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Surprised we got two in yesterday, as Manchester City under-grad, Jason Denayer, signed for a year-long loan last night.  The 19-year-old has yet to play first team football so is likely to be considered as backup at Celtic, though reports are promising.

Not surprised that Legia Warsaw have lodged an appeal to Uefa to be re-instated into the Champions League, they have to try everything possible.  It has not been confirmed what ground Legia have appealed on, however, at the weekend, Polish FA chief exec, Zbigniew Boniek, suggested an appeal would be made on two grounds:

That only one member of the UEFA Control, Ethics and Disciplinary Body was at the hearing to made the decision, and

That Legia were not given the chance to make a submission to the Body.

There are 10 members of the Disciplinary Body and rules state that decisions require the attendance of at least three, unless the case is “urgent”, when a decision can be taken by one member.  To defend their process, Uefa need to insist that the circumstances were urgent, probably citing the Champions League play-off draw, which was due to take place two hours later.

While the Disciplinary Body allow submissions to be made prior to a hearing, Article 34 authorises the Body to undertake a hearing without submissions and “in the absence of one or all of the parties”.

In the unlikely event Legia won an appeal on procedural grounds, a subsequent hearing, perhaps with more Disciplinary Body members in attendance, would take place, and would inevitably reach the same conclusion.

Article 21, paragraph 2, of the Uefa Disciplinary Regulations state, “A match is declared forfeit if a player who has been suspended following a disciplinary decision participates in the match.”  There is no ambiguity or lateral for the Disciplinary Body to exercise a different reprimand.

Legia’s appeals can carry on all the way to the Court of Arbitration for Sport but Celtic will not be involved in any future issues.  NK Maribor represent a vastly, vastly, greater risk to their Champions League aspirations.

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  1. The Comfortable Collective on

    I wonder what odds the bookies would give on a mutually convenient solution to Uefa, Legia Warsaw and Celtic for the outcome to be a

     

     

    One off match played in, say, Brussels, to take place on say Wednesday 20th August . . . Hmmm

  2. Quonno

     

     

    There genuinely should be one of those appeal if you have new information but we ll throw you out of the Europa league if it’s facetious….

     

     

    Why indulge them, hold up the draw etc for an emotional window dressing exercise that indulges their own fans only

  3. Tallybhoy

     

     

    Can you imagine the problems that match would cause for any city hosting it with the nutters in their support ?

     

     

    Really bored of this nonsense now tbh…

  4. Neil canamalar Lennon hunskelper extrordinaire on

    Quite simply Legia got caught cheating and should have been expelled from UEFA competition, UEFA need to increase the punishment to make sure chancers like Legia pay attention to the rules.

  5. KDS at 13:05

     

    Keevins’ clearly intentional lie.

     

     

    When was that and how do you challenge such a blatant lie?

     

     

    Rangers died and did go out of business, only to be replaced by new club Sevco, leaving many creditors and bad debts.

     

     

    Hearts did not die, entered, then exited administration, and remain the same club and business having paid their dues and served their punishments, (points deduction and transfer embargo etc).

     

     

    There is absolutely no correlation between both scenarios. Apples and oranges.

     

     

    Scottish MSM are truly disgusting.

     

     

    EC67

  6. Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_Noo on

    Neil canamalar Lennon hunskelper extrordinaire

     

    17:36 on

     

    12 August, 2014

     

    Quite simply Legia got caught cheating and should have been expelled from UEFA competition, UEFA need to increase the punishment to make sure chancers like Legia pay attention to the rules.

     

     

    Man I am happy that you are the main man for Resolution 12

     

     

    HH

  7. Just Another Tim, some teams do have players on£30k and some on £200, but those at the lower end are juniors, I mean 22 year olds still learning their trade and they command silly money transfer fees. Our juniors are on, what? £3-4k, so in relative terms our senior players earn 8-10 times more. Same as with teams paying £200k.

     

     

    We live in a different world to those clubs.

  8. Neil canamalar Lennon hunskelper extrordinaire on

    Awe_Naw..,

     

    As I said its the same as playing a ringer/unregistered player end off IMO

  9. The Daily Rangers spouting lies ,the polish woman who made the error, getting death threats, same old tripe,trying to discredit our club, if there is 1 thing Celtic Football Club should do is tell the media , they are no longer welcome at our club.and that includes the BBC Sportcene mob.

  10. JFP

     

     

    the numbers of youth squad/academy players which make it to the first team is shocking in the England (4%)!). I hope Scotland can lead the way in getting talent into teams especially ours.

  11. Cannae sleep!!!!

     

     

    Was in the Celtic shop in Argyle Street earlier and asked the sales guy about three new tops/strips for the grand-weans for the new season….’No problem sir, how would you like to pay for that, cash or card?’……..

     

    ‘Well, chief here’s the thing, I’ve got a few bob salted away but would like to save it for upcoming weddings, holidays etc., so I was thinking, what about a loan deal eh!’ I’ll pay you the fiver cover charge re the cost of having the strips made in S.E. Asia and I’ll take full responsibility for washing and ironing throughout the season eh! And if the weans want to keep them at the end of the season, I will pay the full RRP. And if they don’t, well I’ll return them and you can loan them out again next year. What do you think? ’.. ‘Oh and while we are at it, the oldest grandson fancies himself as a goalie and I see you have a goalie top from 2010-11 that’s never gonnae be sold , so what’s the story with that’……

     

     

    ’A customer in Sunderland ordered and paid for it but never collected’

     

     

    ‘Brilliant’, says me………How about throwing that in as a free?

     

     

    ‘I’ll just get the manager’

     

     

    ‘Hello’…

     

    ’Aye Hello’…………..

     

     

    Manager guy ‘My assistant has just relayed your suggestion to me sir but I’m sorry we cannot comply with your request’…………..

     

     

    TBM ‘How no? Fitba teams dae it aw the time’

     

     

    Manager guy ‘Yes but we are not a football team we are a business’….

     

     

    OK…………I’ll leave you my email address and you can get back to me eh! TAL

     

     

    Regards & Hail Hail

     

    TBM

  12. Ronny confirmed in his press conference they were both his signings – looks like Jason will go straight into the team tomorrow night.

  13. Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_Noo on

    Canamalar

     

     

    I think ringer is the wrong word. You know your playing a ringer. The polish official made a mistake which Legia are paying a very heavy price. Celtic too make no mistake about it.

     

     

    HH

  14. squire danaher on

    joe filippis haircut

     

     

    17:11 on 12 August, 2014

     

     

    Good post m8

     

     

    Sort out the Buster Bradys

     

     

    Their problem is that they don’t know what a day’s work is

  15. the glorious balance sheet on

    Joe Filippis Haircut:-

     

     

    The point you made about the Celtic team tiring in the last 30 minutes of the Legia games. There isn`t anything new in that. We`ve been doing that in Europe for some time. Its even worse than the habit we used to have of always conceding goals early on in away matches.

     

     

    Look at how many times we have crumbled in the last few years.

     

     

    2005 – Artmedia 5, Celtic 0 – (3 goals conceded in the last 15 minutes)

     

    2008 – Aalborg 2, Celtic 1 – (2 goals conceded in the last 15 minutes)

     

    2009 – Hapoel 2, Celtic 1 – (2 goals conceded in the last 15 minutes)

     

    2010 – Braga 3, Celtic 0 – (2 goals conceded in the last 15 minutes)

     

    2011 – Sion 3, Celtic 1 – (clinching goal conceded in the last 15 minutes)

     

    2012 – Barcelona 2, Celtic 1 – (decisive goal conceded in injury time)

     

    2013 – Karagandy 2, Celtic 0 – (2nd goal conceded in the last 15 minutes)

     

    2013 – Milan 2, Celtic 0 – (2 goals conceded in the last 15 minutes)

     

    2014 – Legia Warsaw 4, Celtic 1 – (2 goals and 1 penalty conceded in the last 15 minutes)

     

     

    The Barca game you can make allowances for. Sion and Warsaw we played long periods for ten men. But there seems to be a long standing fitness and mentality issue when we come up against European opposition.

  16. first of the gang to die on

    was on the bearsden website there,makes ff look like an episode of playschool.has to be seen to be believed.25th of october ibrox will be openinig its faulty gates for a halloween nightwalk to celebrate halloween. registration fee ten quid,kids under eight five quid.anyone over nine years old should try and raise at least fifty quid,anybody who raises over one hundred quid gets a medal from a player. will be for allys mismanagement pay off.

     

     

    theres a thread,get ally out and its into at least 110 pages long.fighting amongst themselves,bit like on here.we should be better than that,we used to be on here.

  17. glendalystonsils on

    fieldofdrams

     

     

    17.24

     

     

     

    Thanks for posting what I already felt. There are some posters with an agenda who I’m sure are deliberately misspelling our managers name (not P67 obviously) in an attempt to belittle him. An extremely hunnish thing to do.

  18. Joe Filippis Haircut on

    the glorious balance sheet. I think it proves the point about a lack of fitness its been going on in Scottish football for years.Rony and JC are going to try and change it at Celtic and I wish them well. H.H.

  19. Joe Fillipi

     

    do you seriously think that the celtic side who were defeated in one league game last season were unfit?

     

     

    glorious balance sheet

     

    very interesting stats indeed but maybe not all these goals conceded were due to lack of fitness, perhaps some of the goals conceded were due to lack of quality?

  20. glendalystonsils on

    I hope RD and JC take a strong line on the fitness and work ethic thing. Ship out anyone who tries to stir up a Hibs type mutiny.

  21. squire danaher on

    Tamrabam

     

     

    Celtic have played the past 4 years at least at a funereal pace

     

     

    Their fitness levels are atrocious

     

     

    Lennon let them away wi murder

  22. Tgbs,

     

     

    I’m not disagreeing that we crumble from time to time but there’s a pile of European games over the last good few years where we’ve clinched the game late on too.

  23. Captain Beefheart on

    Timbhoy,

     

     

    Surely even The Retard aren’t spinning that that is the fault of Celtic men?

     

     

    Threats from us to Marta:

     

     

    Roses sent to her.

     

     

    Chocolates.

     

     

    A thousand thank yous.

  24. the glorious balance sheet on

    Tamrabam-

     

     

    Fair point but I think the two are interlinked.

     

     

    If the team is poor quality they don’t build from the back, cant retain possession, possession given cheaply to the opposition who are better at retaining the ball and have us chasing shadows for much of the game resulting in us getting tired in the latter stages.

  25. Squire,

     

     

    No doubt lennon learned a lot from Mon.

     

     

    There’s a few managers who have questioned the players fitness after Mon has moved on.

  26. Joe Filippis Haircut on

    Tamrabam. In Scotland where there is a culture of finishing training at lunch time the lack of fitness is not as noticeable however,it is cruelly exposed in Europe who have a different culture. H.H.

  27. Delaneys Dunky on

    Desertbhoy

     

     

    No bud, I am working in Macclesfield, will be at Paradise on Saturday.

     

    You going to Saint John’s toon tomorrow?

  28. the glorious balance sheet on

    Geordie Munro-

     

     

    I give you Man Utd, Donetsk, Milan, Karagandy,Spartak Moscow. Cant think of any more than that.

     

     

    Worth flagging also the Rapid Vienna away game where we came back to draw 3-3 at the death.

     

     

    The losses I`ve flagged up above are generally complete capitulations in the latter stages or games where we`ve thrown away a 1-0 lead to modest opposition only to ship twice in the last 15 minutes to slump to defeat.

     

     

    Overall I think its fair to say that we tend to lose more games in Europe in the latter stages than we win.

  29. bognorbhoy oscar in my thoughts on

    Captain Beefheart

     

     

    gonnae no use that word ..

     

     

    call that paper something else…

     

     

    HH

  30. squire danaher on

    Geordie

     

     

    Remember the bhoy Atajic went away to lower league in England and his lack of fitness was so poor he needed a preseason

     

     

    Same with another January loanee I seem to recall.

     

     

    Compare them to the GAA lhads, come on McGuinness, get the big stick to them

  31. Neil canamalar Lennon hunskelper extrordinaire on

    Awe_Naw..,

     

    You think if it was treated with the same punishment it would make a difference ?

     

    We only have their word that it was a mistake and their interpretation of the rules doesn’t instil much confidence that they are behaving or behaved honourably. For whatever reason it’s all our fault how does that work ?

  32. Joe Filippis Haircut on

    squire danahher. Tony Watt was another who went out on loan but was said to be unfit by the Belgian clubs manager. H.H.

  33. awe_naw_no_annoni_oan_anaw_noo

     

     

    17:07 on 12 August, 2014

     

     

    Wonder if legia will refuse to play there Europa game ?

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