I don’t get the flares thing. It’s not a part of my going-to-see-Celtic tradition. But if it was my thing, I’d have the courage of my convictions, I wouldn’t hide the fact.
There are consequences of bringing flares to football games, always has been. By not having the courage to openly ignite them, those consequences are not personalised to the individuals who regard this as an integral part of what they do at a football game, they are visited upon everyone in the vicinity, as well as the club.
The problem with flares at Celtic games is those who bring them hide the fact – as they clearly know there are consequences, and presumably aren’t too interested in taking responsibility for them. ‘Keen on flares, not keen enough to stand up for them’, is why the issue persists.
I get the attraction to bright, shiny, things, but this isn’t a campaign to bring the vote to disenfranchised people against a force who will execute the offender on sight. It’s about bringing a flare to a football game. If it’s so important, do it openly. If you think Health and Safety are simply wrong, find the evidence and use it in court. Have the courage to change something. I know lots of Celtic fans who have had the courage to put their name to something they believed in, in recent years. It’s seldom easy, but it has been done.
But in the years of this debate no one has ever pointed to evidence that igniting flares in a football ground is a clever thing to do. It’s just a ‘look at me’ exercise, ‘But don’t look at my face’, of course.
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Episode 5 of ‘A Celtic State of Mind’ finds Paul John Dykes and Kevin Graham discussing a variety of topical subjects concerning Celtic Football Club, including:
* What now for the Green Brigade?
* Dedryck Boyata – Are reinforcements on route?
* Virgil van Dijk – The windfall cometh;
* Emilio Izaguirre – Moving on.
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Dennytim
Breathe!
DELANEYS DUNKY @ 10:02 PM,
It does seem unfair that many “innocents” when the section is closed, will either have to relocate or loose their chance to see the games.
But UEFA closed a section of Windsor Park for Linfield’s misdemeanours, imagine they close the whole of the standing section at Celtic Park.
Firstly there are close to 3000 Supporters that could be effected. Secondly there is a great Celtic Iniative that could fail and put safe standing back years.
Look at UEFA’S charge sheet the Banner issue and H&S issue came from the same section!?
Hail Hail
Just watched The Debt – Interesting movie. Always enjoy watching Fascists being killed but almost had to wait two hours in the end for just one. Turns out the price of a lie was the main theme and the director failed to hit the spot, mores the pity, He has no excuse, there was enough material to work with .
HH
Stars, any nags for tomorrow?
HH
Hi Bhoys
Milne the Aberdeen chairman’s company build houses.
Murray’s company just got the green light to build thousands of houses on greenbelt land in Edinburgh.
Murray doesn’t want rangers(IL) to have any titles stripped.
He calls Milne and says “don’t back Celtic and you get the contract”.
Is that to far fetched?
KEEP THE FAITH
Chairbhoy
True mate, it would be very sad.
Especially for Jobo and VFR of this parish.
Our grey brigade stauners! :)
TONYROME
Sound about right to me, that is their M.O. after all:)
Whisper, whisper.
HH
Tony
Naw mate. Perfectly feasible.
Celtic PLC will do…hee haw
they don’t feel the pain….
coz, they urny Celtic supporters !
So, they have to be, made to do it !
But, problem is….
The PLC know that, the present supporter base…
are, incapable of rebellion !
And, that……is the problem !
So, the PLC urny the problem……
its you, the Celtic support, which in the main…..
is comprised of, smart phone students and,….
middle aged yuppies wi i-pads….
Ah mean, you have to make the PLC, deal with this….
but, yeez don’t have the balls and, the PLC and,….
the Orange Masonic Establishment know it !
So, when the huns walk away, unchallenged….
for, 25 years of Murray Mibbery…..
Don’t blame the PLC for not acting….
But, instead….blame the 53,000 endorsements….
of the PLC…..they brought in Brendan…..
to keep yeez away from the front door on Kerrydale Street…
looks like its worked !
Oh how I wish that,Gerry McNee was still on the scene…..
to send another hearse up the Celtic Way….
just to wake up the, 53,000 Snoozers oot their slumber….
One year doon the road, when 25 years of Murray Mibbery….
is swept under the same big Masonic rug as, the sacking of Manchester 2008, there will be a new plaque, probably crowd funded by the 53,000 Scooby-doo’s! erected on the Celtic Way, which will read…..
“Below is the coffin which carries the remains of the Celtic Football Club 1994, formerly known as, The Celtic Football and Athletic company 1888. The remains are secured with 53,000 nails, hammered into the coffin by the, non streetwise faithful, 2018.”
So, desperately sad.
…….off-oot.
TGM
That you speculating about Capital City stuff?
Shhh
There’s always someone listening in. ;)
BURNLEY78 on 22ND JULY 2017 10:32 PM
The Green Man
So what exactly does that achieve ? Tell us how does your don’t pay strategy help celtic in any way ? As I see it the club just dies or loses its current dominant position.
……….
Never,ever have I saw you post anything other than a pro-board,anti-Green Brigade issue on here or attack Celtic fans who stand up for justice.
No issues with the board kow towing to a pub team like Linfield?
No issues with Griffiths being attacked with bottles?
No issues with Celtic and the rest of the Scottish teams being cheated out of trophies and millions of pounds?
No issues with Scott Sinclair being racially abused?
No issues with an -ex board member being a mass murderer?
Away and gives us peace.
Now,
I think the Green Brigade will have to box a bit cleverer but you and yer pro board ilk on here want tò have a serious word with yourselves.
Playing catch up again (page 15) I am totally disgusted by the obvious delight shown by the Donnelly guy on the banning of Celtic fans from Celtic Park.
We can all agree or disagree with the Green Brigade’s actions, but don’t wallow in it ffs.
Primal Scream – Country Girl
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PWjm_W-4Ml8
HH
DD
I have the the origins of the speculators and their wrongdoings in my wee green book:)
HH
TCR
Good post.
Thats how it is,
HH
Owen,
that’s quite obvious, far too fast and away over your head
FRED C. DOBBS on 22ND JULY 2017 10:55 PM
The assimilated tims are worse than der Hun. The enemy within.
Pretty poor statement from the GB today,probably puts their place at Celtic Park in jeopardy,
but i am still disgusted that the board can ignore a number of contentious issues affecting our club and players,
and that is without even thinking about the 10 years of cheating.
One mealy mouth statement about waiting on the SPFL board decision,
the Celtic board should have been on the offensive the minute the SC decision was announced.
TGM
You can read the likes of Minty, Milne and Budge like a book. Self interest, feck fitba and the plebs who pay for it.
The great Scottish fitba swindle!
DD
They dont hide it, its blatant now, its in your face.
Something big in the offing, one way or another.
HH
The Beatles – She’s Leaving Home
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oAYiuFBqyLE
HH
chairbhoy,
The more serious of the two charges was perpetrated by the llcs security forces this was verified both independently and by the GB today. Yet the Plc lied about this blaming the GB for this infringement. So regardless of where the infraction took place the Plc lied about who is to.blame.
TGM
I just paid £600 for my season ticket.
Sadly, this season could be my last watching Celtic. Don’t like paying to be conned.
Some light relief….
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SvaDTj2wHic
We need to talk about Kevin, is the next movie watch. Any good?
BR as manager
er
Sign Moussa
Sign Scotty
Beat Sevco 5 – 1
Scotty song
Win League Cup
Beat Sevco all season
Beat Sevco 1-5
Win treble
Sell record season tickets
Sh*t in the nest
GB blame the Board
Did I miss something (second bottle of Rioja BTW)
Win League
What have we learned today ? Well we all support the same football team but a lot of us don’t actually like each other very much. Hh
Fred C. Dobbs on 22nd July 2017 10:55 pm
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The worst kind of Celtic supporter. An old school uneducated prick who despises those who dragged themselves further than he did. If he had his way the hun would have put their heel on our head and he would have looked the other way.
Thankfully we had better men than him available to say no to the hun.
Delaneys,
have to agree with you on the number of first or very infrequent posters logging on to have a go at the GB
G64, I like you and the Celtic men from Rutherglen I’ve met with you. Its a question of trust.
HH bruv
Sionnach Abu on 22nd July 2017 11:11 pm
We need to talk about Kevin, is the next movie watch. Any good?
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Meh standard woe is me parent and kids stuff
Gordy
Aye pal. Does make you wonder.
What a dreich day and night doon here.
I need sunlight. :)
James Brown – Papa’s Got A Brand New Bag – I Feel Good
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJgkuyJ8NLo
HH
Gordon64 on 22nd July 2017 11:11 pm
What have we learned today ? Well we all support the same football team but a lot of us don’t actually like each other very much. Hh
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I like you :O)
Neymar: How can PSG afford to pay £196m for the Barcelona forward?
By Saj Chowdhury
BBC Sport
7 hours ago From the section European Football 154
Neymar
Barcelona signed Neymar from Brazilian club Santos for £48.6m in 2013
Paris St-Germain are reportedly ready to pay £196m for Barcelona forward Neymar.
One hundred and ninety-six million pounds for one player. Just let that sink in.
It is more than double the current world record fee of £89m paid by Manchester United for Paul Pogba and almost two and a half times that paid by Real Madrid for Cristiano Ronaldo in 2009.
Both United and Real have an estimated worth of almost £3bn, according to Forbes, so it is not beyond the realms of comprehension that they could afford Neymar.
But how are Paris St-Germain, not in the top 10 of the world’s richest clubs, able to spend almost a third of their value on one player?
Latest Neymar gossip – ‘Brazilian has 90% chance of leaving Barcelona’
Could they structure the payments?
Neymar
Will it be £196m in one go? Instalments? A deposit-plus-interest-free payments for three years?
Football finance expert Dr Rob Wilson of Sheffield Hallam University shed some light on how they might come to an agreement:
“What you tend to find is when clubs buy a player – for large amounts or small – they will stagger these payments over a course of a contract,” Wilson says.
“Let’s assume PSG pay £200m for Neymar and he signs a 10-year contract – they will pay £20m per year to Barcelona. Of course, the selling club has to agree to that length of time.
“You expect there to be a decent upfront payment though. When Cristiano Ronaldo signed for Real Madrid from Manchester United for £80m in 2009, the English club demanded the fee was paid in full before it was allowed to happen.
“Regarding Neymar, I think you’ll probably see a substantial initial payment – let’s say £100m – and a couple of payments afterwards to make the balance.”
How do you recoup that money?
Neymar
PSG are set to pay huge bucks, and will be paying huge wages, for a player who is not only highly talented but also highly marketable.
According to Forbes, the Brazilian is the 18th highest-paid sports star in the world with £11.54m earned from his salary and £17m from endorsements alone, thanks to deals with Nike, Gillette, Panasonic and Beats by Dre.
That is great for him, but how can PSG get a slice – a large one at that?
“I think they’ll generate funds from commercial endorsements and additional sponsorships because he’s obviously a very marketable player,” Wilson says.
“PSG will be able to come to agreement with the player and his agent over image rights, and how best they can use him to promote the club.
“I think when you sign a player of that magnitude they tend to bring a level of excitement, so commercial enterprises will be more interested in partnerships with PSG.”
Neymar
There are, of course, shirt sales. Fans of PSG and football fans in general will flock to the shops to buy the new Neymar shirts. But how much will the cash will the club get from the tills?
Their shirts are sponsored by Nike and, according to reports, the club are paid about 24m euros (£21.5m) per season by the sportswear company.
“There’s a myth around shirt sales,” adds Wilson. “The shirt manufacturer will take the lion’s share of the profits from the sales.
“So, for example, the £75m Adidas pay Manchester United per year is a fixed fee. It doesn’t matter how many shirts they sell and the players that help sell those, they’ll only have that £75m per year.
“You can never safely think the investment in one player will be paid back through a revenue-generating point of view.
“However, the impact of the playing success of the team as a result of having Neymar might result them in generating more money which, in turn, could recover what they will have spent on him.”
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Sack the Board and let the real money me take over
SIONNACH ABU,
“these aren’t the droids you’re looking for”
dailyrecordCSC.
DD
Its difficult, but i made the choice to refuse to back the cheating.
What i remember is this. One day they are liquidated, a few days later and there is stupid arse mcCoist decked out in the training gear of the deid team.
WTF.
Thats not football, its cheating.
HH
DELANEYS DUNKY on 22ND JULY 2017 11:03 PM
TGM
You can read the likes of Minty, Milne and Budge like a book. Self interest, feck fitba and the plebs who pay for it.
The great Scottish fitba swindle
Correctamundo- but i think the fans will run this as in 2012, Ayr Utd (i know) had a banner at their game with Killie last Friday night taken from them, as it wasn’t fire retardent……..some Steward Training must be better at some grounds than others…..