Living within your means still resisted

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Michel Platini’s Financial Fair Play initiative at Uefa has been one of the more inspiring developments at the top of our game for decades.  It brought spending into line with income throughout the English game and punished what Platini called financial doping.

It has been so effective, Platini now promises to relax the rules.  The blame does not all sit with Platini.  Uefa are dealing with 10 legal challenges to the rules, with complainant clubs citing European Law in their defence.  The big football powers are split.  The English appear in favour of FPP (Manchester City aside), while many stressed clubs across Europe are in opposition.

The concept of living within your means is still resisted in our game, not just in barred hold-outs in Scotland.

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  1. the glorious balance sheet on

    Mr Pastry

     

     

    Did you previously post on here under the name Alfie Noakes?

  2. Oldtim,

     

    sorry to hear about the loss of your brother.

     

    My sincere condolences.

     

     

    Gerry

  3. Mr Pastry @ 15:08,

     

     

    You seem to miss the point regarding the basics of Football.

     

     

    Although there are huge Clubs vying for the few top honours Football has always been relative.

     

     

    Wycombe Wanderers supporters will be winding their way to Wembley this weekend, hoping their team will play their hearts out for a place in the third tier of English Football and if they manage it the Club and the town will be rightfully proud of this achievement.

     

     

    That’s what Football’s about. That’s why fans turn up week in week out to see Albion Rovers – they obviously want to see their team do as well as they can but whether they’re mid-table or promoted they still have supporters.

     

     

    Celtic will likewise always have supporters who see them more than just a Club and will always regard themselves as Celtic supporters, win lose or draw.

     

     

    Rangers proved just how harmful financial doping can be to Football. A Club that felt it was more important than the rest of Scottish Football put together, up to and including the National team. By fair means and foul distorted Scottish Football and bent it out of shape.

     

     

    Scotland can never be a Footballing back water, it’s achievements and contributions are already engraved on the history of Association Football.

     

     

    Sure the actions of Rangers in their last 25 years of existence and their placemen within the SFA and governing bodies ensured Scotland underachieved at a crucial time, when European politics and Global markets would conspire to bring the most far reaching changes to European Football.

     

     

    However, Rangers are liquidated and Scottish Football is in recovery mode. It will take a few Seasons yet and they’ll be ups and downs – but if you are a supporter you’ll saviour the ride.

     

     

    Hail Hail

  4. If Celtic signed up to the Living Wage scheme, does this mean that they must pay the Living Wage rate to ALL employees in order to be accredited? It may not suit every individual employee – some of whom might lose existing benefits.

     

     

    It’s estimated that if employers paid the Living Wage, the government would be £4billion better off because they would have taken more in tax and NI in and wouldn’t have to pay out so much in benefits.

     

     

    Just looking at the Living Wage Foundation website, it is being championed by Boris Johston, Iain Duncan-Smith and a director from KPMG. Forgive me for asking a cynical question but when I see those names next to an initiative, it makes me wonder.

  5. NatKnow

     

    Just looking at the Living Wage Foundation website, it is being championed by Boris Johston, Iain Duncan-Smith and a director from KPMG. Forgive me for asking a cynical question but when I see those names next to an initiative, it makes me wonder.

     

     

    The answer is simple.

     

    Just as the minimum wage did before it, the still inadequate Living Wage, would become the going rate.

  6. Following the submission of an amendment to its Official Return by Rangers Football Club, the Board of the Scottish FA has considered the Fit and Proper status of Mr Dave King as a director of the club in respect of Article 10.2 of the Articles of Association.

     

     

    Mr King provided substantial information in relation to the matters set out at Article 10.2 (h) and 10.2 (j) namely:

     

     

    · He has been convicted within the last 10 years of (i) an offence liable to imprisonment of two years or over, (ii) corruption or (iii) fraud and;

     

     

    · He has been “a director of a club in membership of any National Association within the 5-year period preceding such club having undergone an insolvency event”.

     

     

    In considering the request, the Board of the Scottish FA has sought and received specialist independent legal advice, both in Scotland and South Africa, in respect of Mr King’s conviction further to the South African Income Tax Act and in relation to his previous involvement as a Director of the club. It has also received significant documentation from relevant authorities both within the UK and South Africa.

     

     

    The scale of this due diligence is unprecedented but befitting the complexities of the consideration placed before the Board. During this exercise both Mr King and the club were fully co-operative and responded to all questions put to them by the Scottish FA.

     

     

    On the basis of this advice presented to it, and having considered all submissions received from Mr King and the club in respect of this matter, the Scottish FA Board granted an approval, conditional upon further submissions from Mr King in respect of documented agreements with the appropriate authorities in South Africa.

     

     

    The Scottish FA can confirm it has now received this supplementary documentation in full and the Board is satisfied Mr King is Fit and Proper in terms of Article 10.2.

  7. My credit card is screaming for mercy after a week of plastic pounding.

     

     

    Overseas SB renewed, new Balance GMS jersey ordered and my St. Pauli gear arrived in the mail courtesy of Magdalena- Vielen Dank.

     

     

    Let’s hope I have enough money left noo to actually afford a flight home, so I can actually use my book!

  8. sunny calmachie on

    Petec

     

     

    Good to know that you are also looking out for the Celtic juggernaut,

     

     

    I could also add that the policing of traffic after games at Paradise is amateurish and frustrating,

     

     

    Happy Celticing

  9. North Cyprus (formerly Baku) Bhoy on

    Al Capone would have got the gig, if he’d been available!

  10. Are we excusing what seems like clear evidence of BBC bias against Celtic because some think the club deserve it?

     

     

    Just asking rhetorically.

     

     

    Celtic are not one of the “fifty of Scotland’s biggest employers” which was what, in their opening sentence, BBC Scotland claimed their investigation was about.

     

    Celtic are not even in the top 500 of Scotland’s biggest employers…here’s the list

     

     

    http://www.scribd.com/doc/119782827/Scotland-s-top-500-companies#scribd

     

     

    Paying or not paying The Living Wage is a separate discussion for me. Conflating the two issues is fraught with huge challenges, and defending Celtic against media bias is not approval of Celtic’s policy ref The Living Wage.

     

     

    As soon as people justify negative discrimination because the object of the discrimination deserved it…..

     

     

    Just change the object of the discrimination to a racial group or a social group…

     

     

    Is this what Paul meant when he entitled the leader

     

     

    “Living within your means still resisted”

     

     

    HH

  11. How can you be judged fit and proper by an organisation which in itself is far from fit and proper?

     

     

    It’s no surprise really and neither will it be when Sevco is challenging us this year or next.

     

     

    The cheating and rule breaking will be ramped up to new heights.

  12. Time for more chickens to come home to roost. King, if he ever shows up, does not have anything like the acumen or the wealth to save Sevco from mediocrity. He is nirvana for the media, a real Ranjurs man. Let them fawn while we rack up 10IAR.

  13. the glorious balance sheet 16:14

     

     

    and

     

     

    chairbhoy 16:25

     

     

    With all the latest monikers showing up on here with an increasing frequency, it’s hard to scroll by quick enough.

     

     

    Then again, maybe that’s their game anyway.

  14. quonno

     

    16:36 on

     

    19 May, 2015

     

    NatKnow

     

    Just looking at the Living Wage Foundation website, it is being championed by Boris Johston, Iain Duncan-Smith and a director from KPMG. Forgive me for asking a cynical question but when I see those names next to an initiative, it makes me wonder.

     

     

    The answer is simple.

     

    Just as the minimum wage did before it, the still inadequate Living Wage, would become the going rate.

     

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    I get that mate, but it’s more than that – the basis of the calculation changes therefore the rate will go up every year depending on the cost of living. All that sounds good to me – as long as people are not being disadvantaged. On the surface you may receive a rise in your basic wage, but could also lose a variety of benefits as a result of no longer qualifying. This is why it is being supported by IDS and BoJo – it costs the government less, puts the responsibility on employers and means that people can no longer claim benefits. Not because they’re a really nice bunch of guys?

  15. Syd Negakev

     

     

    Wouldn’t we all mate, if Glibby comes in and throws 50 mil at Rankness I’ll eat my CQN beanie, he strikes me as a real OP Money player but hey ho the Sevvies will be lapping up the SMSM’s “here we go mission stop Timmy” stories over the next few weeks:))

     

     

    Nae bank, nae Nomad, nae chance:))

  16. mike in toronto on

    Not surprised by the SFA decision on DK.

     

     

    And wouldn’t be disappointed, as we know it will be more of the same…. he, like everyone since and including DM, will rob them blind (and, incredibly, they will thank him for it!)

     

     

    My only reservation is that it will mean more of the same …. old boys club and cheating at the SFA/SPFL … and, unfortunately, those that run our club has shown themselves to be, at best, unwilling to address this.

     

     

    So … more of the same for Scottish football…. and we wonder why people only want to pay peanuts for TV rights ….

  17. Neustadt-Braw on

    hahahahhaha King has no excuses now ….the Monkey Hordes will be wanting a splash of the cash….they will as usual be very very disappointed…..Big Michael will be grinning now …but in a right lets play sort of Billionaire way……a lovely entertaining summer and beyond awaits ….

     

     

    lots and lots of Monkeys on the Car ……brilliant

     

     

    awfy braw

  18. The governing bodies of football are just as corrupt, jaded and mismanaged as deidco was back in the day.

     

     

    It’s just a matter of when, not if, their entire hoose of brown envelope junkets comes tumbling doon.

     

     

    The greater good will win through in the end, it always does.

  19. Now that a convicted criminal has been passed fit and proper

     

    the fix is in

     

    They will win promotion im convinced

     

    And spend spend spend like they’ve always done to a title in about 2 seasons

  20. Greeninbingley on

    The SFA says Dave King is a fit and proper person to run The Rangers International football club.

     

     

    What an all-round relief that is.

  21. the glorious balance sheet on

    How can someone be convicted by a judge of 44 counts of tax evasion, fraud and racketeering, and in so doing be called “mendacious, a glib and shameless liar” by the same judge, yet be considered “fit and proper” by the SFA?

  22. !!Bada Bing!! on

    syd negakev

     

     

    16:51 on 19 May, 2015How can you be judged fit and proper by an organisation which in itself is far from fit and proper?

     

     

    Quote of the day

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