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An Dun
I took to mean from P67 comments that he meant that no one within the club or wider Scottish game has the skillsets we need to proceed from here.
Look what Leicester did – their target was in a job and doing very well, they told him to sign up or they’d move on. They paid the compensation and gave themselves a 5 month head start on the next season.
And we’re being told to put up with Lennon till May ?!
What planet does P67 live on ? How many season tickets does Lawwell think he’ll sell with Lennon in place ?
A house divided will fall — we have been here before.
PL and DD thought it was a good idea to have an internal conflicyt with BR.
Look how that turned out.
Now we have DD and PL having a not so internal war with NL.
Have we learned nothing?
Also why is P67 given prominence by RS — unofficial voice of PL / the club.
We now have a club exec team who are more interested in winning argumemnts with their manager than they are about moving the club forward.
We are heading into legal territory.
This is not good for us and it is not good for NL’s health.
Surely we have a grown up at the club?
Mature reflection this morning after last night’s humiliation? Pretty much the same now as at the final whistle, well if truth be told after Livingston equalised, apathy, resignation really all the words which express watching not only a car crash in slow motion and being helpless to do anything about it but the Celtic board and manager/background staff and players piling on the agony by asking ’what car crash?’
My real issue here is yet again the CEO and Board know there is a fundamental problem (they have to, right?) but have absolutely no idea how to go about it, no plan, no insight, no solutions. I think its even worse than we think, it could get a whole lot worse with the team and Lenny limping on until the end of the season and then European humiliation yet again.
This may be a controversial opinion but I honestly think that with the proper selection of a CH at the start of the season we would not be in this position. I agree the manager has to go and I agree that the squad is dreadful, we need a full clear out, the only ones I would keep if they want to stay would be Eddie, Calum, Turnbull and Soro.
But I honestly believe that a decent journey man ch rather than the overated overpaid bombscare Duffy would easily have seen us being at least 12/15 points better off than we currently are, the goals we have started to lose since he was brought into the team are incredible. The fact that he was allowed to finish the game last night tells you all you need to know about the shambles we are both on and off the park.
One man can damage a team particularly in the team spine.
AD
I’m only saying what I heard/interpreted.
I wouldn’t want to put words in Paul67’s mouth.
I think there was a recognition that retaining NL going forward is not an option.
I’m beginning to agree that, as stated earlier by some, NL wants sacked and DD/PL want him to resign to save the payout.
Lennon staying in place is our board effectively writing off the CL qualifiers. Possibly even the Europa qualifiers.
“The whole team stayed on the pitch, no one was sent off except for Scott Brown” – Neil Lennon.
Sorry but it made me chuckle and tbh that’s all I have left in the tank with this sh*tshow.
HH
My real issue here is yet again the CEO and Board know there is a fundamental problem (they have to, right?) but have absolutely no idea how to go about it, no plan, no insight, no solutions. I think its even worse than we think, it could get a whole lot worse with the team and Lenny limping on until the end of the season and then European humiliation yet again.
So we are going to finish high enough to qualify for europe. ?????????????????
PS not looking for a fight but as i said “at the BRIGHTON CONFERENCE” do people know what they are watching.
Squire Danaher,
I concur with that. His post-match interviews are just part of his exit negotiations. He’s been briefed to make this a sacking.
HH
The issue is not NL — it is DD and PL doing what they always do.
Count the pennies as the pounds march out the door.
If this continues where is the club going to be?
We have wasted this transfer window with no efforts to manage / improve the squad.
Now we are going to have a 4 month civil war played out on the park.
What are we going to be left with?
What are DD and PL going to be left with?
This is now worse than Carthage.
Huge rebuild…… Goalies.. All poor…… Two full backs needed….. I’d take Ajer in and say… Stay…. 30k a week and captain.. Might not fancy it but worth a try…. Julien I’d keep.. Bitton great cover squad player remember squad players are needed….. Midfield gives me hope… Turnbull Soro Mcgregor.. Good players.. Frustrating Frimpong I’d keep.. Wee jamsie obviously a keep.. Missed him massively…. Has playing RC killed him?.. Or is he just a twat… Probably sell as we’ll need dosh for rebuild… Tho midfield has a chance Need a couple…. Hard. good passers mobile… Up front….. Presuming Eddie wants to go…. We need a whole front line…. I’d sell Ajeti and get someone who wants to be here…. Rogic time is up football moves quickly.. As even a team like livi proved… Ntcham… A player… But sell… Doesn’t want to be here……. I’d like to think the new man has been approached and is doing his homework as we speak….. Or is that wishful thinking???
I think Scott Brown was VERY Stupid…but a Yellow Card would have been enough. Livvy player made the most of it, and Collum just couldnt wait to produce the Red Card.
Two ” forms” of Cheating..in MY Book.
I honestly thought it was shocking that the game wasnt stopped last night, for the Lines to be cleared, and that is NOT an excuse for our poor performance and result.
Before the game the Livvy manager said that his players Trained on that Plastic Pitch every day, even with the snow on Top it clearly showed that Livvy KNEW how to play on that surface more than Celtic did.
I have seen NOTHING from Ajeti or Klimala whenever they haver had a chance to shine, to suggest that they are anywhere near Celtic Class ( Apart from Klimalas great goal when he was halved in two) a few months ago.
It was ( yet again) Criminal the manner in which Celtic lost that first goal last night…NOT ONE Celtic defender taking responsibility and attacking the Ball.
IF we still have NO fans allowed next season inside Celtic Park because of Covid, and given the shocking season Celtic have had so far this season….I cant see too many Celtic Supporters paying Season Book Money ” UPFRONT” for next season to watch games on TV/Computer ?
Its a season to forget, but sadly Celtic supporters have LONG Memories, and The Celtic Board may find out ” How Long”…..when it comes to Season Book Renewal time.
I wish I had the answers…but sadly I dont.
HH.
It feels like watching a soap opera
Meant to be has playing RC wide right killed him
Neil Lennon is a mercenary, Peter only got him with some heavy contract clauses by the sounds. 1.2m pay off for being a failure and not trying a leg is not bad.
Point me to one thing that makes this guy a legend this term? He saw a chance of a last big payout that our fly ceo took full advantage of.
It all lies with the board for employing him in the first place but he could have walked months ago if he cared about the club as some say also if his mental health was struggling he could have walked months ago.
All about the money for Neil and always has been. Why put your family and yourself through this again.
He does deserve his pay out and DD has been made a fool of again by his ceo. If I was DD I would be embarrassed by his ceo’s decisions or is Peter also looking to get a payout the same as Neil?
What a mess.
Mental. Csc
KLV
Dejavu All Over Again, when will it end? Not good for my beauty sleep.
Today is when we have to start allover.
QAnon — Nobody has been arrested.
CFC — EH has not be announced.
Has anyone ever seen DD and DT in the same room at the same time?
I think we should be told.
Barkas last night looked genuinely frightened every time the ball came into his box.
Has he got within a post code of a save since he joined ?
£5 million up in smoke and were haggling over Lennon’s pay out ?
is Mr Howe in office yet and picked up all those playing cards scattered on the floor.
Lennon stays we gamble with second place. His comments last night reeked of arrogance and self delusion.
Kevinlasvegss… If it was all about the money…. He wouldn’t have left Leicester….. He’s got a contract… He is quite rightly sticking by it…. As you would or I would… To suggest otherwise is complete nonsense
Still hurting after our latest shambles. They way things are going now , the only certainty is , they are going to need bigger barriers outside the stadium.
Broonie , a straight red every day , you can’t lash out and strike an opponent and don’t compare with others it dosent wash , he was trying to play the hard man , dinosaur .
Cannot understand why Brown lashed out like that, we have all seen him take so much more from opponents and not react like that. Self destruct all round by the looks of things. Also noticed Turnbull and Griffiths when they came off the park…….
Are we to honestly believe that NL will be in situ till the summer? If so, goodbye season ticket renewals for many, hope the reserve list will pick up the slack, will pay at the gate when work permits instead of £600 for a handful of games.
Don’t listen to radio shortbread so can’t comment on Paul’s interview.
From comments attributed to him on here though the unpalatable truth is – a guy with a decent but still modest track record (covering only 3 years) at a small club – does not want to come to our massive club.
Therein lies a big problem.
With my simplistic hat on I’ve often mused
“In the 21st century, Celtic have achieved most success when a manager with previous top flight experience in England was at the helm – Martin, Gordon, Brendan”
“We’ve done less well with managers with no top flight experience in England – Tony, Ronnie, Neil”
“Ergo – get a manager with top flight English experience EVERY TIME”.
Simple. But not easy. And getting more difficult it seems.
I could live with Eddie Howe but his pedigree is well short of those 3 mentioned above – and he doesn’t want to come?
Sobering reality check.
BTW – appeal Broonie’s red card. Send side by side video of his action and Morelos yellow card action at Tannidice.
Hail hail
Keep The Faith
It was a red. The Morelos one should also been red.
Listened to Lennons post match interview..dont know why cos iv heard it all before.the guys on auto pilot repeating the same shit game after game.He must think we are all ignorant about football and can pull the wool over our eyes.Somebody somewhere deal with this and put him and us out our misery.
HH
” TURKEYBHOY on 20TH JANUARY 2021 11:16 PM
I worked in Dubai for 2 years,and it never affected me as bad as it has our team,after only 5 days.”
:-))))
Right. I am going to watch the highlights (!!!) on Sportscene catch-up and see if I can pick three for Jobo.
Wish me well:-)
If we cannot attract an Englishman, why not someone from the Continent? There must be plenty. I guessed the writing was on the wall when Lennybhoy said the other day that Howe was wanted but it was be no means certain he would come.
FAVOURITE UNCLE
So we are going to finish high enough to qualify for Europe?????????????????
PS not looking for a fight but as i said “at the BRIGHTON CONFERENCE” do people know what they are watching.
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Agreed that’s why I said stick with what we have it’s going to get a whole lot worse
A couple of months ago I thought it was bad, but we’d been through worse before. However, this is fast getting to be up there as one of the worst seasons ever (considering how strong we were not so long ago) . The substitutions last night were truly woeful. How could he take Ajer off! We lost any impetus after those substitutions. The longer this goes on the bigger the task for any new manager.
SQUIRE DANAHER on 21ST JANUARY 2021 8:42 AM
Thanks for letting us know Squire. I thought that might happen.
Well it’s time for me to take an extended break from Celtic Quick News. I’ll be back when we appoint a new manager. The blog is taking over my life and I’ve actually got other important matters to attend to (even during lockdown 😀) Take care everybody no matter your views on Celtic and stay safe.
Hail! Hail!
PARKHEADCUMSALFORD on 21ST JANUARY 2021 10:00 AM
If we cannot attract an Englishman, why not someone from the Continent? There must be plenty. I guessed the writing was on the wall when Lennybhoy said the other day that Howe was wanted but it was be no means certain he would come.
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This seems to me again of ‘we’ve no idea what we’re doing here, so we’ll look at the telly and see who we might fancy and is unemployed and go for him’. There’s no network really is there? No real scouting system, no corporate plan, no strategy, just ask somebody, who’ll ask somebody else for someone’s phone number, pathetic really
one of the problems with Duff y is that he thinks if he gets his head to the ball and makes any kind of contact that he has done his job , he even tries to head the ball when its nearly on the ground, any decent centre back/defender would control the ball and start an attack, Duff y is also a football dinosaur .
Livingstone without 7 first team players!