You can be sure there is something firm in the story when Sky Sports and The Guardian both report Leicester City have opened talks with Celtic over the future of Odsonne Edouard. Like a few in the squad, Odsonne has made it clear he wants to move to England when, or before, his current contract expires in June next year.
The player’s form suffered from illness and two periods of self-isolation last season, these are mitigating factors but it’s fair to say some among the support would be happy to take the cash and move our prime talent on, irrespective of the end of his contract looming.
Tapping up is, of course, illegal, but I would be surprised if Leicester had not made their terms to the player clear in a indirect way. If Odsonne wants to team-up with his former Celtic boss he is likely to get his way. Once Celtic are through with all their other priorities, they will doubtlessly try to get another club interested.
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“Other priorities”…………….like it !
JHB.
You spout some amount of horse shit.
I would guess you are one of those empty “barrels” ( whatever that means) making all the noise?
getting rid of the current coaching ‘jobs for the bhoys’ staff currently employed , should be a priority.
A bit sensationalist to say we were going burst in 2004.
Also, unsure how you can reference the glass ceiling of Scottish football without addressing the vast renumeration of the CEO.
Peter got roughly £2.9m from his basic wage and LTIP scheme payment for a couple of years running – I think 18/19 and 19/20.
During this period the CEO of Man United got £3m. I think Man U’s turnover was up around half a billion. Ours was under £90m.
PL must be, in relative terms, the best renumerated CEO in European football. How anyone can think that is acceptance is beyond me.
So much of the discourse on here completely ignores context and underlying facts.
In his first year he had something about him
A bit of class cool and very effective
After year one I could never see what all the fuss was about
He frustrated me most of the time
I also thought we wasted him playing him up front on his own
He was more effective when he had someone with him
Hey ho good luck OE
67ECW
Also given wee Gorden is telling us Ange deserves a chance
Looks like Gavin Strachan will be staying
67ECW
Im guessing EH and his backroom team would have cost £4m a year (and that’s a guess)
How much will Ange cost with JK and Gavin £1.5 ???
I really hope this works for us but I cannot get anything positive from any info I read or hear
Somebody please convince me all will be well
Perhaps James Forrest will provide an update that all is under control and I should not worry
67ECW
TURKEYBHOY on 8TH JUNE 2021 11:18 AM
I am trying to leave personalities out of this.
The following is the VideoCelts info quoted by Sydney Tim.
Peter Lawwell joined Celtic in October 2003, in the year to 30 June 2004 Celtic recorded turnover of £69m, he had a pro rata salary of £248,941. In the year to June 2019 Celtic’s turnover reached £83.4m with Peter Lawwell picking up £3.5m.
Had the 2004 turnover kept line with inflation by 2019 it would have reached £106.2m.
So turnover grew by approx 20% (£69m-£84m) while the CEO’s benefits increased considerably more in percentage terms.
Do you think that, in the prevailing operating circumstances in which Celtic FC found itself between 2004-2019, those numbers were/are acceptable in terms of growing our business???
In terms of the other comparison regarding Celtic CEO wages v turnover, if I was the Man U guy, I would be in demanding a rise and citing PL as my evidence.
Agree, wholeheartedly, with this post (I’m unsure who said it and who has copied down)
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Turkeybhoy on 8th June 2021 11:23 am
BURNLEY 78,
I completely agree with you on this.PL has done things wrong,some badly,but Celtics finances is not one of them.
I think it is fair to say OE time at the club is over, he played most of last season like a player who wanted away. Not committed or focused enough. The time is right, let him go with a few others also. If, as reported, the fee is £15-£18 Million than I think that’s reasonable business considering when his contract expires.
Keep the faith guys. HH
Not to worry. We are a well run club and our manager or director of football will have a replacement lined up………
Ah the old he didn’t look committed routine, i remember that class from my “body language” degree. it is time for him to go though we’re not gonna get a better chance on a return on OE than this window. The issue will be will we get all of the monies from sales, Ajer, Christie etc for the rebuild or will we do it on the cheap? We can of course follow our buy low sell high model but let’s raise the buy low budget a tad to give us a chance, some good loan options would help too.
Question: if Ange leaves his club in Japan mid-season is he then a ‘rat’ from their perspective?
We don’t want to be hiring a guy who is a rat, surely?
Squire Danaher
Of course Woodward only has one club to look after…….
Some players were not giving anywhere near 100% others were not playing for the team but for themselves, most, if not all of them, were the ones who wanted away last season. The manager making a stand and asking that they not be allowed to leave painted himself into a corner. As dropping them would have led to awkward questions being asked as to why, if they’re not playing, did we not sell. All in all just one of a multitude of wrong decisions last season that led to the dire consequences of not only not doing “The 10”, but, nothing is won at all. por cierto.
Paul67
English window only opens tomorrow there will be interest from France, as Eddy has been consistent for the national side.
We won’t sell cheap as we do have ‘tough negotiators at Celtic’ ( copyright Lyon.)
I hope if Brendan really wants Eddy he pays his true worth of £20M minimum with a year left on his contract.
JOCKS IMMORTAL LIONS on 8TH JUNE 2021 12:27 PM
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Agree with all you write – nothing much to add really, except it says a lot that apparently the majority of the support are not too concerned to see our top scorer leave. He could/should have scored another twenty during the season – ten against the Ibrox franchise over the four league games.
Odsonne Edouard’s performance levels didn’t hit previous heights. Perhaps his positive covid diagnosis had an impact. IMHO he has the potential to be world class. Looking forward to seeing his career progress.
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OE knew he was not staying at Celtic Park for the forthcoming season,at least he could have put in an effort in appreciation to the club,as he finally gets his wish to play in England.to the fans that welcomed him and made his stay at Paradise,close to hero worship……or maybe OE was told to take it easy,remain injury free in readiness for his new employers, as he gets ready for action in the ‘best league in the world.
STILL CELTIC
@SQUIRE DANAHER
Your analysis is flawed. Celtic are limited by playing in the SPFL – so you need to judge its financial performance against that of other clubs operating out of the SPFL and not by comparing to the performance of the UK economy overall. I don’t have the figures to hand – but I should imagine that Celtic’s increased turnover during the Lawwell years significantly outpaces that of every other SPFL club (and probably most of them put together). The Man U guy you mention could have just sat on his backside and done nothing and his club’s revenues would still have outpaced Celtic’s – because it plays in the E&WPL and benefits from the tsunami of TV money that pours into that. While the Lawwell years deserve scrutiny his record on generating money for the club is one area where there is limited scope for criticism.
Interesting watch on Amazon Prime was the “Take the Ball, Pass the Ball” documentary on the very successful (for a time) Barca team and those who influenced, Cruyff originally then Pep.
Henry, who’d played in various roles as a ‘forward’ in different styles at Monaco, Juve and Arsenal noted, how disciplined he had to be by Pep. He always had to make a run wide after holding a high starting position, this would, in turn open space for Xavi Iniesta or Messi…..whomever.
8 out of 10 times he would receive the ball in the first phase, but often got reward of a chance the second phase. Selfishness for the team and system if you had faith and commitment got the team a goal and you a clear cut chance as this system was designed to create out-numbering positions against your opposition.
My point here is last season Edouard (whom I like btw) always appeared to want the ball and go direct in a crowded (extra crowded in Scotland) box and ran into trouble.
Whether this was ‘make a name for myself’ selfishness (and you have to some ego to be a footballer especially a striker) or the instruction of the Manager, I guess we’ll never know.
But it did make us somewhat predictable.
The main element from the documentary was that everybody had to commit to the system from Goalie forward.
Well worth a watch!
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Best league in the world;
According to BBC ,ITV RTE and a host of newspaper columnists too many to mention.
67 EUROPEAN CUP WINNERS on 8TH JUNE 2021 12:19 PM
‘…Somebody please convince me all will be well.’
I’m able to watch a lot of of J-League games (a faster, more technical game than is played in Scotland) with my TV subs, and have watched the last 6+ Marinos mini-matches so here’s what my keen yet untrained eyes see in Angelos’ team:
A high energy team where fitness levels look to be top notch for the full 90
A fast-transitioning team that keeps possession well, but ALWAYS looks to push forward quickly with that possession (ie definitely less of the sidey to sidey plays we’ve seen too much of recently)
An aggressive team that snaps into tackles all over the park and works to shut down and regain the ball
A dynamic team that does a lot of off-the-ball running…esp when transitioning from Mid to Front
Less content to play neat wee territorial triangles and more about movements that open up space to advance direct and purposeful attacks
A team that likes to use its wide players via long grass-cutting passes rather than over the top punts
On the weaker side, defence isn;t a particularly strong suit, often with the 3 core backs being left exposed to surges from counter attacking sides – so Ange is gunna need exceptional players for those positions or a proper defensive coach who can erase our already in-baked problems of a sorry season just past.
In short, in the Marinos I see a fast, zealous and capable team that (dare I say it) kinda plays the old Celtic way?
HH
Rodgers will know exactly how much it will take to release Eddy from his contract, he probably kept a copy of the spreadsheet before he left the club. He will pay the minimum amount required.
*correction* for anyone interested🤣😊
“8 out of 10 times he would *NOT* receive the ball”
Forget about his SPL status for a moment and price him at Under 21 International level.
How many goals has Edouard for France Under 21s?
14 goals in 17 appearances
Under 17 Championships:
Édouard was crowned as the Golden Player and the top goalscorer after scoring eight of France’s 15 goals in five matches, a record in the competition.
Moussa Diaby has 1 goal and 3 assists
Both came from PSG, Diaby moved to Bayer Leverkusen in 2019 for £13.5Mill, yet he’s valued at £45mil!
A blind man can see that Edouard is worth so much more than £18Mill. Once the English Transfer window opens then we’ll see a true reflection of his price, but, maybe Leicester is promising a substantial sell-on fee for him, in order to get a quick deal done, and just maybe cash upfront! Still think the PLC should hang fire though. por cierto
@GARNGAD TO CROY on 8TH JUNE 2021 12:58 PM
What did Brendan ever do for us?!
I assumed Eddie’s departure with only a year on his contract would lead to a cut price offer, but seeing today the huge figures for other strikers in the final year of their contracts, maybe not. Eddie is very talented and has scored many goals in Scotland, Europe and for his country at u21. In the light of that £30m is still not unreasonable and maybe achievable (if we sell him)
SEANYPRAWNY on 8TH JUNE 2021 12:54 PM
I am not making a direct comparison as such between Woodward and Lawwell.
I agree that EPL and SPFL are fundamentally different markets in terms of global reach and income. A fairer comparison on that basis would be Woodward v other EPL CEOs.
If anything though, that makes my point even more valid on the basis that if Celtic are operating in such a shallow pool and don’t have the capacity to grow, why are we paying a CEO benefits commensurate with if not actually higher than those operating at a higher level?
Larsson
Sutton
Dembele
Hartson
Hooper
Edouard
That’s where he ranks for me in the pantheon of Celtic strikers of the 21st century.
His attitude and selfishness last season will always leave a bad taste in my mouth (along with Christie and Nitcham). Provided Celtic maximise the fee, I couldn’t give a toss where his career goes from here.
67 EUROPEAN CUP WINNERS on 8TH JUNE 2021 12:19 PM
‘…Somebody please convince me all will be well.’
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QUADROPHENIAN on 8TH JUNE 2021 12:58 PM
Right – I’m convinced :-)))
Listen, it is what it is. As Strachan senior said, it is good to think outside of the same old faces / small pool we usually swim in.
He looks like a no-shit sort of guy, has a plan, very much into fitness and pace, plays progressive/aggressive attacking football – so let’s see.
No point in sitting mumping about it – lets get behind the guy and give it a blast – it might be bliddy brilliant!!!!
HH
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@ SEANYPRAWNY on 8TH JUNE 2021 12:54 PM
The comparison to the Manu United CEO is to what each get paid relative to turnover of the club.
PL has for many years been paid around 2% of turnover (not profit). I dont think any CEO in European football will match that.
It would be interesting to see how many CEOs in the wider business community match that figure.
QUADROPHENIAN on 8TH JUNE 2021 12:58 PM
Thank you, not only for the attempt to motivate me, but for the detail
I, probably like most, have not done any due diligence on the new man – laziness on my part
I think my expectations were at a high – because I always wanted EH
So when we did not get him I was always going to be dissapointed with whoever turned up
My only objective for the new man is to win the league – anything else is secondary and a bonus
So his lack of profile equalled limited chance to win the league in my mind
I feel better after your post – thank you
67ECW
When OE moves to Leicester, we should invest in young Jordan Larsson, its a must for me.
ON the subject of Ryan Christie, I really cannot figure out all the vitriol towards him. To me, he tries 100% every game. and again I think the boy has tonnes of talent. Those who feel he wants away etc etc, give a though to what he’s paid. Rumour has he’s on 8K a week. How would you feel when some muppets are gettting 5 times that
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BIG GEORGES FAN CLUB – HAIL, HAIL, WEE OSCAR on 8TH JUNE 2021 1:12 PM
Yep I get your point
i’m feeling better already
67ECW
BLOGGER @1,10
Agree with you.
Just because someone wants to move to a club, unless they have an activation fee set, club has the right to accept highest bidder.
Only risk is player refuses and leaves on a free….not what we want.
Good luck. Anyone else wants to go, thanks, good luck, show us the money, spend on hungry players and think about youth players who (as shown by many teams around Europe) suit high pressing, energetic formations.
Easy this football malarkey🤣😂