The first thing you do when you raise an asset dispute is issue a Cease and Desist notice. Inform the other party to stop using your asset, whether it is a piece of intellectual property, like a logo or badge, a piece of equipment or a physical property.
In conjunction with this you also ask for all monies collected in connection with your property to be forward to you. Football clubs, for example, regularly instruct people, who produce merchandise with unauthorised copies of their club crests, to stop doing so, destroy all unused stock and send them whatever money earned from earlier sales.
If and when a claim reaches court, the first request to the judge is likely to be to freeze use of all assets and cough up cash from sales. Keep your eyes peeled…
CQN Nine-in-a-row Charity Golf Day 2013
Our Annual Charity Golf Day 2013 will take place on Friday 14th June at Aberdour Golf Club. This is our 9th annual event and I’m delighted to announce that Lisbon Lion and nine-in-a-row striker, Willie Wallace, will be our guest of honour.
After winning everything available to him in Europe, Willie made a new life for himself in Australia, where he established a second career in the game, while retaining strong links to the Celtic ex-pat community.
We will be raising funds for the 125-4-125 appeal, while encouraging all Celtic fans to get involved and stake their claim on what this club is all about. Cost for the day’s golf and the evening meal and entertainment is £80. Cost for non-golfers is £45.
The Annual Charity Golf Day is always oversubscribed so get your application for a place in early by emailing, cqnopen2013@gmx.com.
Look forward to seeing you there.
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leftclicktic
Excellent price for the briefs in the current cllimate. Enjoy yourselves!
LB
Does Challs have green fingers ?
setting free the bears
14:45 on
18 April, 2013
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Excellent post SFTB
Hopefully your “b) We get out of this set up” is the outcome.
I honestly think this is the only way we can attract the ‘lost’ attendees back to CP in the forseeable future. I hope PL is working on that as we converse.
SFTB
Good post.
The fact remains though that many Celtic supporters are simply bored of the poor fair on offer. I know that this ties in with your point about lack of competitive matches but the declining ST sales has been in evidence longer than the recent demise of the huns.
The Token Tim.
Do you clear your flying schedule for the Aberdour day out.
I can see your Ipad getting switched on after every hole giving a running commentary of how you performed at each hole,your many 1000s of facebook readers will be enthrolled and hoping you beat these committee men.
Old Tim
No, still in Arbroath and enjoying life. After the length of winter we have had, though, Spain feels appealing! Maybe Auldheid could set up a Winter Commune in Benalmadena 0:-)
JJ
PS Are you going on the 27th?
leftclicktic
14:55 on
18 April, 2013
Thanks for the info, my mate who stays up north was asking me about tickets, but he has not got back to me yet, he will probably need to work on sunday.
HH
Thanks for the golf help, I’ve sent my email off
Can I play off of 51 handicap?
P
HamiltonTim
Exactly – the empty seats for league matches began to appear during the Strachan era(with the notable exception of the missing 20,000 toward the end of the Barnes/Dalglish reign).
Its a phase, but we will be fine. We have one hand tied behind our back due to the environment we play in – we all know too well the potential of the club but we have to bear with it. After all, we go to watch and support Celtic, our reward for the slog of league matches will hopefully be more frequent CL participation.
HH
POD1
If you are off a 51 handicap, you have answered your own question about whether or not you can play!!
JJ
PS NB Not “off of”.
HT
If you take “declining sales from a comparison with our short lived “stadium sell out and waiting list” period early in the 21st century, we will always be seen as being in decline.
I fear we will never see a sold out stadium in an SPL without a viable title contender. That is a penalty that Deid Rangers have bestowed on us with their profligate mad spending.
We will just have to live with that and move on but we might lose a few along the way. Work must be done to keep tomorrow’s potential fan base linked to and interested in supporting this club in future.
Dead and Loving it
Dont know how up to date this is or how much “limited availability” there is .
I thought there would be less available if im honest but as I say dont know numbers.
https://www.eticketing.co.uk/celtic/details/event.aspx?itemref=6141
If Celtic Park only held 40,000, we would have a full house every game and be clammering for a bigger stadium to be built.
oldtim67
No, that was only for standard tickets.
SFTB
Agree, personally I don’t think a reduction in the cost will have a material effect on season ticket sales. The only things that will bring season ticket sales back up to the level they once were would be if supporters had no option but to buy one to get to see the games they wanted (e.g. Rangers or Champions League games).
The only reason season ticket sales hit huge heights was becasue supporters needed to have a season ticket otherwise they would not be able to get tickets to see games against Rangers.
Fortunately for us, a good season in the Champions League means that a reduction in season ticket prices will be more than offset by money already received and if we can get a good run next season, we will generate more money again.
Mort
Trad88
The declining sales in ST doesn’t actually concern me greatly.
I know that current economics have led to some unfortunately no longer being able to afford the expense of attending football games. However, many will have disappeared as a result of the poor standard of football and the lack of competition.
These were more likely to be the ‘supporters’ who hurled abuse at the merest hint of a misplaced pass.
Personally I’d rather have 20,000 supporting than 40,000 moaning.
Livibhoy @ 14:12,
Funnily enuff was thinking about Trading Places myself this morning.
Had visions of Wulstan giving over a quid saying looking good Aiden.
Aiden replying feeling good Wulstan.
!!Bada Bing!!
Agree about problems with 16 year olds moving onto adult prices but hey if they can vote, they can be treated as adults. :-)
This problem would exist even if child tickets were for U18s as few 18 year olds could afford their own season ticket anyway.
I blame this type of policy on why my golfing career has floundered. When I was a youngster I got a junior membership at a local 18 hole course for £30 a year for unlimited access. During the summer I could have been out 3 or 4 times a week. Once I turned 17 (I think it was for some reason), the price increased to £300 so couldn’t afford it any more.
Linking the two main topics on today’s blog brilliantly I think :)
Mort
leftclicktic
Cheers for that.
HH
SFTB
“I fear we will never see a sold out stadium in an SPL without a viable title contender.”
Althogh I am in agreement with most of the content of your recent posts, I believe we might see a sold out stadium on Sunday. The ” Limited Availability” referred to is very limited in some cases. Section 140, for instance, offers Limited Availability. I think ONE seat is available there ! Like I said, VERY limited availability 0:-)
JJ
Chairbhoy
If I could do a parody of that scene I would. I’m sure there are better qualified people than me working on it right now.
LB
SFTB
The first step that the club must take is to reintroduce the £50 season tickets for the under 16s. Whoever initiated its scrapping needs a shake.
My youngest is 10 and went to her first games this season. She’s been to 2 at Parkhead, one at Rugby Park and she was there at Hampden on Sunday.
She’s not wanting to go every second week to all the home games, and I wouldn’t be able to take her in any case, but at 50 quid I might just bite the bullet and say, hey ho it’s worth it over the course of a season for her to really understand what Celtic Football Club is all about.
Mort-Easy Tiger….
stairheedrammy
He might have moved to toryglen whilst at secondary school, he was only in my class at primary. HH
alex thomson @alextomo 42m The Truth? Why Kelvi MacKenzie lost his Telegraph gig http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/greenslade/2013/apr/18/kelvin-mackenzie-dailytelegraph
SFTB
With regard to tomorrows potential fan base, good point. Looking at it more generally, what do the young fans watching on television think when watching the match at Hampden on Sunday – the Dundee United fans were packed into a corner well out of sight of the cameras.
Live football on TV is all about the ‘spectacle’ as much as the actual football – young fans are attracted by atmosphere, it makes them want to go back. Put all the fans where the camera will see them for the most part – the fans were mingling outside so I dont think 300 empty rows were required for security reasons.
If we learned to sell the game a bit better, the Ross County fans might not have convinced their chairman to veto the reconstruction plans. As it was, it was too late by the time the clubs came out with their arguments in favour – they had convinced themselves(or so they thought) but forgot about those who sustain the game!
Just think we are missing tricks left, right and centre. Safe standing as they have in Germany would be another one…
HH
Gutted that I will be away on June 15 and will miss the ‘9 in a Row’
I wish all who attend a great day
PS
If anyone wants to inherit my ‘History’ in the CQN Open I am open to offers!
Hail hail
JJ
I meant sold out with a waiting list i.e. the days when we had , what was it 55k SB sold pre season with a severely limited amount of match day tickets available on the day.
Season tickets – Everton have a scheme where there’s a reduced rate for 16-20 year olds. They are too old to receive child tickets but if they have a job it’s likely to be on a low start-up salary hence the cut price (£350 for next season). I think it’s a good idea.
Hamiltontim
15:17 on 18 April, 2013
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The first step that the club must take is to reintroduce the £50 season tickets for the under 16s.
This is crucial IMHO
mort, what if celtic drop the sb price and say “the only way to guarantee a Cl ticket (if we reach it) is to buy a sb , there will be no public sale” ? or have I just given marketing their new strategy ?
sanna
reply from Ann McTaggart MSP re the FAC e mail
“Thank you for voicing your concern regarding the policing of football under the Offensive Behaviour at Football and Threatening Communications (Scotland) Act 2012, and in particular the incident between the police and Celtic fans on 16 March 2013.
At the time, Scottish Labour opposed the Scottish Government’s proposals vigorously. We warned that it risked damaging the positive relationships with fans that the police need if they are to deal with violent and threatening behaviour associated with football while keeping genuine supporters onside. These concerns were not of course confined to Labour MSPs: football fans, religious organisations, anti-sectarianism charities, children’s charities, the Law Society and the Human Rights Commission all highlighted problems with the SNP’s proposals.
I am concerned that the law has created confusion, when what is actually needed on this issue is clarity about what constitutes an offence, and what enforcement measures are necessary and appropriate. This latest incident appears to confirm our fears, that the law as it now stands hinders rather than helps the policing of football. That is why I and my Scottish Labour colleagues will renew our calls that the Act should be subject to review under the procedures for post-legislative scrutiny at Holyrood.
At the same time, Scottish Labour supports efforts to tackle sectarianism wherever it exists in our communities. That means focusing on education and young people, working with churches, football authorities and fans on positive practical measures that are based on evidence, and looking for ways to reduce rather than increase tensions around football and in other aspects of life where a sectarian element can be found.
I am grateful to you for contacting me on this issue, and I will seek to keep you informed of future developments.
Yours sincerely,
Anne McTaggart MSP”
HT:
Personally I’d rather have 20,000 supporting than 40,000 moaning.
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Agreed, if we can turn away drunks we can turn away moaners:)
HH
setting free the bears
14:45 on
18 April, 2013
I dont disagree with any of that but I think the support at large need to take a look at the economic reality that if we as a whole support wish standards of player to be maintained so that we can compete in Europe (CL or EC) then we cannot depend on SB income as the main income supply.
Whilst the match day experience can have something special about it, a growing old population (like me) is less likely to brave the travel and weather conditions to attend the game. Whilst the younger generation are more content to watch on a screen be that TV in a pub, at home,or on a laptop, PC or increasingly a tablet.
When you look at the additional costs of attending live and compare to the cost of watching on a screen and how that is becoming easier each day (a goal scored after 20 mins can be uploaded by someone outside the UK and shared in the UK by half time) not to mention the clouded legal issue of local pubs using non UK TV broadcasters to show the game live in a local pub then I think the support as a whole will have to rethink their whole attitude to support.
Who or what do we each think we are supporting?
For me it is more than a club, it is an ideal, a charitable ideal that is based on what drove the founder and that is love of fellow man. When large crowds gather at CP (as v Barcelona) it is that love and regard for the ideal that makes CP like no place on earth on such a night.
How we manifest that regard/love, what brings us all together to do so is the football, but in a way the football is secondary. Well it is to me, but I like to think and there is plenty of evidence in support, that important as the football is, the ideal is shared by a great many Celtic supporters not all whom go to games.
Commercially it all depends on how many buy into the ideal, cannot attend live games but wish to support the ideal, who wish to enjoy watching the football but wish to belong to something greater that they are prepared to pay to support and keep alive and thriving.
I think Celtic need to find ways of tapping into this ideal so that the cost of putting a team on the park for everyone’s enjoyment is more equitably shared but to push that notion I need to know I am not living in some fairy tale land where everything is seen through my green and rose tinted spectacles.
I posted a little earlier a letter I got from Celtic about the way charity and SB sales together had been used via the Overseas Season Book.
This route to supporting and viewing is not open to UK supporters because it does not allow UK residents to view games but how many watch games that they are not able to pay to watch because the means to do so is either absent or they cannot afford to pay full price?
What if there were other ways of paying according to means for those that can but cannot attend games and might not even get to watch live but wish to support the ideal, to be a recognisable member of theCeltic family?
Am I a dreamer? Can the means of supporting be changed and shared more equitably on the basis that it is not just the football we are paying for but the belonging to the greatest club in the world in terms of its founding ideal?
North Shore Bhoy @uksupertramp 3h @jamesdoleman @Pmacgiollabhain Do tell Chris Graham. He seemed smugly confident to @alextomo on LNS day about Sevco’s financial future.
alex thomson @alextomo 23m @uksupertramp @jamesdoleman @Pmacgiollabhain perhaps Chris does not know what is coming
:))
Apparently STV have received a copy of the draft rules for no no longer viable SPFL and it addresses the issue that was raised that all clubs may not be able to have played 22 games before the split was due to happen due to weather problems etc.
To circumvent this, the board would have had the power to postpone games until after the split if the result had no material outcome on the final positions.
e.g. If St Mirren were in 11th place in SPFL1 and Hearts were in 10th place and neither could move into the top 8 and had still to play each other, this game could be postponed until after the split.
The funny thing about this is that at the split points are all reset at zero and the outcome of this game would not generate any points for the teams post split.
Pointless
Mort
traditionalist88
15:25 on
18 April, 2013
HT:
Personally I’d rather have 20,000 supporting than 40,000 moaning.
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Agreed, if we can turn away drunks we can turn away moaners:)
HH
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If we turn away both, I’ll be the only one on my bus!!!!
HT , agreed . If the kids price stays at the current price then The Kano Foundation will have a few tough decisions to make regarding the make-up and size of our allocation next year with obvious knock-on effects. We are heading towards our 2000th child at Celtic Park and want to reach it as quickly as possible .
Sanna
traditionalist88-Great point re TV coverage,it looks terrible with all the empty sections,”If we learned to sell the game a bit better”-Like watching Celtic trying to win the league instead of Motherwell failing on Friday?