Surprised we got two in yesterday, as Manchester City under-grad, Jason Denayer, signed for a year-long loan last night. The 19-year-old has yet to play first team football so is likely to be considered as backup at Celtic, though reports are promising.
Not surprised that Legia Warsaw have lodged an appeal to Uefa to be re-instated into the Champions League, they have to try everything possible. It has not been confirmed what ground Legia have appealed on, however, at the weekend, Polish FA chief exec, Zbigniew Boniek, suggested an appeal would be made on two grounds:
That only one member of the UEFA Control, Ethics and Disciplinary Body was at the hearing to made the decision, and
That Legia were not given the chance to make a submission to the Body.
There are 10 members of the Disciplinary Body and rules state that decisions require the attendance of at least three, unless the case is “urgent”, when a decision can be taken by one member. To defend their process, Uefa need to insist that the circumstances were urgent, probably citing the Champions League play-off draw, which was due to take place two hours later.
While the Disciplinary Body allow submissions to be made prior to a hearing, Article 34 authorises the Body to undertake a hearing without submissions and “in the absence of one or all of the parties”.
In the unlikely event Legia won an appeal on procedural grounds, a subsequent hearing, perhaps with more Disciplinary Body members in attendance, would take place, and would inevitably reach the same conclusion.
Article 21, paragraph 2, of the Uefa Disciplinary Regulations state, “A match is declared forfeit if a player who has been suspended following a disciplinary decision participates in the match.” There is no ambiguity or lateral for the Disciplinary Body to exercise a different reprimand.
Legia’s appeals can carry on all the way to the Court of Arbitration for Sport but Celtic will not be involved in any future issues. NK Maribor represent a vastly, vastly, greater risk to their Champions League aspirations.
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I’m sure when WGS arrived he introduced double training sessions as the fitness levels where so bad. I seem to remember we looked so much fitter than domestic opposition especially in the last quarter of games.
HH
/Bishop B
Didn’t WGS have a strict fitness code ?
Chances are the threats to the Legia lassie came from their new found Glaswegian friends
The Lisbon Lions finished training early, and a lot of them went bevvying most days.
Legia are lucky to be playing any European football…
Kikinthenakas
If RD does nothing else than improve the fitness and professionalism of his charges and fast tracks the best of the youth, then he will have done us a great service.
We are stuck in the 80s with our approach to professional football.
The Europa Cup is where we will gain invaluable experience.
The CL group, whilst it would be a feather in our cap, we are just not ready for it Nd would be counter productive.
One reason why we are taking in loans just now is that the wage bill is bloated with salaries going to players who gave no future at the club and will be hard to shift.
Livingston get a transfer embargo as they cant pay HMRC………………..?
One of the things I have always liked about football compared to other sports is that a team of fatty’s , let’s call it a CQN X1 , could beat a team of steroid induced cheats.
Romour Bagwash on STV said Boruc and Dziekanowski are backing Legia’s appeal
Bobby Russell – fitness was one of the key elements of the lions success. I know some were fond of a drink but they certainly did not drink most days. Later in life some had serious problems – poor jinky and bobby in particular.
Canamalar
No they made a simple mistake from which their opponents benefited. I don’t see any way back for them. There only chance was Celtic agreeing with them and then hoping that a UEFA official would then ratify that and accepting it … which I don’t think he necessarily would have. Precedent etc ? But Celtic never gave them the chance so its a moot point.
Make no mistake about it though everybody in Germany who associates me with Celtic. That is everybody. Of many different nationalities ages and backgrounds are entirely unimpressed by Celtics desire not to get involved at the disciplinary stage and see it as cynical from us.
HH
Bobby Russell. That was 47 years ago things have changed a lot in football since then dont you think ? H.H.
Money received in past 2 years that we didn’t budget for, aiming to leave every transfer window stronger & and would be reinvested in the playing squad I believe.
2012/13 CL £31M (Incl gate receipts)
2013/14 CL £21M (” ” “)
Hooper, (£6.5M) Wanyama (£12.5M), Ki (£6M), Foster (£10M), Watt £1.2M), Ledley (£800K) = £37M
Total =£89m
Our Wage bill 2012/13=£40M/€50M //Eg. 2014 Valencia=€45m, Seville=€41m,
http://www.tsmplug.com/football/spanish-la-liga-players-salaries/
From ESPN Global we are 167 best payers in team sports ahead of Borussia, Sampdoria, Real Sociedad, Udinese, Parma, Real Betis etc etc outwith the Ponzi Scheme of EPL/Championship we should be doing a lot better that we currently are in attracting talent from these markets imo!
http://espn.go.com/espn/story/_/id/10709445/sportingintelligence-global-salary-survey-espn-magazine%3E
According to Celtic’s Accounts – 30 June 2013.
Average home league attendance Year 2013: (No.) 46,754; 2012 49,019;
2011 49,719; 2010 53,228; 2009 57,570
Season ticket sales (no.) This 2014/14 Season CQN posters 37,000+; 2013 41,716
2012 44,975; 2011 44,734; 2010 50,826; 2009 54,252;
From our CEO Annual Report 2013 he quites “We have created
a world class scouting system, which is assisting player
identification and recruitment at all levels”
I find the above statement surprising given our recruitment of a new manager and new (loan) signings this season.
Dermot Desmond £25k per year (so 68 season ticket holders at £366/ticket are required to pay for this!)
Does anyone know are we are getting value for money when bench marked with other clubs eg Legia, Ajax, Benfica etc?
What i cant understand is the fact that we require as many fans to attend games as possible given that’s where the bulk of our revenue comes from. Yet it appears we aren’t going to take advantage of this second chance to access £20m+ from the CL & we don’t seem bothered!
The daily rate to attend a match at Celtic Park is still £29, its overpriced and on that basis values an average season ticket at £600+. If it was £20 its the peripheral spend that all adds up, windfall ticket, food & drink, programme, merchandise etc. Maybe our Board is so out of touch with the ordinary fan that they don’t care. What are they doing about the product on the pitch and thereby attracting fans back to the stadium? We have gone from 54,252 season tickets to 37,500 in 5 seasons a 31% drop!
Oh well onwards & downwards…
Tgbs,
Elfsborg was with less than 15 remaining. Dynamo Moscow and watts goal that turned out to be the winner v barca was late on ;)
And I’ve still no went nearly as far back as you ;p
Bada bing – that’s us feked then…
We will beat Maribor over two legs.
The way Maribor are being talked up on here and elsewhere is frankly extraordinary. I have never heard fatalism like it in 45 years of following Celtic.
Think of the truly stellar scalps we have taken through the years – but the prospect of facing mighty Maribor has us turning our faces to the wall. FFS!
Ronny Deila will win the staring contest that is apparently going on now, and will get the team playing to his blueprint. Those who feel unable to join the programme will be out.
By Christmas we will all be happy. Out of the CL, but happy with the progress made.
This is a complete culture change for the team. Deila wants them to be faster, fitter and more direct.
The consensus on here over recent years was that we were tired and bored of static Celtic sides’ crab-like sideways passing and slow, laboured, predictable attacks.
Changing the culture was always going to be a huge, difficult task, not achieved overnight. People broadly acknowledged that two months ago. But now, four games in, it’s DEILA OUT.
Legia was the f******g train crash to end all train crashes, no two ways about it. It was also a wake-up call, not just to RD and JC but to every player pulling on the shirt.
That’s why we will beat Maribor.
HH
The chasm between the support and the board is growing ever bigger IMO.
When do the suits communicate with us?
What is our plan?
The silence unfortunately is deafening.
This results in some wild speculation and endless conjecture.
We need leadership, not bean counters.
We need leadership with a vision.
Someone hijak Fergus on Saturday and get him to make us out a plan!
thomthethim
Europa League is hit or miss.
The Italian, English and Spanish teams routinely put out second string sides in the group stages of that competition.
Looking at the seeding list we could conceivably be drawn against Fiorentina Reserves in Pot 1, we would be pot 2, Sheriff Tiraspol of Moldova, Pot 3, and Estoril in Pot 4.
We wouldn`t learn much from that or get a fair reflection of where we are in the grand scheme of things.
Plus league fixtures would be shunted to the Sunday.
We are told that finances are paramount, that we need all the money we can get. Therefore we cannot be turning our noses up at the Champions League and the £20 million it brings.
http://shortme.us/news.php?url=ally-mccoist-leaves-rangers-99604
Awe_Naw..,
Strange that, everyone here see it the opposite way, the rules are the rules and if you can’t play by them then you shouldn’t be playing.
As I said if the punishment was in line with treating it like a ringer then there’d be no argument or deliberate misinterpretation of the rule. IMO it is very similar to playing a ringer in fact worse, a banned player is deliberately expelled until the ban is lifted. Not knowing who is banned or when the ban is up is bullshit.
There was an excellent analogy with golf offered
Geordie Munro:-
Aye but though we beat Barca they scored a consolation goal in injury time! Shocking so it was! :)
Agreed we have won a fair number of tight games late on. But there`s so many games where we don`t just lose the game but we ship 2, 3 goals in the latter stages.
Aw_Naw…
Yer a bad man :-)
!!bada bing!!
18:24 on 12 August, 2014
Oh well if they two are backing legia we better just let them back in, don’t want them not loving us anymore haha if they don’t like it to bad HH
we are in danger of making the assertion that a player who can run faster is a better player than one who cant. There is a damn sight more to being a good player than being a good runner.
Doc
17:44 on
12 August, 2014
Just Another Tim, some teams do have players on£30k and some on £200, but those at the lower end are juniors, I mean 22 year olds still learning their trade and they command silly money transfer fees. Our juniors are on, what? £3-4k, so in relative terms our senior players earn 8-10 times more. Same as with teams paying £200k.
We live in a different world to those clubs.
_________________
I see what you are saying. It seems it is all relative to how much income a particular club has. It would be interesting to see if our approach was to change in the future, if we were to increase our income from joining an Atlantic League or revamped European competition. Let’s face it, we are never going to get enough money from an SPFL Tv deal to make any significant impact to our finances.
“Not knowing who is banned or when the ban is up is bullshit”
Nail hit firmly on the head.
Ok Bognor bhoy. It is a habit. HH.
Tamrabam-
Lubo was a case in point. No pace, he didn’t need it.
Want to show Ronny Deila how it should be done? Think your better than Stein? Do you have the luck of Celtic or the administration talents of Legia? Then here is the invite code to the CQN Championship Fantasy Football League, we are now approaching 120 teams entered.
296638-123206
You have 4 days left to register your team & join the league.
http://fantasy.premierleague.com/
As an added incentive I’ve decided to offer some prizes for the top 3 come the end of the season. The winners will each receive items of their choosing from the Official Celtic Webstore to the tune of
1st £100
2nd £75
3rd £50
Or alternatively, winners can choose to donate any winnings to a Celtic charity of their choice.
Also if by some miracle I end up in the top 3, the winnings will be passed onto the next placed team.
HH
Canamalar,
Yeah I know. I have been protecting our name all week ..even against those that have no interest in football, whatsoever. It is newsworthy a team that got bum fu**ed home and away 6.1 get to go through to a possible 20m jackpot due to poor administration. I have been using your type of arguments but due to him coming on when the tie was well and truly won and in injury time proves that it was an unintentional oversight. Difficult to argue with. I became more convinced however after I read the Legia chairman open letter but I can entirely understand his frustration.
HH
Tamrabam
A good player who is fit and can run is better than just a good player though, no?
Tgbs,
I left an open goal for ye there. I knew you’d bury it ;)
I’m not disagreeing mate. Fitness needs improved and as you mentioned, fitness drops along with quality.
Real Madrid v Sevilla …… Sky Sports 5 …..kick-off 7.45
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bu2Tkq1IAAA3qQA.jpg:large
Broony back training, good to see.
HH
I find it hard to believe that it was a minor slip up legia made.
Also putting all the blame on that woman.
Everyone from directors to management and first team coaching staff would or should have known how long they would be without a first team player.
Also how it would affect selection and formations.
The manager etc have mostly all played pro football.
“we are in danger of making the assertion that a player who can run faster is a better player than one who cant.”
I’m not so sure tam.
I think most are saying it’d be better if the players we have weren’t lacking fitness.
Delia is just pirate pete,s lapdog,the cheapest option available
I hear RD saw Denayer against Dundee in pre season and was very impressed. Is RD his own man, I hope so. A striker is our top target now.
Keep the Faith!
Hail Hail!