BDO’s survey of British football clubs suggests control, if not complete sanity, has descended on Scottish football. Most Premiership clubs surveyed predicted they would return to profitability over the next year.
On the back of Phil Mac Giolla Bhain’s article on former Scottish Football League chief exec David Longmuir’s bonuses, which are no longer payable, these are heady days for some clubs who have lived hand-to-mouth stuffing pork into Longmuir’s trough. You better believe it’s financial Armageddon, for the former SFL man. The SFA will surely insist on inappropriate financial stain is left on our game.
Anyway………. It seems if I explain the structural gap between Rangers International’s earnings through season ticket sales and the costs of operating a football club which can facilitate circa 40,000 spectators on a regular basis, we can all figure why the gap cannot be bridged. We are different because despite having enormously higher football costs, we can access enormously higher revenue streams.
On the other hand, explaining that Celtic’s operational costs need to be augmented by player sales and/or Champions League income, just to break even, and that player sales and/or Champions League income cannot exclusively be used for player purchases, amounts to a heresy against deeply held orthodox views.
Add in a reminder about the strategy which has made all the difference to Celtic – buying wisely, selling wisely, and sit back to watch a secular belief structure ignore the ‘every penny to be spent’ prediction and vent as though their deity has just been denied.
This stuff’s complicated, apparently, but paying attention to financial detail is not a required Obligation to support Celtic, so if it doesn’t float your boat, I’d start by demanding to know where all the Seville money went to….
I hear the Daily Record accompanied their – Imran Ahmad to sue Rangers International for £3.4m – story with a completely baseless story about Celtic losing out on the only transfer target they know about. They were wrong on some of the Ahmad story (Charles Green may have produced the documents Ahmad would rely on in court, but suggestions they are in concert on this claim are wildly inappropriate). Still, it plays into current orthodoxy on Charles Green.
Going on what they’ve written, they know nothing about Celtic’s transfer negotiations either. Absolutely squat. Percentage of Celtic fans who know the media’s game: 100%. Percentage of Celtic fans who allow themselves to be influenced despite knowing the above……?
If these people have you panicking, look elsewhere for sympathy. We have a team building strategy, it has delivered well thus far and it will continue to do so. Buy wisely, sell wisely, spend every penny over a given business cycle. Pretty straightforward, really.
Magic Money Deity Denier CSC.
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bada bing
please no …rather stick with what we have
has all the resonance of Oldco signing Marcus Gayle
Oh Joy of joys.
Health and Safety monthly meeting at 2pm. Laters.
(and no, I won’t be involving myself in any lateral movement, unless of course I fall asleep and slip sideways off my chair)
HT
surely they`d have a riot on their hands :¬))
anyway ..Zaluska had a good half on Saturday ..
Auldheid @ 13:33 – you’re right that it’s not quite Mjallby/Lennon/Larsson, but Vic was definately our best midfielder & Hooper our best striker…no?!
As regards Wilson, and his obvious deficiencies, he would have been a first team pick for our manager. Probably alongside Virgil, with Efe being pushed forward into midfield as an option.
Not quite a spine, but three important positions nevertheless. If Virgil is definately out of both CL ties, then I really hope Moloyouko is the real deal.
T4
philbhoy
thanks for your kind wishes
he can’t wait to go ,hope it stays that way.
AM remembers you but flatly denied anything else
hamiltontim- posted similar last week only to be told that is was totally stupid to buy before we had sold? Forward planning is a thing of the past for some ?
Just catching up …..
Tony Donnelly 67
Aye, you’re getting it in the neck now. That’ll teach you to suck up to the Blogmeister :-))
Kevjungle
Thanks for the welcome, no am certainly not a hun. As Blantyretim stated last night, we maybe should not build young Jackson up too much. However, I feel he is the real deal. Agree with your views on what a Celtic midfielder should be like, and would add Bobby Murdoch, Stevie Murray and The Maestro to your list.
p.s. Big Mouyokolo looks the part.
pfayr-i fear we will move down to 4th or 5th on the list and pull in a squad filler a la Miku ,Lassad.
August shapin’ up to be an interestin’ ole month:
Qualies against those crazy Kazakhs; league games against Aberdeen and ICT, neither of which are gimmes.
So worth bearin’ this in mind:
‘For every complex problem there is an answer that is clear, simple, and wrong’
DBBIA/HLMenckenCSC
Pfayr
I’d put you in goals before Zaluska :-)
Bada
Sadly, so it would seem.
I have to giggle a wee bit about all the youtube and wikipedia scouts I have seen on here the last couple of days. Some guys out there believe the icelandic lad will be worth 10 million after a couple of seasons. Based on what? The main market we sell to is England and they don’t care how many SPL goals you score. He would have to do the business in the CL. He’s not english either (which no doubt helped with Hooper).
If Celtic were to pay 5 or 6 million for a player he would have to be something really special.
I’m surprised that people feel we need a striker to get past this Kazakh team. I’m sure we will have to be professional and perform but I doubt we will get a hiding with or without the Iceman.
I’ve not seen the Kazakh team play but I believe we have enough in the tank with Samaras, Dirk, Commons, Stokes and Balde to get the job done.
If we wish to get to the last 16 or get a run in the Europa we will need a striker. I’m sure we can find somebody better than Stokes.
Suma of Sammi
What about Momo Sylla……….might consider a comeback……Champions Lge could be the carrot.
Monaghan1900
13:44 on
13 August, 2013
Ah bless them :)) If they have any powers of recollection the will remember
Green was high n dry till super Ally threw his (considerable ) weight behind him
picking up a pile of shares and a £750,000 wage along the way.
Lawwell should be sacked for turning down that £29m bid for Hooper.
TTTT
it reprehensible that we are relying on hope for CB coverage
particularly as we sold a decent one last week
as for improving the squad ..gash imo …
it is one thing to espouse a plan ..another to make it work
tonydonnelly67
13:43 on
13 August, 2013
Right am off to the Oasis for a swally. ;)
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kEEP SAFE :o(
HT
Mind I go on holiday in September this year.HH
If you look at this transfer window in general, I would say that the majority of teams buying marquee players are teams either running on a rich benefactors bankroll(sound familiar), or teams who have sold their best players to such teams. We are in a position where some of the biggest games of our season come before the window is anywhere near closed, but I’m still happy enough to be patient for the right player at the right price. I’d hazard a guess that this player will not even have been mentioned in the press yet and will sign prior to next Tuesday.
I have faith in the Board and we will bring in the striker that tey, NL and us know we need. However, a wodr of caution:
We have got to ask ourselves if it is worth going the extra bit for Finnbogasson or who ever it is we will sign. A Striker is one position that we may need to pay a premium for in my opinion.
Keep the Faith!
Hail Hail!
Someone suggested Shane Long.
Yes, yes, yes! PLEEAAASSE!!!
Moloyouko impressive on Saturday against Pool. Is he related to Yoko Ono?
bada bing
another to join the list of individually cheap but collectively expensive duds
we could have bought Rhodes and Finbogson with the cash wasted over the last few years
PFayr
“it reprehensible that we are relying on hope for CB coverage”
I imagine that Neil Lennon has probably made up his mind on Mouyokolo after watching him train and play.
There’s nothing wrong with fans hoping a new signing will do the business as long as the coach believes he will.
Phil Mac’s comment on twitter a minute ago, to the effect that with a £3.4M law suit filed, Imran Ahmed would be considered a creditor by any subsequent Administrator, is quite astute.
Tonydonnelly67
Tony, the blog would be nowhere near as interesting if we were all singing from the same hymnsheet. Different opinions throw up some excellent arguments and debates, some which go on for days. I’ll be the first to admit that although Ive watched Celtic since the Frank Haffey days, I’m still picking up some stuff I’d never realised or figured. That’s one of the best things about CQN. There are just so many people on here, that usually someone will come up with a well thought viewpoint or valid counter argument..
I think you could have used a more appropriate word then ‘moaning’. But then again maybe you wanted to ruffle a few feathers. Its not moaning Tony and you know that fine and well. Its people seeing things different from yourself, thats all. If we lose out to the Kazak team, should not one fan come on here to express their feelings? Or is that not moaning?
For what its worth I’m not a big fan of PL, altough I’d admit he’s being worked from the back by DD. He’s a bit too frugal for my liking but paradoxically he’s a gambler too. I wont be surprised if he gives the new striker option a miss, and go with what we have, to win or lose out on a minimum 12m jackpot.
We’ll see.
Anyway keep moaning about the moaners mo chara ;-)
hh
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HT – he could fill most of the goal, so good shout! :-)
PF – text you my donkey selections soon!
T4
Oh look there’s a beach, loads and loads of sand; and me with my wee plastic bucket and spade too, lovely jubilee.
Dig, dig, dig, insert head, oops, not deep enough yet, got to try harder, dig, dig dig and dig some more, insert head, just a wee bit more and I’ll be there, dig, dig, dig, insert head – cosy and safe.
I won’t knock Blade but then I never knocked Fortune either. I won’t wax lyrical about Rogic and thank God I never did in about N’Guemo either.
Celtic are going to win the SPL this season, naw trust me they are. The SPL is a foregone conclusion. To make it a sporting event Celtic would have to start with minus twenty points. That in itself is not Celtic’s fault, but every team in the SPL will be doing all they can within their own restrictive budgets to make it as hard as possible for Celtic to win that flag; so I suppose there is a degree of sport in it.
Celtic is not going to win the champions league, they still have a qualifier to negotiate and if the last one is the benchmark then they might well fail. Assuming we do win our next qualifier, we progress to the knockout stages. The first globally recognised obstacle to actually winning the competition. We have all heard the worn cliche w to win the champions league, they still have a qualifier to negotiate and if the last one is the benchmark then they might well fail. Assuming we do win our next qualifier, we progress to the knockout stages. The first globally recognised obstacle to actually winning the competition. We have all heard the worn cliché – we want to win every competition we enter.
We want to win every competition we enter.
I want to win the lottery every time I put on a line, honestly.
I’ve seen us win the ‘big cup’; we did it well with honest players and a manager that scorned the gates of hell.
Neil Lennon is not going to win the European Cup this season, he too being a man that scorned the gates of hell and bombs and bullets too.
Jock Stein’s team had class and a goal scorer or three.
Why don’t we pull our heads out of the sand, we have no intention of trying to win the European Cup, none whatsoever; our chalice is the group stages pot of dollars and everything else is a most unexpected but welcome bonus.
And if we do negotiate through to the group stages and pick up that wee continental pot of gold that we don’t ridicule like we ridicule the Sky sponsored EPL pots of Gold that will ensure our coffers get a leg up circa 20 million or so and we’ll win the SPL again; and again.
I’m truly grateful to my God and Celtic that I saw my team contest and win a European trophy, I feel sad and frustrated for all other Celtic Supporters who never knew the joy and probably never will.
Unless Celtic, the club that is more than a club, the club that is a global family, the club which is nothing without its supporters, pulls it head out of the sand and actually communicates with its supporters in a meaningful way.
If we are not going to buy a striker, if we are that tight, let’s give Tony Watt the jersey and see what he can do. But for the love of God Celtic… communicate with those who make you what you are.
Remember the days under Jock Stein, Celtic used to train on the sand dunes of Seamill. I don’t think Jock had any curiosity what was under the sand, I think he wanted to know what glory awaited his team over the top of the dunes, that is why he made them run up them again and again and again.
HT
Even if you were a ‘moaner’ you’re allowed. ;-)
Stupid happy clapping isn’t a crime – they’re free to go. *Neither is happy clapping it restricted to Celtic fans, – they could just as well be Huns*
I’ve been told to wait till the end of the window, but think the risk they took with sales against purchases, points to a resignation that CL group football wasn’t worth spending the ‘Wanyama pot of gold’ on or any of it.
They are so determined they can even slam shut sections of the ground, and they won’t go
buying big because we are now ‘conditioned’ to the corner shop football, and the death of Rangers resurfaces, despite being told we are a stand alone business, that want’s to improve.
They are away ahead of the Celtic supporter in the street in the strategy, and I’m fed up posting that Mouyokolo or Van Dyck is Kelvin Wilson, Balde is Hooper and Kayal is
Wanyama.
p.s. Kazakstan population 16 million – tough tie.
Vp
I’ll deliver it to your tent then ;-)
lennybhoy
we wanted Hooper to stay ..we were told
why not spend all the money on a replacement and utilise the contract Hopper was to have …status quo mantained …
or were we always going to sell Hooper
if we need money to balance the books …how much ??
surely it can`t be the sum of the CL cash and the transfer profit to date …i suggest nowhere near it …we wouldn`t run our business like that
Paul67
I had the advantage when reading yesterday’s article of hearing the Desert Island Tims podcast where you explained how CQN came into being. To counter act the poisonous crap being poured into the ears of Celtiv supporters by the msm after Seville.
I could see the connection when you referenced Chick Young and how it was that brand of poison you were offering an antidote to.
Had you been Phil Ma Giolla Bhain reporting tax news on Rangers media the response in one or two cases could not have been worse.
The posts reveal the problem that TET refers to that, no matter how persuasive the case , some minds are entrenched in oldthink.
The world has moved on but letting go of old think is scary, especially if your identity is attached to it.
The business of football is complicated but that is no reason to attribute motivations to those who take an interest in it or try to explain it.
It so happens that if you approach supporting Celtic from a business perspective that you will take up a similar position to those whose job it actually is to run the business.
That does not make anyone a happy clapper because within an overall strategy much of which can be agreed with, there are always facets that are debatable. Better ways of real dialogue for a start.
But I’m thinking more and more what is the point trying to provide the kind of thinking that Celtic as a business employ if minds are as closed as TET suggests?
I have long argued Celtic have an intelligent support base that is willing to be open minded and ignore the messenger but listen to the message.
I’m beginning to wonder.
Take the personalities out of it. Stop judging the individuals, the size of their bonus or dividends and using that as an excuse not to dig deeper.
Look at the policies, look at the thinking behind them and then think for yourselves. Who is making more sense? CQN or the likes of Chic Young.
Its a no friggin brainer!
PFayr
That wasn’t my intention at all.
All credit to the football staff for the scouting and coaching they do. I 100% accept that.
My point is really that they running the Club with a strategy that allows/requires that to happen.
My view, in simple terms, is that we have just had a cracking season (beyond my expectations this time last year) and are looking good to qualify for the Group stages of the CL again this year. The guys that have taken us their, Suits, Football staff deserve our trust.
To my mind, for as long as we play in the SPFL or similar, our target should be to win the title and qualify for the Group stages of the CL. That is a succesful season to me. Get to the last 16 and it’s a magical season. Beat the likes of Barcelona along the way – brilliant. Win the Scottish Cup and/or League Cup, that’s a nice bonus.
I don’t believe that signing two or even three £4m or £5m players will take us to the mythical ‘next level’.
We signed a 12m player in Wanyama but we only paid £900k for him. That’s what we need to keep trying to do until we find ourselves in a more lucrative footballing environment.
All just my opinion mind.
SwanseaBhoy
The one player we need this window is a striker, a centre mid with vision would be an added bonus but a striker is imperative.
I think we are well covered at CB we have yet to see the Dutch bhoy but from what I’ve seen of Myoykolo (sp) I think he capable of replacing Kelvin.
Big Vic will be hard to replace but if you ask me I’d rather we got a replacement for Hooper instead of Vic. We cannot go into Europe relying on the present strike force. If to get to the next level we have to go high with that bid then I think it’s worth the gamble. We got 5m for Hooper and we need his goal return if you get a player in to do that you will also put bums on seats, everyone’s a Winner.
So I say spend the Hooper money on a new striker if its Finnbogasson or whoever we need that goal return.
If the goals are not replaced we will go back instead of forward.
Give Lenny the tools for the job.
I reserve the right to be a happy clapper today and a mineshafter tomorrow. Or vice versa.
Hail! Hail!
timaloy
you can imagine all you want
i`d prefer a proven CB pairing going into the most important game of the season
PFayr,
in praising the board re VW and GH …you negate the influence of the footballing staff
the progression of these two players has more to do with Lenny et al …than the board who paid out the wapping £3.5m for their services
So should we crucify the footballing staff for the inability to get anything out of Bangura, Miku, Lassad and Murphy who they chose to play for Celtic at a similar cost?
You cannot have it both ways.
If Kelvin Wilson was the real deal why a few days ago were you on the blog telling all and sundry that you have never forgiven him for his defending against Kilmarnock in the League Cup Final.
We have cover at centre half, in my opinion.
We need another striker who Lenny says we will buy, patience is what we need right now, still time to add one more to the squad for Saturday and for the play off game so no need to panic. Yet!
@Hamiltontim
I think we already purchased the replacement for Wilson, unfortunately he is crocked – can’t blame a cautious spending policy for that.
I’d like us to replace Wanyama and Hooper, but I think we can get through without them. We have attacking options – Sammy, Stokes, Balde, Commons and Watt to choose from.
We have midfielders to step in for Wanyama, not in the same class, but we don’t have 12 million to spend!
If we qualify, I think we’ll struggle big time without an out and out striker and good holding midfielder, but for this stage, so long as we are organised we should have enough.
Tony Donnelly
Sorry pal but yellow card for abuse of the word ‘personnel’. Five times is way too much. A second yellow for use it at all when you should have used the word ‘personal’.
Whenever, I do something like this I inevitably make the same type of mistake in my next post so that’s me for the day.
You’re off!