Since Corinthians FC gave up the good fight football has largely been a brutish game. Even those supporters, who are unable to raise a limb with anything approaching athletic guile, often talk a brutish game. Now, in Scotland, the accountancy geeks are having their day.
The mere mention of the word ‘taxation’ has ears pricking up while the entire corporate accountancy system is now as much of the daily lexicon of football fans as the Laws of the Game. I reckon the law geeks will have their day soon.
I’d never heard of the crime ‘uttering’ until yesterday, now it’s all I hear from my Edinburgh sources. Uttering can broadly be defined as using a document you know to be forged. Don’t worry, it has nothing to do with Our Hero, just an observation for you.
On other matters, still no word from the SFA on the scope of their investigation into Rangers, or the position of their president relating to this matter. When respected mainstream journalists are making unchallenged assertions about improper registration of players, the SFA cannot choose to ignore these events. We know they are aware of the allegations, we know the allegations relate to the period when the SFA president was involved with Rangers. We just don’t know if the SFA are doing anything about them. A statement confirming that no one is immune from investigation would be a start.
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Hurley Burley on ESPN talkin’ porridge….
Anyway,back to the story £9million now = £15m,soon to = approx.£75m =liquidised fascist,criminal organisation.
bamboo says:
23 February, 2012 at 18:17
Someone on tv saying no european football for ranglers next season .
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The chances of Rangers overcoming the UEFA licensing hurdles (and there were many) were below zero. The media just wanted to keep the hope alive for as long as possible.
Rangers out of next year’s European competitions on 1 April.
That beats Sally’s record, doesn’t it?
Stripping the Huns of the 2003,2005 championships,and awarding them to Celtic,will in no way be adequate recompense for their criminal financial doping.
The financial cost to Celtic of being unjustly denied entry into the CL as worthy champions has damaged the development of the club into one of the leading brands in World Football.
Will we still be able to sue them for damages if they resurface as Banstead Billyboys FC ?
I can’t believe they are discussing rangers chances of playing in Europe next season on shortbread, wake up and smell the coffee for gods sake!
Vaultbhoy
Gordon_J backing Neil Lennon says:
23 February, 2012 at 18:26
You’ve almost got to feel sorry for the hun fans.
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hhhmmm, come on, if you feel sorry get back in there and make the pledge.
tal
Oh please my sides are aching.. Coming in from
Work what a laugh to hear more Rankers woes..
It’s cheered me up.. 15 million now on the last tax paye..
It’s like an auction..
Any bids higher… For the debts..
Hail Hail The Celts are here!!!!
HECTOR – Moonbeams WD. Kano 1000 \o/ Supporting Neil Lennon 100%. Eating Jelly & Ice Cream. says:
I’m beginning to really hero worship Craig Thomas Whyte .
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He has already achieved iconic status amongst the Celtic supporting youth demographic.
They see it in Biblical metaphors with SDM getting the John the Baptist gig and delivering his words to the LL, ‘ Out of Motherwell there will come a man whose wealth is off the radar. And I am not a fit and proper person to tie the laces of his brown brogues.’
£25,000 just pledged by Nick Leeson there! ;-)
Fun days indeed!
AoW
I can confirm that my £10M pledge to save the huns has been deleted! Well, it’s not been reported on the news anyway.
It’s going to be a busy night creating email accounts in the name of Billy, William etc
Mick-I did watch it and was at the game,get you now,agree lie down to no one.I dont think it will get to Poundland,they will lose and draw in next 2 or 3 games.
Saint Stivs,
Oh I’ve made my pledges on that website – under several different names.
Guys,
I could only afford to pledge a modest £500 but every little helps. Obviously I had to use my real name and email address of fraser.cameron@hotmail’com
Fish in a barrel
Jobo
Jobo Baldie says:
23 February, 2012 at 18:11
We have been up to mischief on it but Jungle Jim has put a downer on it by suggesting we have aided them by doing it because Snyde have put a positive spin on it…. ;)
JD
fritzsong
Bring me the head of John the Baptist.
ok laters mi amigos.
keep it lit.
I’ve just Front Loaded £25 mil to savehuns.com,a Mr K Dodd was on before me and stuck in a tenner.
He really is my Hero – Craig Whyte humped the huns better in 10 months than we managed in over a 100 years hehe love the guy
THE EXILED TIM says:
23 February, 2012 at 17:59
Happy St. Armageddon ‘s Day!
Back in an hour when I catch-up with the blog.
Looking for a favour.
Anyone know the phone number of Babbity Bowsters in Glasgow.
0141-???-????
Staggering revelations on BBC
Do you get the feeling this is the tip of the iceberg
Jabba ,Chico,et al on shortbread at new St Miren park in discussion with fans
Hunguffery is astounding
How to explain to a Rangers supporter the difference between Celtic changing their name post Fergus and staying Celtic and Rangers coming back under another name.
Take a liquidiser to work and an orange (maybe a few to get the point across.) and an apple.
Point to the orange and say “This is an orange”
Drop it into the liquidiser and switch on. Pour results into a glass and point to it and say
“This is not an orange”,
Put another orange in its solid form beside the glass to make the point. An orange—-Not an orange.
Then repeat the process with an apple except do not switch on the liquidiser. Remove apple after a few minutes and say “this is still an apple”.
If that does not work drink the orange juice, perhaps with a dash of Smirnoff, just for the joy of it.
Bring me the Head of Campbell Ogilvie.
Whats this I’m hearing that the saverangers.com is another Whyte\Murray enterprs :oD
The Legend Johnny Doyle says:
23 February, 2012 at 18:36
Jobo Baldie says:
23 February, 2012 at 18:11
We have been up to mischief on it but Jungle Jim has put a downer on it by suggesting we have aided them by doing it because Snyde have put a positive spin on it…. ;)
JD
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surely though, surely, as soon as they announce its ok, savetherangers is not up to £100m we are saved , saved i tell ye,
and then they say, ok, let go get them funds …………
“WHAT WE BEEN TRICKED, NOT US, NOT AGAIN”
“saverangers” is one of the most desperate things you’ll ever see & Snyde are just as desperate,biggin’ it up. This has all gone from farce to pure comedy!
discussions on Rangers on Clyde and Shortbread have started to take on Pythonesque overtones.
Chances of European football for Rangers?????
Guys: “This is a dead parrot!!!!”
How do you check the pledge list on saverangers?
Reading that list may be a giggle
Oldtim67
0141 552 5055
Craig whyte may be in there as you need to be a Billionare to buy drink
Can we get a statue of wee bug eyed Craig Whyte outside Parkhead for all the help he has given in toppling Rangers ? H.H.
miki67
What you talking about..its had £5million pledged in 24 hours!!
hi.Dia daoibh.
im a daily lurker on CQN and rarely post due to the fact that im barely
cyber-literate.however,i did post yesterday about politial support waning for
rankers and we,ve seen evidence of that today already.
none of the same utterings from salmond as we had last week
on a different matter, can anyone help,can you follow the posts on here
automatically as they come in?i have to keep going back to the previous
page then back to the live page,any help would be much appreciated
ádh mór
Babbity Bowsers TEL: 0141 552 5055 http://www.babbitybowster.com
The Singing Detective says:
23 February, 2012 at 18:28
Here is the case as I see it (from earlier)note the final para that agrees with you.
I was listeningto Darryl King on Clyde last night trying to say why titles should not be taken away. He steered the argument towards what Rangers did was misuse the tax rules which was not criminal in its intent and different from an athlete for example taking drugs to win. In the latter case DK was for taking away the medals/titles.
In his explanation he was either stupid or deliberately sneaky in trying to justify Rangers keeping theirs. He cannot be that stupid as not to make the connection between taking drugs to win and the term financial doping, so I think he knows fine well the principles at play and was being sneaky.
But just in case he was ignorant of the principle it is that by using EBTs Rangers acquired the services of players whom they would not otherwise been able to afford. This gave them a competitive advantage that translated in 2003 and 2005 into the narrowest title victories by a goal and a point respectively. The EBT contributions in both years were moving to their highest point.
What Rangers did was use money that was not theirs and which they seem hell bent on avoiding paying back, to gain competitive advantage. The principle behind a 10 point deduction for entering administration is that the club concerned, by spending what it was not its to spend because it could not afford that level of spend, had the services of players that won points that might not otherwise have been won, such services giving them competitive advantage.
So applying the competitive advantage gained principle behnd the 10 points deduction Rangers should be deducted 10 points for both seasons and so be stripped of the 2003 and 2005 titles (if HMRC get the verdict of course).
In 2007 Rangers moved from an EBT policy to a debt one and as all clubs use debt it is harder to argue those titles should be removed, especially as FFP was only a dot on the footbal horizon at that time.
However there is an argument that rather than use debt to pay players, Rangers should have used their income to meet the tax bill, although in 2007 that too would be a dot, if that ,on the horizon.
Having said that, such is the damage they have caused our game by not only using other peoples money but their ongoing attempts not to repay it and meet their corporate responsibilities, there is a case for simply removing those titles since 2009 as a punishment but not reassigning them.
Both actions 10 points deduction for 2003 and 2005 and punishment for damage to our game would not be a reason to allow or justify an SPL parachute, simply natural justice and the consequences thereof asserting itself.
Nor would a Div Three start place for a Newco scenario be a reason to leave the titles, especially 2003 and 2005, in place.
In a Newco situation there are different principles at play affecting two different clubs – Oldco and Newco and the issues should be kept separate and dealt with as such, not one traded against the other as a bargaiining chip. Rangers are in no position to bargain.
Hun on SSB asking about the debentures. When are they due to be repaid and are they safe?
Did they not become repayable on Administration?
oh god ive busted a rib.
big mazonic penny dropped from the club deck.
“does this mean we will lose our debentures”
aye and your falsies.
While spirits are high & the laughter increases I would advise all CQN,rs to avoid radio shortbread at the moment.
Some live show with Jabba & Chick pleading for financial tolerance regards the money the huns owe to other clubs.
Jabba reckons they ” could pay the money back when they return to a position of strength”.
Givemestrengthcsc.