Living within your means still resisted

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Michel Platini’s Financial Fair Play initiative at Uefa has been one of the more inspiring developments at the top of our game for decades.  It brought spending into line with income throughout the English game and punished what Platini called financial doping.

It has been so effective, Platini now promises to relax the rules.  The blame does not all sit with Platini.  Uefa are dealing with 10 legal challenges to the rules, with complainant clubs citing European Law in their defence.  The big football powers are split.  The English appear in favour of FPP (Manchester City aside), while many stressed clubs across Europe are in opposition.

The concept of living within your means is still resisted in our game, not just in barred hold-outs in Scotland.

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  1. Oldtim.

     

    Sorry to hear of the loss of your brother.

     

    May he rest in peace.

     

    Stay strong my cyber friend.

     

    Hail hail.

  2. Anyone looking for a ticket for Sunday, could have one,South Stand just behind the dugouts – about 8 rows back. H H Hebcelt

  3. I was Blind now I see.

     

     

    Tis a shame that Louis van G,

     

    Cannae see, that

     

     

    Danny Blind is trying passes that noone else can see.

     

     

    NirBitton.csc

  4. patmcgrathtakesapenalty on

    Tonyd

     

     

    Brutal, the two of them finding reserves of strength they never knew they had.

     

     

    If memory serves me well, some rounds from the Frazier – Ali Thriller in Manila are up there with this battle.

  5. Lennon n Mc....Mjallby on

    Celtic will always play fair with other clubs in the pursuit of success with FFP constraints or not.

     

     

    Clubs from Ibrox have proven they don’t and won’t.

     

     

    Only time will tell,much like the last time and in Scottish football history will most probably repeat itself.

     

     

    The Humph was right where Sevco are concerned.

     

     

    Celtic just need to be Celtic and we’ll be alright.

  6. Of course some of our away fans misbehave. I was in a square with hundreds of fans outside an Irish Pub in Barcelona and saw one “Supporter” glass another one in the face, Later on before the game was in a small family pub full of Celts where we were being well treated. This very hardy looking drunk Celt sitting near me suddenly stood up and gave the hanging lamp shade a thump sending it spinning crazily from the ceiling. I stood up and caught it steadying it. My fellow fan who was about 30 years younger and twice as big, sticks his face in mine and glares, then stands up and hits the lamp shade even harder, Message sent, stop it again and its you and not the lampshade will go spinning. I am not ashamed to say, I just stood up left my drink and shook my head and walked out. P.S. He had about 6 mates with him and none of them saw fit to intervene either.

  7. Jimbo67

     

     

    glad to hear things went ok with your procedure this morning.

     

     

    HH

  8. a BBC breakdown of the top 50 scottish companies and thier relationship with the living wage

     

     

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/articles/MVD54KqFTxf7Mr1wG4QBk1/who-pays-the-living-wage

     

     

    i welcome last nights documentary for bringing attention to the living wage,however i am that our club was singled out by the BBC.

     

    I thought the programme could have been better put together and more investigative journalism towards the top 50 instead of the above link.This is a serious issue and i think BBC hun thought they could go down the populist route of indulging our club once again.

     

     

    remember the BBC trust have the myth built in and take no dissension to the cheat.

     

     

    HH

  9. An Tearmann:

     

     

    If our club paid the living wage then the BBC could not have singled us out.

     

     

    It is not what others do, or do not, it is what we do… or do not.

     

     

    We brought it on ourselves and it is not a Thugs and Thieves story.

  10. Fair Play Rules, except those which have stopped the Ibrox express in it’s tracks, have little bearing on the football backwater that is Scotland.

     

     

    We will probably always fall at the CL qualifying hurdle in future – therefore the only fair play that should interest us is the attempt to have a country’s champions automatically included in the Group.

     

     

    It will never happen and over time we will sink into the third/fourth tier of European nations.

     

     

    When teams in our own tuppence halfpenny league, who recruit from the likes of Kendal Town, can stifle our ambitions, I’m afraid the game is.a bogey.

     

     

    Cut our cloth, skim the top off our one third too big stadium – realise our position, forget about looking outside Scotland for players – invest in youth, youth, and youth again…and accept where we now are in European football – God bless the Lions, we will NEVER see their likes again HH

  11. Some Celtic fans at Murrayfield behaved pretty poorly when Legia scored. They turned on a few Legia fans half of whom were women and forced them out stand with a torrent of foul abuse.

     

    An hour before the game the main body of Legia fans were heavily policed and escorted into the ground. Quite a hard-core aggressive bunch. But I suppose thats no different to many clubs these days.

  12. Swings & Roundabouts – put someone on minimum wage onto living wage and the lose commensurate amounts of Tax Credits and Housing & Council Tax Benefit.

     

     

    Why are Celtic singled-out? – partly due to those among our support who ‘shouted it from the rooftops’ and pointed at Celtic – why all the faux outrage.

  13. sunny calmachie on

    Any of you ghirls or ghuys heading to Paradise on Sunday,be aware of roadworks on Carntyne road at Rigby st, outside of Saint Bernadettes chapel,

     

    There are 3 way traffic lights in operation,

     

     

    Happy Celticing

  14. sunny calmachie

     

     

    Signs up for roadworks 23/24 May at London rd/Causwayside st as well ,mate.

  15. **Politico post Scroll by**

     

     

    ernie lynch11:11 on19 May, 2015

     

     

    Nationalism is divisive?

     

     

    Who knew?

     

     

    As divisive as economic incompetence?

     

    As divisive as not explaining economic incompetence?

     

    As divisive as not taking responsibility for said social;economic and political incompetence from Blair onwards?.

     

     

    The electorate have spoken.

     

    to the point that for the future of the left in the uk it is crunch time.

     

    the assumption of a labour block vote has gone in Scotland,possibly forever,

     

    the poor and the underclass need a strong voice,not a marketing exercise,

     

    or a party afraid to even mention the term ‘working class’,in the face of the ‘rollback’ under

     

    Cameron and his fagging Eton set.

     

     

    Economic incompetence is Why Labour did not get in Ernie,nothing else.

     

    a betrayal completed while walking into the lobbies with Tories over Welfare cuts,

     

    or mentioning better health stats for children whilst blowing them to bits in Iraq.

     

     

    I wish The Labour Party well it has to start working for its core voter instead of assuming it has its vote.

     

     

    good day Sir :-)

     

     

    HH

  16. bamboo

     

     

    15:11 on 19 May, 2015

     

     

    Some Celtic fans at Murrayfield behaved pretty poorly when Legia scored. They turned on a few Legia fans half of whom were women and forced them out stand with a torrent of foul abuse.

     

    An hour before the game the main body of Legia fans were heavily policed and escorted into the ground. Quite a hard-core aggressive bunch. But I suppose thats no different to many clubs these days.

     

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    I was angry inside, that Legia supporters and Celts were sitting there together, especially when the 2nd goal went in.

     

     

    Fairs fair, if all is well. At that moment we were looking at an even worse treatment of a Celtic Manager than the Tony Mowbray era. The cheating scum really ramped it up that year, what a year that was.

     

     

    God Bless Tony Mowbray.

  17. mr pastry

     

     

    15:15 on 19 May, 2015

     

    Swings & Roundabouts – put someone on minimum wage onto living wage and the lose commensurate amounts of Tax Credits and Housing & Council Tax Benefit.

     

     

    Why are Celtic singled-out? – partly due to those among our support who ‘shouted it from the rooftops’ and pointed at Celtic – why all the faux outrage.

     

     

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    While I was collecting signatures for the Living Wage petition (yes I was one of those shouting from the rooftops) several Celtic employees thanked me for the efforts we were making, stating that they were desperate for it to be introduced.

     

     

    At the very least Celtic should have been offering it to those who wanted it.

  18. Hi Paul67,

     

     

    “Michel Platini’s Financial Fair Play initiative at Uefa has been one of the more inspiring developments at the top of our game for decades.

     

     

    Got to agree and the rolling back is a real pity for the game.

     

     

    However it must be a minefield to legislate for. Hopefully FFP isn’t rolled back too far and the basic spirit of the code is adhered to.

     

     

    Hail Hail

  19. voguepunter

     

     

    15:31 on 19 May, 2015

     

     

    sunny calmachie

     

     

    Signs up for roadworks 23/24 May at London rd/Causwayside st as well ,mate.

     

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    21st May

     

     

    Don’t take a trip at peak times on the M74 towards Glesga.

  20. Burgas Hoops on

    The main road up to Mulga (pronounced Moooola) is down to single lane for 8 weeks -)

  21. sunny calmachie on

    VP,

     

     

    Glad to know that we are keeping the wheels of the Celtic juggernaut rumbling along to Paradise,

     

     

    Happy Celticing

  22. kitalba15:05 on19 May, 2015

     

     

    An Tearmann:

     

     

    If our club paid the living wage then the BBC could not have singled us out.

     

     

    It is not what others do, or do not, it is what we do… or do not.

     

     

    We brought it on ourselves and it is not a Thugs and Thieves story.

     

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    I agree with you,we should implement the living wage and it being of value to the Celtic ethos Kit and i take your second line point about being a leader and setting our own standards

     

     

    I disagree we brought it on ourselves,from my limited knowledge we are working towards implementation.It is complex question in that it involves the benefits/credit system which does not operate as quickly as a companies wage system and could result in economic disadvantage to those who work.

     

     

    I thought it would be better to door step those comanies in the top50 who run a similar policy to Celtics as well as those who treated the subject with contempt,i did not find they got in about them,apart from link provided,instead they went to the Football industry were ‘a debate is already occurring’ according to the programme.lazy journalism-go were the debate is not even whispered.

     

     

    You are maybe correct kit,it is not ‘thugs and theives’ but it is the drip drip, slur slur, taint taint, low intensity soiling on our club that i am calling out and this is an example of it.

     

     

    hope your well mate

     

     

    HH

  23. All the Living Wage, and those against punters might try the following for size.

     

     

    What follows is delusional ranting by a highly dangerous unreconstructed Trades Union dinosaur. Any, even passing resemblances to actual people, events or organisations are totally accidental and absolutely coincidental.

     

    A lady in her forties had a chequered personal history that would mean that it was unlikely that she would ever be able to gain employment via the normal interview processes etc.

     

    However, all was not lost and help was just at hand.

     

    Around about tea time one evening recently she was contacted by an employment agency which has loose links with the government.

     

    Apparently, a no questions asked job was being made immediately available to her. Not only was the job instantly available, but the employment agency in question would even free gratis and for nothing, transport her to it at six o’clock the following morning.

     

    Next morning with two other agency chauffeured prospective employees, she was delivered to a fairly remotely situated food processing plant.

     

    Despite operations there being conducted in a refrigerated environment, the plant’s owners apparently felt no need to cosset employees by supplying them with warm protective clothing such as fleeces or any such nonsense.

     

    After about seven or eight hours food processing, apparently for the upper end of the market, the near frozen trio was then informed that, presumably in the interests of hygiene, they would be required too spend a further two hours of hosing down and cleaning work surfaces.

     

    At the end of a very long cold day, they were then informed that their collective presence would not be required again.

     

    Rubbing salt in their wounds, the government connected employment agency then designated their experience as having been a training day, and therefore not one thin dime for their efforts would they receive.

     

    Although I cannot be sure, it is not inconceivable, that having nominally accepted work, any current benefits they are in receipt of may well be sanctioned.

     

    Once again I must emphasise that all the above is not only fictitious, but the events retailed, never have, never could and never, never, will occur in David Cameron’s soon to be Trades Union Free, hard worker friendly Britain.

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