm being hit by the ball and being penalised
•
scores in the opponents’ goal:
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directly from their hand/arm, even if accidental, including by the goalkeeper
•
immediately after the ball has touched their hand/arm, even if accidental……………………………’
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I think you’re getting muddled by the provision for what happens if a player scores a goal by an unintentional handball rather than denies a goal by an unintentional handball.
Who remember the rule that a goalkeeper with the ball in his hands could move no more than 4 steps?
heading home
phone in or not phone in, that is the question
Tom
It was introduced in the 70s I think
Good evening all from Paddy Neesons with my old pal Brian McLaughlin. He sends his regards to you all. Bloody rabble says he. 😂
AT
Spot on.
I never give tips by adding it on to the card payment for that very reason. Always give it to the servers.
I also try to avoid using places where they add a service charge to the bill.