Lessons learned in bad times


Celtic are arguably better off for players for the No. 10 role than any other position.  David Turnbull is the current preferred occupant, but Ryan Christie was the man in possession before he was moved to the right, while Tom Rogic got the nod on Monday and Olivier Ntcham has played there before.  This almost certainly explains why we have seen so little of Ewan Henderson, a player who has never let us down and provided a memorable start to the second Neil Lennon era at Tynecastle two years ago.

One of the truisms in football is that you learn more from bad times than good.  This season’s big lesson was delivered during a dead rubber Europa League game, moving David Turnbull and Ismaila Soro from the stand to the pitch transformed Celtic.

Ewan is no more a right sided midfielder than David Turnbull, but his substation into the action on Monday, allowed David to move into the middle, where he created and converted the chance Celtic scored from.  Both must start against Livingston.

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  1. Tom English’s family, although resident in Limerick, originate from the Black North. His father moved there for work. His allegiances are not necessarily Celtic-friendly…

  2. I gotta be honest I couldn’t give a flying carpet about our trip to Dubai


    Now if we were carpet bombing the Yemen that would be a whole different matter


    Or if we were bombing in the League


    You’re talking another level if that were the case….


    I’d be looking for an apology there…


    No question

  3. MAGMA 67 @ 2:26 PM



    CHAIRBHOY 11:12:



    You are either confusing my post at 8:12 with other posters or deliberately spinning nonsense to attribute claims on BR that I didn’t make nor think.



    What I actually said was that Brendan Rodgers was in discussions with a club in China in early summer of 2018. The DD article and quotes confirm this as fact.



    I also said that the Celtic board were were taken by surprise on this. Again, DD is quoted as saying that BR told him about the talks and offer from China so this isn’t social media rumour. I also heard it from someone who worked for Celtic at the time and I have no reason to believe why Celtic wouldn’t be surprised by BR speaking to or wanting to speak to a club in China in early summer of 2018. This is well before John McGinn went to Villa.



    Finally I said this was the beginning of the end for BR and Celtic. Again DD confirmed this in the article. He said it was then inevitable that he would eventually accept another offer and took steps to protect the club and renegotiating BRs terms with a get out clause and fee (all above board as you said).



    I’ve not blackened anyone’s name with social media rumour. The DD article backs up my original post.



    Take it easy.



    Hail hail



    Thank you for the reply, I’m not at all sure why Celtic Executive were taken by surprise that a lucrative offer came in for their Football management and coaching team at that time (they may be flabbergasted now though;). In fact Brendan Rodgers said they had several offers while at Celtic.



    Also, you acknowledge BR done the right thing and talked to the Celtic Executive.



    So it’s what I’ve said from the start of this nonsense in February 2019 – it’s a nothing story that some “Celtic Sources” made a mountain out of a molehill from.



    Glad we are on the same page.



    Hail Hail

  4. PL video — or was it him?


    Looked like an episode of “Only an excuse”.


    Although the laugh is on us for keeping in a job.

  5. I would pay to see some of the anonymous posters on here ,interview PL face to face .



    He would rip the average complainer to shreds.



    I have been very critical of him ,as of late .


    But not one poster on here has any real idea of how difficult his job is .


    Myself included.



    But he is a formidable man.



    He is due much more respect that I have personally shown him of late ,and there are many more posters who do him a disservice.



    I have no doubt that he has Celtic’s best interest at heart.



    All that being said .


    He needs to clean up the shit show that he has created.



    Not an easy task.




  6. PL — looked and sounded like a busted flush.


    I think the brass neck has been breached and he is a busted flush.



    14 years too late — how we have paid a heavy for his lack of talent and ambition.



    But never mind we can all debate where best to play EH.




    “Chairbhoy on 13th January 2021 11:12AM



    Give it a rest with the Celtic tried to keep Rodgers settlement quiet fallacy.



    You’re suggesting the club would breach Stock Exchange rules and open itself to charges of insider trading. On the record submissions are 27th Feb 2019 – manager’s away immediately, 18th Mar 2019 – material compensation received, increased profits expected.



    This isn’t the first time your inaccuracy has been corrected.



    Chairbhoy – smarter than your average chair? Well, football’s a game of opinions.”



    “Give it a rest” :))))) NO



    First things first



    I did not suggest anyone breached any Stock Exchange rules.



    My issue with the Celtic Executive is that of unprofessionalism, immoral behaviour and incompetence.



    Also, I did not suggest anyone insider traded, the people in the frame for this are far too smart to do something so heinous over a few do$$ars… not that I’m suggesting they ever would to make vast profits, these guys are consummate professionals.



    Now, the fact is that on the 27th February 2021 the manager left, all offical announcements, as far as thet went, were made in a proper and professional fashion.



    However the narritive that was fed by “Celtic Sources” and Celtic PLC friendly main stream media and social media was quite different.



    We all know what that narrative was and on a wave of lies and innuendo Brendan Rodgers became Fraudgers, the Rat etc etc



    The share price fell and Linsdell Train took advantage and bought shares…






    Celtic PLC did nothing to discourage the lies about the Brendan Rodgers move nor try to support the share price. In my opinion if they had managed the Public Relations of the move properly and were open and transparent about the details of the settlement then the share price could have been quite different.



    On the 13th March 2019 the Daily Telegraph exposed the true nature of the settlement…






    Some six days after the settlement had been made public did Celtic PLC made an announcement to the stock exchange regarding the compensation package.



    So when Celtic PLC told the stock exchange almost three weeks after Brendan Rodgers had left, the agreement was already in the public domain.



    As I say, I see no evidence of breaches or insider trading.



    I see plenty of evidence of immoral behaviour, unprofessionalism and incompetence.



    Hail Hail

  8. The same old lines from Peter, he just looks tired and old and sounds the same. We need fresh blood and new direction. The worry for me is he sounded like a man who’s going nowhere.



    And can i just say the money from the foundation was donated by Celtic supporters.



    And one last thing, Gerry McCulloch is a weasel of a man.

  9. Back to Basics - Glass Half Full on

    Coneybhoy @ 7:41pm



    Excellent post.






    Haven’t seen the CEO’s video statement.



    Only words after all.



    On the bright side Pablo – at least your “new articles posted” will no longer trigger “nothing from Peter yet?” comments.



    Hail hail



    Keep The Faith

  10. TT @ 10.35



    Blow it oot yer erse — PL has always been a second rate bean counter.


    The world is full of monkey managers who have delusions of adequacy.



    He has just gotten more publicity than most.



    Disco lights are him doing infrastructure.


    NL is his ideal manager — cheap and pliable.


    Paying too much for projects and punts — aka dross — is his squad management masterclass.


    Pet agents are his scouting network.


    Astroturf his comms strategy.



    He has been out of his depth for 14 years.


    BQ offered him some sort of support and guidance.


    Now flying solo it is crash and burn.

  11. TT @ 10.35



    Apologies for my direct tone.


    Just a case that PL is way out of his depth.


    Remove the success on the field and he is dancing about in the scud / nudey.

  12. Surprised to find myself in the 10% group who didn’t have a problem with the annual winter Dubai trip. As someone else observed where indeed do these figures come from…………



    Oh and of the 90% who have a problem with it -did your problems begin before, or after our incompetent politicians used it as a deflection and our many enemies in the media saw an opportunity.



    The manager and Lawwell should both go, for many mistakes, but not because of Dubai.

  13. TINYTIM on 13TH JANUARY 2021 10:35 PM


    ‘I would pay to see some of the anonymous posters on here ,interview PL face to face .’







    I suspect the amount you would require to pay Peter Lawwell to take part in such an exercise would be ruinous.

  14. Also just watched Mr Lawwell’s crisis ‘apology’ – in terms of issues management ‘craft’ it wasn’t real good.


    First, I don’t doubt Peter is a Celtic fan, yet he seems totally ambushed by the fallout of cumulative debacles.


    That ambush does result from many questionable decisions made on-field and off; some likely his own.


    Agree that parallels with the Pizza Express Prince are off.



    But on the deficiencies of the apology Video, mibby a helpful pointer about Crisis Mgmt is this:



    Companies must consider two key points before communicating in a crisis; the pain and consequences arising from the incident and their actions. When crisis-hit companies think of pain and consequences, their attentions are turned outwards to those most affected and keeps all actions and messages about THEM and not US.


    To me, the video content is about THE CLUB, and misses why so many of US are so furious and so pained.



    Dubai was just the arabic straw that broke many Celtic camels’ backs. HH

  15. Marspapa- first I had seen his name was on the bench on Monday mate,don’t even know what position he plays.

  16. I think Lawwell has played an important role in making Celtic the super power of 21st century Scottish football.



    I accept today’s apology and I’m happy to move on from Dubai.



    We’ve more important issues.



    We need to conclude the January review, communicate the outcome to fans and start preparing for next season immediately.



    I suspect Lawwell has given a third rate manager everything he’s asked for but unfortunately for Peter, his man isn’t up to the job.



    He’ll likely share Neil Lennon’s fate now.



    I suspect history will be kinder to Lawwell than it will be to Neil Lennon.

  17. Does CQN have any mouthy Brexit supporters?


    If they are also happy clappers then it will be slip on shoes tomorrow.



    Bojo vs PL — now that would be some fight.

  18. AD @ 11.15



    No chance.



    NL has given too much to the club over the past 9 years.


    PL has taken too much from the club over the past 17 years.



    PL has been a disaster for 14 of those 17 years.


    When he had no-one local to tell him to wind his neck in.



    Totally hopeless.

  19. Scaniel



    quite wonderful memories of playing football wiith the kid who becomes the bishop of glasgow,



    keep it lit ,



    you fellas did

  20. Can I thank everyone who has taken the time to say some kind words and offer prayers for my beloved brother Philip who died earlier today.


    It was a massive shock to the whole family and it’s difficult to come to terms with.


    Our parents passed away many years ago and Philip, as head of the family, has been there for us all , officiating at marriages, baptisms and sadly the funeral of our sister, Dina, last year. This hit him hard as they were very close.


    There was a seventeen year age gap between us , coupled with him studying in Rome for so long, I didn’t really get to know him until 1980 when he finally came home. This was when our Celtic adventure began.


    Pretty much all through the 80’s we went to every game home and away. Only Tynecastle was missed, our Dad didn’t want us going there. He was a tremendous worrier and with our Mum having recently died we obeyed his two requests , use the seated areas at grounds and don’t go to Tynecastle.


    It was a wonderful and frustrating time to follow Celtic. So many happy memories together and when our brother Gerard was home from his studies the three of us would go together.


    Work commitments meant my visits to Celtic Park receded but Philip along with Gerard went most weeks through the thin times of the nineties and the successes that followed.


    Just sinking in now that we won’t be talking Celtic again, trying to figure out how we could possibly win the big cup again.


    Thanks again to so many on here, forgive me for not naming everyone, it has been comforting.

  21. BORGO67 – condolences for you and your family’s loss.


    Wishing you all peace in your hearts and minds. HH

  22. what does it mean to be a






    your in charge of yourself not affording a season card, you go game by game when you can afford it, maybe the most in the spirit of the original park, pennies to get in , your dad drove the carts to fill in the hole that became the original dalmarnock road park.



    you moved to the new stadium, a 10,000 cart load to fill in, worse than before, but davitt came to lay the sod, them calton carts,



    140 years later,



    greetin faced



    give us the heads of other descendents,



    i dont like that big pete gets paid so much, but i doubt very much that he is not a celtic supporter.

  23. Question



    Anyone who thinks travelling thousands of miles when a.virus is at its raging worse is fine is a looney.



    So yes you and Hot Smoked the most boring poster on here are looney’s.



    If the fact that the whole population being locked up , unable to visit relatives, unable to go to funerals of friends and families is not enough for you in a moral sense and your only interested in football then the fact we have 13 players unavailable tells you the decision was a car crash that even our failing CEO has had to apologise for. Yet despite all that you think theirs no issue. If I was that stupid I wouldn’t come on a blog and show e everyone my stupidity.

  24. HOT SMOKED on 13TH JANUARY 2021 10:24 PM


    ” SID on 13TH JANUARY 2021 7:46 PM






    You’re the one with the mental posts. You’re trying to defend the Dubai trip. 90 % of the support were totally against it, yet your in the 10% ever wondered why that is?”




    I don`t know where those figures come from but my experiences in life have led me to believe that in a 90% /10% split, the 90% are most often wrong.




    Goodnight one and all






    Said the English teacher…..(eloquently!)😉

  25. Sorry guys battery went.



    Hes a left sided centre back…. If Duffy goes suddenly (recalled) or moves, he woukd likely have to step in….. 🤔



    Just a kid i know, but were short on options.

  26. Borgo67



    I’m so sorry for your loss. It’s shared across CQN and the city, because your Brother belonged to us all.



    Thank you for sharing him with us.



    HH jg

  27. Borgo



    I don’t do Twitter and I don’t know if you do, but the younger family members have remarked to me on the generosity of the tributes there from across the community to your brother.



    I met him on professional business a few years ago in relation to safeguarding issues within the Catholic Church.



    He was impressively inquisitive and appeared genuinely interested in the subject while not intimidating or badgering. Unfortunately these qualities were not all shared on that occasion by his underlings.



    I work in Paisley and would often enjoy him doing the 1:00 Mass at St Mirins on HoO and during Lent.



    Me and the Squire-ess enjoyed his online 12:00 Sunday Mass from St Andy’s during early lockdown. He always left me aspiring how to be a better Catholic and man.



    We tuned in on Sunday and were disappointed he wasn’t on the gig. Little did we know.



    Condolences to you and your family for your loss – you should take comfort from the confidence that he will be reunited with your parents and his beloved sister and the regard in which he was held by his flock.

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