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Surprised we got two in yesterday, as Manchester City under-grad, Jason Denayer, signed for a year-long loan last night.  The 19-year-old has yet to play first team football so is likely to be considered as backup at Celtic, though reports are promising.

Not surprised that Legia Warsaw have lodged an appeal to Uefa to be re-instated into the Champions League, they have to try everything possible.  It has not been confirmed what ground Legia have appealed on, however, at the weekend, Polish FA chief exec, Zbigniew Boniek, suggested an appeal would be made on two grounds:

That only one member of the UEFA Control, Ethics and Disciplinary Body was at the hearing to made the decision, and

That Legia were not given the chance to make a submission to the Body.

There are 10 members of the Disciplinary Body and rules state that decisions require the attendance of at least three, unless the case is “urgent”, when a decision can be taken by one member.  To defend their process, Uefa need to insist that the circumstances were urgent, probably citing the Champions League play-off draw, which was due to take place two hours later.

While the Disciplinary Body allow submissions to be made prior to a hearing, Article 34 authorises the Body to undertake a hearing without submissions and “in the absence of one or all of the parties”.

In the unlikely event Legia won an appeal on procedural grounds, a subsequent hearing, perhaps with more Disciplinary Body members in attendance, would take place, and would inevitably reach the same conclusion.

Article 21, paragraph 2, of the Uefa Disciplinary Regulations state, “A match is declared forfeit if a player who has been suspended following a disciplinary decision participates in the match.”  There is no ambiguity or lateral for the Disciplinary Body to exercise a different reprimand.

Legia’s appeals can carry on all the way to the Court of Arbitration for Sport but Celtic will not be involved in any future issues.  NK Maribor represent a vastly, vastly, greater risk to their Champions League aspirations.

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  1. I agree that there is evidence of hysteria on the blog in recent days.

     

     

    Hysteria ; “thought to occur more frequently in women than in men”

     

    (Concise Oxford Dictionary)

     

     

    That explains it then.

     

     

    Stoap they wummin postin’!!

  2. Ron, do you know of any other blogs that might be an alternative to this one?

     

     

    Serious question.

     

     

    I think Paul should try and get an interview of sorts, though….

  3. the glorious balance sheet on

    Rioskorrie 16:04

     

     

    A good strike rate for signing players – well I posted last night that over 50% of the 11 players signed by Gordon Strachan in his first year as Celtic manager had gone by the end of his first season.

     

     

    We were able to live with a relatively poor success rate in terms of incoming transfers at that time because:

     

     

    1. The team he inherited had some seasoned accomplished experienced players who had seen and done it all in Europe and remained mainstays – Hartson and Lennon – and upcoming young talents – McGeady and Maloney.

     

     

    2. The signings that worked out – Boruc and Nakamura – were huge successes.

     

     

    I don`t think Ronny is quite as well served that way. Brown and maybe Lustig are as close as we`ll get to Hartson and Lennon in the current squad and both are injury prone. Upcoming young talents who have made a name for themselves in the team – Matthews and Forrest. But both again are injury prone. McGregor and Henderson may develop over time but its too early to say.

     

     

    So I`d say Ronny needs at least a 70% success rate in the transfer market, of which a couple need to be blockbuster successes. Its asking a lot, especially given the financial pressures he is hinting at re wages.

  4. Paul67 et al

     

     

    I guess Legia thinks it would be ok for, say, Barcelona to bring on a suspended Lionel Messi in a close match against say Arsenal in the final five minutes of a knockout CL tie>

     

    And why not?

  5. quonno

     

     

    16:32 on 12 August, 2014

     

     

    The reason Reid was on the board was because The Great Desmondo wanted some introductions in the US of A. Business, you understand.

     

     

    As to why South Americans players disproportionately go to Spain and Portugal, I think this is some of it.

     

     

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/21157572

  6. the glorious balance sheet on

    justafan 1605-

     

     

    You`re right, Kompany did play against us when he was 17. And we went 3-0 up on his team at Celtic Park after 20 minutes.

     

     

    Not that I`m saying he was solely responsible for that. Not at all. But it is the case that European football at CL level, even at qualification stage, is unforgiving and is no place for very young inexperienced defenders.

     

     

    By all means blood them in dead rubber group games. But its unfair to throw them into a defence that has shipped 6 goals in the last 2 European games.

  7. Ron Bacardi

     

    We are Celtic supporters Faithfull though and through, Over and Over we will follow you.

     

    Gonnae tell me how the Coach gets all the backlash, when players cannae come up with the basics, defenders cannae defend, players cannae pass ,and there is no fight or urgency, on the field of play.OK he may have got some of the tactics wrong,but bhoy the players let him and the fans down bigtime.

     

    I am not the first to say Gee the Man a chance,seen alot worse it ma day, also there are some on hear who need take a reality check, we are where we are and BTW I believe there is a team playing tonight that cost around £400 million.

     

    Awerabest PJ

  8. traditionalist88 on

    “This club, Celtic, is unbelievably huge but the TV money is not. This has to be run in the right way, like Celtic has done for many, many years and it will continue to.”

     

     

    Deila insisted that he had a vision for the team and plans for the market but said he wouldn’t disclose his ideas yet.

     

     

    ”In my head I know what I want,” he said. “I can’t tell you but if I get it then I will be very happy and I think the fans will be.”

  9. I would imagine Denayer to be a Delia signing. Ronnie spent time at Man City observing training methods etc as he did at Liverpool and Dortmund.

     

     

    Also I think he said he took in the Man City/Bayern youth European League game last season, aswell as the senior fixture.

     

     

    Bayern were thrashed 6-0 by the City youngsters with our new bhoy opening the scoring.

     

     

    If that doesn’t mean he will be a success I don’t know what will!

  10. Joe Filippis Haircut on

    Well done Rony I feel the doubters will be pleased with how you have changed Celtic by the start of next season we will be fitter faster and leaner.Gone will be the part timers to be replaced by those who want to develop there fitness and there skills.No more afternoons at the bookies or the snooker halls no more drinking 2 nights before a big match. H.H.

  11. tgbs

     

     

    A fair, rational post which puts into perspective the enormity of the task facing the man.

     

     

    – 70% success rate in his signings (with a scouting system which may now be questionable)

     

     

    – A few Blockbusters in those signings

     

     

    …. and probably a broom to shove up his erchie to sweep the floor as he does so.

     

     

    We live in interesting times, my friend. Interesting times.

  12. Joe filippi

     

     

    Don’t underestimate the saboteurs inside the club mate. Those downing tools in the ECL qualifiers could still have their say in whether we get to witness that culture change.

  13. Find it encouraging that some are asking that Paul sets up PL for direct questioning.

     

    I was urging the same course of action last week.

     

    Only proviso no pre vetting of questions.

  14. Captain Beefheart on

    Afternoon all.

     

     

    So Legia match fixed some years ago? I was criticised for calling them cheats. Bring on the apologies. Joke.

     

     

    Green dreamz, sorry but your point about Celtic getting rid of Irishness is just guff. Can’t be bothered giving you the numerous examples which contradict you. Otherwise you made some valid points . Hail hail.

     

     

    Celtic Park not Parkhead.

  15. Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_Noo on

    The woman blamed for making the error which led to Legia Warsaw being ejected from the Champions League has received death threats back in Poland.

     

     

    And administrator Marta Ostrowska is being advised by police to leave the Polish capital until matters quieten down.

     

     

    After beating Celtic 6-1 on aggregate in the third qualifying round, it was discovered that Legia had fielded an ineligible player.

     

     

    Bartosz Bereszynski, who came on as a substitute for the final three minutes of the second leg in Glasgow, should not have been on the field.

     

     

    Even though his appearance did not affect the result, Legia’s original 2-0 victory was scrapped and Celtic awarded a 3-0 victory.

     

     

    This meant they progressed to the next round on away goals after a 4-4 draw, with Ostrowska being singled out as the person who made the clerical error.

     

     

    According to the Daily Record, Ostrowska said: “There have been occasions where someone called the club and asked for my address.

     

     

    “There have been threats. I’ve been told it would be better for me and my family to spend a few days outside of Warsaw.”

     

     

    Dariusz Mioduski, majority owner and chairman of Legia Warsaw, said: “The word disappointment doesn’t portray our emotions. It is more complete frustration and anger.

     

     

    “We admit our mistake but the penalty that was received is completely disproportionate and it goes against everything that sport is supposed to be about.”

     

     

    Meanwhile, Legia have lodged an appeal against their expulsion from the competition which will be heard by UEFA on Wednesday.

  16. Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_Noo on

    LEGIA WARSAW have vowed to fight on should they lose their appeal against their expulsion from the Champions League.

     

     

    The Polish side were stripped of their place despite beating Celtic 6-1 on aggregate because they brought on a suspended player, Bartosz Bereszynski, for the last few minutes of the second leg they won 2-0 at Murrayfield.

     

     

    Legia have vowed to take their case to the Court of Arbitration of Sport in Switzerland should their appeal to UEFA tomorrow be rejected.

     

     

    It has also emerged yesterday that the Legia Warsaw administrator who made the mistake, Marta Ostrowska, had recieveved death threats following the error.

     

     

    In a statement the Polish club said UEFA could have reduced the sanction against them or even “nullify it altogether” if it looked at both the objective and subjectives aspects of their case.

     

     

    “We wish to inform that the above mentioned argumentation will be used by the club at every stage of the appeal process,” Legia said.

     

     

    Celtic have been drawn against NK Maribor of Slovenia in the Champions League playoff round on Aug. 19 or 20, while Legia are due to play in the Europa League against Aktobe of Kazakhstan.

  17. Sannabhoy and 2000 kids say Hail Hail to Pablo’s family

     

     

    22:12 on 8 August, 2014

     

     

    The Kano Foundation Bucket Collection 2014

     

     

    Folks as you may remember , we set out an ambition/hope to try to minimise the amount we imposed on the fans while maximising the return . For that reason , we try to only reach out with the begging bowl a couple of times a year – well next Sunday is one of those times .

     

     

    For the 2nd year in a row , we’ve obtained the collecting licence for the environs around Celtic Park for the flag raising day . As a result , we need to ask for help for volunteers to help with the collection on Saturday 16/8.

     

     

    Because of the early kick-off, we need to ask for volunteers/helpers from 10:00 am .. If you can help ,either with the collection or with the counting afterwards [after the game obv ], please drop a line to bucketcollection@thekanofoundation.com including your name , address , dob and whether you can do before the game or help with the count afterwards.

     

     

    As an added incentive , you’ll get a kano t-shirt and free entry into the Kano Karaoke we are holding in Arena from 7pm after the game.

     

     

    Anyone else is welcome to attend (5gbp entry fee).

     

     

    For anyone attending the game , please bring along your loose change – we averaged 10p per fan last year – a repeat of that would be great .

     

     

    Hail Hail

     

     

    Sanna

  18. Captain Beefheart on

    The Poles can do one.

     

     

    Enough with the condescending sympathy. These numbskulls are insulting our club.

  19. Joe Filippis Haircut on

    big wavy. I agree fella but if Celtic fail to follow through with the recent changes it will indeed be a very bad day for the club and our fans.There are many many footballers with talent there are very few like Messi or Ronaldo the way the more average footballers which are what Celtic have can gain an edge is

     

    by eating and drinking properly and training on both skill and fitness.It was very evident in both games against Legia Warsaw in the last 30 minutes of both games the Celtic players were blowing out there erchies and Rony and JC want to change that.If they are not allowed to finish what they have started it will be a bad day for the club.H.H.

  20. greendreamz

     

    17:01 on

     

    12 August, 2014

     

    ernie lynch

     

    16:27 on

     

    12 August, 2014

     

    greendreamz

     

     

    16:09 on 12 August, 2014

     

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

     

     

    Definitely the UK Government preventing us being in South America and competing with Porto, Barca, Real etc for players :)

     

     

    Potential can of worms opener above.

     

     

    Given the above, would Celtic benefit from a Yes vote that would see Scotland acquire its own immigration laws?

     

     

    If so, where stands the current Board whose silence on the Reid/Haughey affair indicates that it favours a No vote.

     

     

    Just saying.

  21. big wavy

     

    17:09 on

     

    12 August, 2014

     

    Is there a charge of wasting footballs time that can be invoked against Legia ?

     

     

    Don’t know.

     

    But there could be one of bringing the game into disrepute.

  22. jinkyredstar cuts it back for Neil Lennon on

    Is the Game on any channel tomorrow night guys – no chance of getting to Perth

     

     

    On Ronnie – I can wait

     

     

    Cu youngsters for the premature stuff

  23. Dunky……..

     

     

    You coming to Perth ramorra??

     

     

    Celtic (from): Gordon, Matthews, Izaguirre, Denayer, Ambrose, Van Dijk, Mulgrew, Lustig, Commons, Johansen, Biton, Kayal, Boeriggter, Berget, McGregor, Stokes, Forrest, Griffiths, Pukki, Balde, Henderson, Zaluska, O’Connell

  24. Joe Filippis Haircut on

    For many years celtic have pumped money into there youth set up but fairly rarely do any youngsters break through to the first team.It could be argued that the money was being wasted and should be spent in other areas.Now Rony and JC are going to start to try to ensure we see results from our youth teams and more will become first team regulars.This of course will take time so come on Bhoys get behind them show your support there are good times ahead and ok Bada Bing Jam tomorrow if you like. H.H.

  25. Paul67,

     

     

    On a point of respect, can you point out in one of your leading articles the correct spelling of Deila?

     

     

    Whatever the opinion of the manager’s abilities – and I’m backing him – the least we can do is spell his name correctly!

  26. The chances of PL appearing on here for a Q&A session are as likely as the club actually buying 3/4 players between now and the end of the ‘windae’!

     

     

    HH!!

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