The most important news concerning John Guidetti is no longer whether Fifa recognise his registration, it’s whether John is keen to remain in Glasgow beyond May next year.
The player is not eligible for the Europa League group stage, and it is not critically important he joins for Premiership football in the first half of the season. He can join in January for the league run-in, and hopefully the latter part of the Europa League, but as we know, the next major event on Celtic’s horizon is next season’s Champions League qualifiers, which then out-of-contract Guidetti would be a valuable addition for.
Whatever the Fifa outcome, the player will be planning where he wants to play beyond this season and it’s unlikely Scotland will have previously featured heavily in his mind. Monday was a bit of a shambles for the player but he got to see how Celtic operate. Hopefully the positive sentiment will convince him this is a platform he can build his career on.
It’s just incredible that Mike Ashley had Charles Green in such a place that he was able to secure naming rights of The Stadium Formerly Referred to as Ibrox for £1. Whether he exercises this right or not is moot. The fact that he can, means that Newco Rangers have to accommodate him in the knowledge he is able to call in his marker at any time.
The only curious thing, is why was this particular piece of dirty washing hung out at this time?
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TinyTim
13:27 on 4 September, 2014
John Guidetti has had serial injury problems.
He is the perfect example of a player that you would want on loan ,with an option to buy at a pre arranged price.
Celtic dithered because the Septovic deal came through at the last gasp.
We probably don’t have it in our budget to pay the wages of the two players without releasing another.
Celtic were in total control of the situation.
Celtic have gotten the outcome that they wanted.
TT
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I’ve been posting that all week.
It was always going to be first come first served and the other would be binned.
The only problem is that if Scepovic gets injured we are back to square one.
PL was never going to sign 2 strikers.
Man City are being blamed for taking their time getting the required documentation to us.
Why would they do that if they wanted the player moved on?
Someone is telling porkies.
And there’s Paul67 saying we don’t need him ’til January, ffs!
I give up.
That was my longerst ever post!
Thanks TT!
longest
Celtic Park
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Built by the poor, to be starved by the rich.
Ernie 1324
not 100% sure but my best guesses to your answer would be
How do you sell naming rights to a stadium? By entering into a contract giving the other party exclusive rights to insist that the stadium is renamed (and referred to in all official literature) to a name to be selected by the buyer , possibly from a pre-agreed list of names , for an agreed period of time.
Is it a sale that would survive administration? Not unless secured against ,say, the stadium or some other heritable asset and , even then , – and this for me is the interesting bit – the contract is likely to provide for payment of an agreed sum or liquidate damages , if the club/ administrator / liquidator fails to implement the renaming.
Would it survive liquidation? See above
Would it prevent anyone granting a security over the stadium? It might but only for a future security against the stadium and then that would depend on the ranking of the securities , usually which one came first.
The name of the stadium is largely irrelevant from a security point of view given that properties now have their own unique identifier number at the Land Register – a Title number – which remains constant irrespective of the name of the property. An analogy would be your own house – suppose you changed it from Dunroamin’ To Nia- Roo you would still have to pay your mortgage.
Why would CG sell for a pound?
A cynic might say that the whole purpose of this was to give Mike Ashley a “right ” to rename the stadium , secured against the stadium or other assets , full in the knowledge that it was never likely to be implemented so that any liquidate penalties in the contract would then kick in , allowing the security to be called up and the property repossessed.
All total speculation but they are through the looking glass over there…
jamesgang
13:46 on 4 September, 2014
natknow
13:20 on 4 September, 2014
Granny Macs Bhoy
13:16 on 4 September, 2014
Was going to send page 3 of this wee link (if it works) to my zombie friends but think it may send their paranoia even further through the roof.
http://www.fifa.com/mm/document/affederation/president/02/42/73/70/benediction26_08_2014_neutral.pdf
HH GMB :-D
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Belter! :-)))
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Never mind the paranoia.
Oh the irony too!
Release a few wee doves over Rio and God will be happy and bless FIFA and the World Cup!
I now see the old song about being a bird flying over Sports Direct Govan in a while new light….
….and music…..loving the peace n love through a raga tip!
Mind all your hip replacements when you start a skanking!!!!!
HH jamesgang
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That diagram from a while back showing Cetlic Park’s underground tunnels connected to The Vatican and Glasgow City Council HQ looks to have been accurate after all! :-)
Re music, I got this on vinyl a few moths ago and it’s hardly been off the turntable :
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Social-Classics-Volume-Rockers-Uptown/dp/B00005QZF3
Good afternoon all
Sorry if this has been asked before, I bought my 3 game EL tickets this morning and was told, not my own seat but still in the main stand. Also, my ST would be activated for the 3 games. Anybody else experience this?
BT
Quick recovery young yin. KTF.
Weefra HH praying to Wee Oscar.
Philbhoy
13:48 on
4 September, 2014
I have had the same thoughts as you.
Philbhoy
longrest though is longer por cierto
If I am following the Guidetti loan move correctly the error was not Celtics it was Stoke city not sending the correct paperwork.Celtic had then to contact Man.City to get in touch with Stoke and get the correct paper work to Celtic so the error lies with Stoke City.On a totaly different point I am surprised to see Celtic supporters saying they are sorry for the poor Rangers fans.I have to say they brought on themselves and they were never sorry for Celtic fans when they cheated there way to nine in a row.Also there unpaid tax would have paid for more nurses teachers and policemen on the beat and while most of us paid our tax they didnt.I can truthfully say I hope they go bust again and they have to pull Ibrokes down and build a supermarket I am not a bitter man just an angry man that they up to now have got away with it. H.H.
Hunnerpee. Built by the ignorant, to be demolished by the spivs
Har de feckin’har har har!
Ashley paid a pound for the naming rights?
He was feckin done!
HH!!
Prince Buster ?
Used to buy his choons per mail order from a Hairdresser s in Harlesden .
Enjoy Yourself is nowhere near being his best choon . Remember it arriving and me giving it a twirl on the family Dansette —- cue my mother opining ————-oh what did you buy that for? ——-I ve got a much better better Doris Day. version of that song . We had the same conversation about the Prince s Rum and Coca Cola and The Andrews Sisters .
Mothers arent always right CSC
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Athur Boruc enters the Guinness book of Records for letting in the Longest Shot ever in a Football match..
Three Hundred and One Foot Six Inches..WOW..
Summa
the long wait is over
13:50 on 4 September, 2014
If the story about Green blowing £250,000 on legal fees to try to wriggle out of the deal is true then he appears to have been duped by Ashley, which makes me think the deal maybe isn’t terribly explicit.
I don’t suppose it’s worth the mental energy involved in trying to figure out what’s going on, it’s just too Byzantine.
No matter how the Happy Clappers dress it up, the whole Guidetti problem lies with trying to be smarter than smart and delaying business to the lat minute of transfer windows.
Had things been done sooner any errors on Man City’s part could have been easily rectified.
South of Tunis
Did your ma ever give a Big Up to Bing Crosby’s version of “Born to be Wild”?
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corkcelt
13:46 on
4 September, 2014
Summa, Why loan us Denayer, so.
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Come on..Did You Not see the Invisible Simile face on My Post..;=)
Summa
South Of Tunis
13:54 on 4 September, 2014
‘Enjoy Yourself is nowhere near being his best choon .’
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Naw. But it’s the only one that’s got lyrics that would wind up TD67.
Go to school
Learn the rules
Whoe! Whoe! Whoi! Whoi!
http://youtu.be/vqFf0q3ED4E
Alright folks, first time poster! Glorious day made all the more so because the sevconians are in pain & bealin! The reaper is back on his way to govan ;)
Getting a nasty whiff of hunnage
A pound, a pound, my Kingdom for a pound !
Mike Ashley was surely duped, when he paid a pound for the Ibrox naming rights, sure Craig Whyte bought the whole damn operation for a pound
Duped I tell ye, duped
Just for the record, I have absolutely no sympathy with any hun or sevconian over their clubs troubles, long may it rain over them!
Tell me this, when Charles Green “bought” the history, did he also buy the bit about not signing Catholics for almost a century? Or was that bit not included? Just wondering like!
Howabout, “the no seriously, I’ve been duped stadium” its kinda gotta a snappy ring to it.
On a lighter note. Wee Danny goes to confession. “Bless me father for I have sinned, I have wished that all Sevco supporters were dead and they never get into heaven.” Priest replies ” You should never wish death on anybody so for that you will say three Our Fathers and three Hail Marys. As for the second part, don’t worry thats sorted already”
EL
I saw that.
250k in legal fees with no actual court action raised is going some , where the evidence that was actually spent on that dispute where there’s no public record of court proceedings , although I’m open to correction on that.
There is something fundamentally odd about giving away something so valuable but , as you say, its too involved to waste any huge amount of time or effort working it out.
All that matters is that another potential source of income has gone for no proper consideration.
“No matter how the Happy Clappers dress it up, the whole Guidetti problem lies with trying to be smarter than smart and delaying business to the lat minute of transfer windows.”
Quonno,
So you agree that Pete was trying to get 2 strikers in and not that he was trying to bin one?
Remarkably positive for you.
qonno
The problem was that the Scepovic paperwork was all done and dusted days before!
So there was no faffing about getting forms filled in on the last day.
When Scepovic did sign, plan B to ditch the other striker began.
And it’s still going on.
murdochbhoy
13:27 on
4 September, 2014
JonnyRambo67 @ 13:15
I couldn’t disagree with your post more – why would we want to sell our stadium name for filthy lucre?
If we ever got into a situation that currently faces newco rangers I’d hope our maxim was….
It is better to die on your feet than live on your knees!!
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I realise some people get emotional about this, I agree there must be limits to what kind of companies we align ourselves with, but we already have alcohol sponsors on the shirts, nike swoosh on the shirt, nike swoosh on the seats, nike ads(amongst many others) plastered all over the stadium, it wouldn’t make any difference to me if the stadium was called ‘The Nike Arena’ or ‘The Nike Celtic Stadium.
The team on the park is what concerns me most.
Anyone any idea what Scepovic will be getting paid and what Guidetti would have been offered?
SFTB .
Born To Be WIld ?.
Dont know ——————- dandruff and patchouli choons like that were more my big sister s bag . I have memories of baiting her re Steppenwolf appearing on the Rolf Harris show and them miming to that choon..Born To Be Wild Eh -Saturday t time -Rolf Harris !
Best version of Born To Be Wild ? ———-Miss Piggy ,The Muppets and Ozzy Osbourne . Shame it wasnt Gideon.
JonnyRambo67
And we would still call it Celtic Park or Parkhead!!
Take the money!!!
Man City must have a minimum of 8 homegrown players in their 25 man Pl squad.
Removing JG would mean this requirement wouldn’t be fulfilled. One of their development/young guns would need to be promoted.
No biggy I Spose. Jus’ sayin’.
Lyrics in that tune I don’t read them like others, it just the music I like, I loved it, still do.
“Anyone any idea what Scepovic will be getting paid and what Guidetti would have been offered?”
Philbhoy,
Finished reading Heat magazine I take it?
who defecated on the marble staircase
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sftb
Bing Crosby?
Funny you should mention him, because I always enjoyed Stiff Little Fingers live version of ‘White Christmas.’
HH!!
GM
Don’t get it?
It is the norm fro thems over in the sou. West to start the ball rolling with the trouble at mill sheet, then on fri. The sheet hits the fan round about the time the stoke exchange closes, I can’t put my finger on it, but some things a foot, an it ain’t 12 inches.