Before we get into the meat of the matter, I would like to record how impactful Kristoffer Ajer is at full back. He is not a full back, of course, this is not even his second best position, but he can get beyond his man and send a dangerous cross into the heart of the penalty box. This marks him as unique in our full back options. Of the many lessons from the season, let one be that we need better full backs at both sides of the field.
Conceding fouls inside your own half is not considered a capital crime at other clubs, so we should temper our annoyance at Shane Duffy (or the absent, but often guilty, Diego Laxalt), but we all know Celtic cannot defend set-pieces. At Livingston’s first goal, it was the otherwise excellent Kris Ajer who failed to track his man, not Nir Bitton, who stuck like glue to his opponent but was blamed by a scapegoat seeking Sky co-commentator.
When Livingston breached the Celtic defence for a second time, I was not concerned, as we were playing well and I expected a 30-minute onslaught towards the Livingston goal. Instead, Livingston consolidated their position, aided by four substitutions in 17 minutes either side of the goal, which finished Celtic as a threat. Credit to David Martindale.
Scott Brown’s ‘Get stuck into them’ cameo might have worked in a different era. We have seen similar flailing arms go completely unpunished against us, but it was the last thing we needed last night. By full time, the Livingston pitch resembled a very appropriate white flag.
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PITYMEVIN on 21ST JANUARY 2021 10:31 PM
So how did Eddie Howe take a team from League One to the Premiership without making them better?
TT has a far superior record than EH at bringing young players through and selling at a massive profit
That’s why he got to the top and is the level of manager we should be going for.
Eddie Howe did being a team up but also took them down after 5 years of epl money.
Another yes man, but if he comes, I will get right behind him and if he doesn’t, I wont lose sleep.
I said months ago I want a continental manager as the English league is over priced and not the market we should be anywhere near.
That’s my reasoning.
N&V
AN TEARMANN on 21ST JANUARY 2021 10:10 PM
https://youtu.be/7wRHBLwpASw Oooft!!!
PITYMEVIN – interesting, although I’m not 100% sure how best to interpret that. Is it looking at the money spent on players vs market value?
Certainly TT’s figures look great if that’s the comparison – maybe just being at PSG makes a player more expensive? Don’t know – quite difficult to weigh up.
As I say, though – I think the profile sounds right – even if Howe doesn’t actually match his own profile :-)))
HH
BGFC
Burnley 78
Apologies for my comments which weren’t meant as a personal insult but certainly reads as such.
I was only 4 in 78 but I was at the 4-4 Ibrox game and I remember, fleck, poodle Heid McPherson, Hugh Burns and co, they were pretty honking back then.
Now whatever your personal opinion on Sevco is now they have dropped 6 points in 24 matches and are unbeaten.
Build for next season, sort our own house out and we may get away with just one season of pain.
Geebee, what are you talking about, CL final last year.
Yes a complete failure.
Out our budget, yes if you say so, and now why would that be? Because hes good maybe?
BR would have been out our budget as well then , but he still came.
What’s the big deal with eddie Howe anyway, because he worked in the epl .
Stop with the English managers the market is over valued and we cant compete with the efl championship FFS in terms of financing.
We need to be on the continent
PITYMEVIN on 21ST JANUARY 2021 10:55 PM
Overpriced market? Tuchel was earning £7.5m a year. We won’t pay that….and I won’t want to pay it for a man who has failed in his last two jobs.
I think people forget how small Bournemouth are – a tiny club whose every year in the top-flight was seen as a success.
Did you mind getting a sacked manager from the “over-priced” market when we took on Rodgers?
Howe maybe ,with Tindall I doubt it,the gossip is he was not happy with him stepping into his shoes
I have no clue who our next manager-or should I say coach is going to be, unless there are serious changes at the top it’s gonna be the same old, we NEED a Director of Football, not an accountant who thinks he is a DoF, this is the most important factor IMO, we NEED this.
What I do know and have said for far too long that Lenny has overstayed his welcome, it should have happend the day we got papped out by Culj, in saying that he shouldn’t have gotten the job in the first place tho, that is the feeling of the majority of the support if folks care to look around, I was all for Marcus Rose the last time we were in the hunt, he has done superb in Germany against serious money, now, there are plenty of quality up and coming forward think coaches out there, lot’s of them, many to be had for very little money Ronnie D anyone, he wasn’t the worst, he just didn’t have the backing from above to implement his ideas, not all of them good I grant you, but you get my gist, and before you all say the football was shite, it wasn’t, when they played they played, pity that more than half the players resented and rebelled against him, and they did as well you all know.
B78
For a man as smart as you are, surely you must see that there are changes needed at the top FFS, everyone gets stale at some point, trust me I know all about that.
HH
PITYMEVIN on 21ST JANUARY 2021 11:02 PM
Yes, he got to the final but did he win it? That was the remit with the budget the club had. He was sacked after not convincing the club’s owners.
But you contradict yourself. He’s paid well so he must be good but prior to that you talk about over-hyped managers. Can’t have it both ways.
Jobo doesn’t do walking away.
So when he walks away……
SeasonDeMerde
I’m not sure I’d want Eddie Howe either. Three reasons for it:
1) I’m not sure he’s all that good in the transfer market. He funnelled the best part of £40m to Liverpool for Solanke and Ibe, neither of whom really delivered;
2) his Bournemouth teams couldn’t defend – their goals against stats were atrocious; and
3) this is the most important one – at Bournemouth he effectively had his own way. He’d no doubt want the same with us, which means when he eventually left his folk would too! We’d be where we were when Rodgers left – our entire football operation gutted! Bournemouth got lucky that Tindall stayed to be manager so the rest did too, which adds further doubt – Howe would need to build himself a new back room team. I’d much rather have a DoF model to put all that in place for the club and the manager can bring his own people to work with ours rather than replacing them (or not) each time the manager leaves. Like they have at Brentford, Dortmund, Man City, etc.
In terms of who I’d go for as coach, I think there’s a number of options out there – Philipe Clement at Brugge for instance – won the league for Genk, moved to Brugge where he won it again and now on course (9 points clear) for his own personal 3 in a row. He used to play for Coventry so probably speaks decent English and probably wants to manage down there so we’d offer a decent stepping stone option – success at Celtic would raise his profile down there (especially after this year) more than success in Belgium will!
BGFC, check out what he did at Dortmund and the players he brought through.
Howe no, as I’m calling him from now on.
Has been no where near as successful as TT.
But on the same page that I posted if you go on the PSG season before he had a deficit of €8 million three years later they are in the CL final.
He built the team and we should jump in feet first. Yes we might have to pay him £4/5 million a year but we wont regret it, we should be demanding it. We are Celtic and the sponsorship deal should pay his wages.
We must demand better as supporter other wise it’s just the same old story.
And now I’m being told we cant afford mangers, since when?
N&V
SID on 21ST JANUARY 2021 9:31 PM
An Tearmann
I think it requires your head to be stuck in the sand to even contemplate what we are watching is Champions material.
Just not realistic, fairy tale stuff, gnomes and pixies.
3 points out of 12
7 wins out of 22
Up against a challenger who has dropped 6 points in 24 games, we’ve dropped 9 in our last four.
Just prefer to live in real world
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Sid.
We are all in the real world..
Now if only you had replied at 6.50 like above.i would not be exchangin.
You didnt.you shited the man which suprised me.ie joke figure etc.
And anyway while a probability exists …… :-)
HH
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SPIDEY101
Believe it or not I was thinking about Philipe Clement earlier today, he defo would be on my short list
HH
BGFC
Classic…no bad song aswell!
Regardless of who we prefer, NL has to go
Tuchel would never come, Howe might though not if PL gets his way
Geebee, I only think the English press had hyped Howe no.
Because no other league is anywhere near as good if you believe all you read.
As spidey said his record is not that good, have you got a bet on?
Told you not that fussed either way, but I still think TT is the calibre of manager we should be demanding and not someone who shops at harrods when we can only afford continental aldi’s.
Spidey totally agree it must be a continental manager.
He he sounds the business
Ticks all the boxes.
Leave howe no to Newcastle
Spidey, the other great thing about a manager form Belgium is and its not lost on me, that they are the number 1 international team in the world and therefore must have some great youth set ups. We need someone who has contacts and can tap into this.
England is over priced
Phil Hammond is our head of football operations.
He was given the permanent position in Oct 2019.
I’m told that PL is happy with his contribution to the club .
From the outside looking in .
I don’t know why.
TT
Geebee has pepe got man city to a cl final yet? and they are the best team in the world or did Munich? and he is the best manager in the world after klopp.
And for winning the league last year liverpool were named team of the year on the bbc even though Celtic won a quadruple treble.
Dont believe the hype.
Jobo
Thanks for your input.i didnt always participate but enjoyed the summary over the years
Thanks
HH
The Exiled Tim – I’m def taking that as a great minds moment!
Pitymevin – he hasn’t really been a manager long – stint at a small team, 2 years at Genk and second year at Brugge (though was a scout and assistant for a bit) so think we’d also need someone to cover the youth system (which really needs a revamp), medical department, sports science, scouting, etc as well as him. He probably has good contacts though. Here’s a link to a tactical analysis on his team last year (no idea how accurate it is:
We’d probably need to wait until summer for him though :-(
Most frustrating thing is I found this guy just using Google whereas Celtic, well let’s leave it there…
Here’s the link:
https://footballbh.net/2020/01/16/club-brugge-201920-a-year-to-remember-scout-report-tactical-analysis-tactics/
Spidey101/Pitymevin/guys – do any of you think PL / DD would have the foresight to consider any of the people mentioned?
I think no chance.
Since WGS left, there has been little imagination, and seemingly no strategic forward thinking
BR – given the job due to being a Celtic man – seemingly only given the post as a reaction to DD’s nose being put out of joint
NL – given the job due to being a Celtic man – twice – both as a knee-jerk emergency reaction to sudden departures
TM – given the job due to being a Celtic man
RD – given the job due to DD/PL fall out about trying land a Celtic man – seemingly a result of an ar5e up involving DD / PL / Roy Keane
I don’t think being a Celtic man should rule anyone out – but it is not high up the list of qualities we need to look at.
HH
BGFC
Spidey, fig: 6,7& 8 show exactly how to break down packed defenses.
I’m sold and would be willing to wait to get the right man.
I’m also pig sick of the abuse of lenny on here, but I know his time is up and can understand the frustration. Still no need for the abuse though, my only problem with lenny was that he never called out the cheating refs when we were winning. But I think he was told not to go there by our PR department.
Great shout and here’s hoping.
N&V
BGFC, not sure I think when they got Ronnie in they believed that a continental/ Scandinavian approach maybe the new path and then reverted back to norm.
Path of least resistance and all that.
Lenny was the easy option, but no foresight, I actually feared for him and that’s no lie.
I would rather stay away from celtic men to be honest, cant say why, just a gut feeling and it’s a big world out there.
I just want what’s best for the hoops and I dont think the board see CL football as our bar, but it should be and of that there is no doubt.
N&V
Ernie Lynch, Salve salve;- If you are still about, I enjoyed your ripost however, I do not think you have factored in the state of Scottish football when crowds will finally be allowed back. For the vast majority of survivors it will be a struggle to put a team on the park. If Dermott retains his shareholding he will have to put substantial sums of money into it in order to clear the debt and be able to field a team, either his own or by some other means and when you take into account the state the league is liable to be in, it does not present an attractive proposition.
When you add into the mix the negative effect of Brexit on an already hollowed out economy it is an even more unattractive look. Then you have the cherry on top of the crumbling economic cake viz the possiblity of Scotland separating from the UK. These things all coalesced within a short time frame, which is why I think Dermott has decided to sell. To wit and in short there is no money to be made in such a market.
Greenwells
Creo quia absurdum est.
GG I think this season the ST sales still created a full house.
So they couldn’t have lost that much.
But you are completely correct, some very dark days ahead for the economy no matter how optimistic you are.
I think he will try and sell, but to who as your post states. Their will be very few buyer’s out there.
I hear his boy is a massive Celtic fan and the old boy is getting on, so maybe time to move aside and give the youth a chance.
Heres hoping hes frivolous with his old mans cash for one of his passions.
And sky talking about europen super league as I type.
N&V
This article like many before it contradicts the banner headline “Not Lazy Journalism”. Well it tells us nothing, it’s just a recycling of old news. This is the definition of extremely lazy journalism. You don’t have to put out a constant strem of new postings – wait until you’ve something important to say. Fortunately the subscribers comments are always enlightening and often very funny. That keeps me clicking on.
Tinytim @ 11.36
Oh, knowledgeable one…
Is Phil Hammond related to Nick?
;-)
HH
Pitymevin – I agree re: Celtic men (unless there are any brilliant Dutch, Belgian or German raging Tims out there in the big bad world of European football).
We need to look beyond the parochial focus we have had if we are going to recover and grow. Evidence of a strategy that has as its objective developing us into a consistently competitive European club is what we need, and appropriate tactical decisions and structural changes to deliver that strategy.
Irritating thing is that almost guarantees domestic success as a by-product anyway – that lack of vision and strategic commitment to grow has been the singularly most frustrating factor of the current Board’s limited tenure.
Been almost zero evidence of real vision for many years – probably since Tommy Burns was over in Amsterdam to study the Ajax model at that time. Our ‘strategy’, for what it is, has been strictly limited to ‘buy low – sell high’.
Strange, but it is so frustrating to think about the opportunities we have squandered in what has been a historical second 9-in-a-row period.
HH
BGFC
If we don’t get Eddie Howe….someone else will….then watch him FLY
BGFC,
I could not agree more, they have failed in their duty to improve and instead they downsized at every opportunity.
31003 I just dont get him, I honestly dont. Why wasnt he snapped up while at Bournemouth if he was all that.
I dont mean to piss on your chips and I do apologise, but saying that I’ve been wrong before and no doubt I will be wrong again.
Who knows, just not for me and I’ve been getting shot down for months on here every time I mentioned a continental manager. I think we need to move abroad as I’ve said before we cant afford English players and therefore dont see the point in appointing an english manager.
N&V
BGFC, I forgot to say big TT is a stone mad Tim.
He used to sneak out of school to see them training.
😁😁😁
Apart from Deila, who was the cheapest manager we could have got, or Jaansen, or Venglos, all cheap options, do you think the board will go for a continental whose stock is on the rise and would cost real money? Do you think a decent Continental manager, whose stock is high would come to the backwater that the Scottish League is? Do you think there’s one out there that wouldn’t rather have a pop at the yellow brick road of the English Premiership who would come to us? And if there was, would his stock rise with us?
Of course Tuchel or the likes would be great. PSG to Celtic. Offer him £10m per annum. Still no chance. Eddie Howe is good AND much more realistic
PITYMEVIN, Salve salve ;- Thank you for your very civil comment on my post, much appreciated. I have absolutely no Knowledge of the machinations of Celtic PLC, I am just looking at all the different factors which may come to bear on the club going forward. Off to my pit now I hope you keep well and safe.
Greenwells
In absentia lucis, Tenebrae vincunt
PITYMEVIN on 22ND JANUARY 2021 12:54 AM
TT the Tim ? OK, I can buy that :-))