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Middlesbrough finished a point off the play-offs in the English Championship last season, which was not enough to save manager, Tony Pulis, from the sack.  Pulis is an experienced hand with teams fighting relegation from the Premiership or looking for promotion to it, having worked at Stoke, Crystal Palace and West Brom.

A month after the sacking, Middlesbrough gave rookie, Jonathan Woodgate, the job, with former Celtic striker, Robbie Keane his assistant.

Football teams have a tendency to overcompensate for their last perceived mistakes when appointing a manager.  Pulis was taken from a regular, if uninspiring, stock.  They have not made that ‘mistake’ with Woodgate.

The former Real Madrid defender will bring colour and excitement to the Riverside, at least in the short-term, but his chances of out-performing Pulis next season are open to debate.  Middlesbrough have the resources to attract managerial talent from most leagues in Europe or South America.  While these territories have worked well for others seeking improvement in England, there are significant risks.

Like Sunderland, who appointed St Mirren manager, Jack Ross, a year ago, they could have looked to less-risky Scotland, but can you name an appropriate candidate who would be up for this one?

Appointing a rookie is a big roll of the dice, to be avoided if possible.  But anyone who tells you appointing a sure-fire success is easy doesn’t know what he’s talking about.  All you can hope to do is avoid sure-fire failures.

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  1. DISCOLAND

     

     

    Come on Celtic lets get another Honest 9 Titles.

     

     

    Praise Yeshua for Every bit of Silverware Celtic win .

     

     

    !967 was mega in so many ways.

     

     

    The Big Man is the BIG MAN.

     

     

    Listen up and Listen Good.

     

     

    My name is MC Lenny.

     

     

    Best Ever

     

     

    Listen Up…. for those that have a short span of attention….. fast forward to 20:48.

     

     

    Magical Sonics.

     

     

    God Bless Every Home Birds.

  2. ciarans dad 2 on

    Watched Argentina v Colombia in Copa America (on Telemundo), Colombia don’t seem to be missing Alfredo Morales

  3. Garry, I was sitting alone on Friday Morning in work…. Dave works the Weekend shift, he comes and sits besides me – first time for long time.

     

     

    Fearne is an Angel now

     

     

    @ the wee get together we had just after Christmas he did say that Fearne was now an Angel was Mega.

  4. Molly, Fearne and so many others are up there looking out for us all despite it being the end times.

     

     

    The Great Falling away. :((

  5. Canamalar it looks like OCD obsession on

    Petec,

     

    A Pigeonhole is too big a universe for you.

     

     

    I know from your own words that you are a zionist, and that’s all anyone needs to know when discussing the genocide of the Semitic Palestinian natives. It is something you cannot escape by ignoring and trying to avoid facing. The Genocide is in direct conflict with the Christs teachings and you are a hypocrite. Keep on reading your Old Testament and pretending to be a Christian.

  6. Canamalar,

     

     

    You are so very wrong, in so many ways.

     

     

    You won’t see that though, as you are always right, in your Tiny mind.

  7. Greenpinata

     

     

    Thanks for that posting you made re the advert in the Gaurdian.:-)

     

     

    HH

  8. Good morning, friends from a drizzly, grey EK. And best wishes to all the Fathers among us. I’m blessed with a rebel treble of a daughter and two sons, each of whom make me very proud. I lost my own dada when I was just 22 so it’s the usual present from me of flowers on his graveside. Then looking forward to a day of pampering and, later, the chance to marvel at the skills of Alex Morgan ;-)

  9. Jobo

     

     

    I always tell MissGFTB that her mum is the most important person in her life (like my own mum :-) .. but this is the one day us fathers are spoiled and in fact if it wasn’t for us fathers who would all the mothers have to moan and boss about :-)

     

     

    Galaxy for breakfast …

     

     

    Alex Morgan ? USA … bring on Martin Compston (67) and James McAvoy in Soccer Aid … think Gordon Ramsay stopped playing when the original Rangers passed away

     

     

    Hail Hail

  10. That’s a classy touch Jobo

     

     

    But I’d kinda expect that of you bud.

     

    Take care

     

     

    HH jg

  11. Happy Father’s Day Dads and a great day to all their offspring…

     

     

    GFTB @ 1:37 AM,

     

     

    Missed your post, was on the wrong page… literally.

     

     

    Yes, I’ve had some very odd experiences in the past… not for some time though.

     

     

    The businessmen will do their thing, they have their agenda, they’ll work it, it’s the same in most walks of life. They’ll try to get their way through fair means or foul, it’s the nature of the beast.

     

     

    It’s all about the football for me and the Glasgow Celtic way. Stein, McNeil, Burns, McStay, Lubo, KoK, O’Neil, Naka, KT… and the hundreds more…

     

     

    As for next season que sera, sera…

     

     

    Hail Hail

  12. Chairbhoy 10.08am

     

     

    Much the same here … before CQN I never even gave the board or suits a second thought … one of the many down sides of the “online” stuff :-) but thankfully I think the positives outweigh the negatives … a bit like the Celtic support :-)

  13. weebobbycollins on

    Happy grampas day to all the grey and bald heids…Three generations going for a ride then a swim and eventually into the garden, if the rain stays away…well, anything’s better than watching women’s fitba…(sorry Jobo). :-)

  14. A tale of two transfers

     

     

    Ironic, this weekend whilst David Turnbull and his advisors consider his 19 year old weekly worth, Real Madrid are similarly agent hawking Gareth Bale who was ‘the best player in the world’, but unable to establish himself in Madrid.

     

     

    Under contract till 2022 Bayern Munich are the latest club likely to mibbees gamble, on his weekly worth in the fantasy land, where our club holds up the banner at the other end of the spectrum, of a well run football clubs.

     

     

    Provincial clubs in Scotland, of which Motherwell certainly are, have a basic wage, appearance, and win bonus, for players unlikely to go beyond four figures a week. David Turnbull on the apprentice scale is unlikely to even reach what a full time pro in Lanarkshire enjoys.

     

     

    Conservative, or even Daily Rancid estimates say Celtic have offered David Turnbull’s agents, £12,000 per week but the advisors appear to be holding out for £13,000 at Barnsley or any other dirty Northern town, that can bite the bullet, and buy SPL goods.

     

     

    Reneging, on millionaire status by the time you are twenty one takes the balls of a true steel man, and I expect we’ll hear early in the week, we’ve moved on to Celtic targets.

     

     

    HH

  15. weebobbycollins on

    Just reading that Shelley Kerr was considered for national team boss before they selected Steve Clarke…

     

    That was a ridiculous idea from the SFA…maybe they wanted to be seen as a modern, one-step-ahead organisation…Petrie listening to Dempster?…absolute joke people…get rid of pronto!

  16. Chairbhoy

     

     

    Sorry I missed your post and apologies to everyone for reposting it next buts it’s important because you go to the heart of the matter.

     

     

    The DR is only using the language that has been used before, calling the money owed to HMRC an unpaid liability.

     

     

    In fact it was an unpaid PAYABLE that is overdue unless it meets 4 conditions that exempt it being treated as such.

     

     

    Calling it a potential liability as RFC did in the proof offered to SFA from Grant Thornton circumvented the need to check if the conditions applied.

     

     

    If you go to the Res12 Archive and check details under 10 August 2018 about a meeting with Celtic you will see a link to a document explaining how UEFA FFP Article 50, that only talks of “payables,” works.

     

     

    The fact is the only folk who have the authority to confirm if an OVERDUE payable existed are UEFA which is why Res12 asked Celtic to ask them to investigate.

     

     

    For unknown reasons this has been strongly resisted all down the line starting with Celtic who insisted the matter be resolved domestically.

     

     

    That resistance continues and in fact the end of March 2011 grant period that caused the current investigation, that concentrates only on the monitoring period submissions by CW in June and September 2011, was removed from scrutiny for unknown reasons one of which would be RFC followed the rules but the non confirmation and evidence suggests otherwise.

     

     

    This exclusion imo was an attempt to avoid the more than suspicious circumstances on which the licence was granted because of the seriousness of admitting guilt ie fraud.

     

     

    All this is a long way of saying there has been no confirmation that false proof was offered and licence improperly granted.

     

     

    The conundrum facing the SFA is they were given last June minutes of an HMRC meeting that show a PAYABLE existed from 21st March 2011 which is at odds with the proof provided to obtain the licence.

     

     

    They were asked to comment but we are still waiting. The reference to the Giannina case in our latest letter was to ensure that unless SFA can say rules were properly followed at the end of March 2011 then that period had to be included in any CAS referral. It was an attempt to make sure the new Comp Off was aware the charges based on those minutes were incomplete.

     

     

    The narrative from foregoing is that everything was being done since Sept 2017 to dump the blame on CW, who only repeated in June and Sept 2011 the slightly different language of the same false reason for there not being an overdue payable, that was used in the licensing application covering end of March.

     

     

    Who was involved from Sept 2017 is a matter of concern and one Celtic, not shareholders, should be pushing and their failure to do so is equally concerning if not more.

     

     

    Perhaps the Maxwell intervention is a sign Celtic are beginning to share concerns or it’s another long grass attempt to push matters until after the AGM in the hope it will all go away.

     

     

    Your original post follows for completeness. If I’ve missed anything or not been clear get back to me.

  17. The original post of 15 June is below.

     

     

    CHAIRBHOY on 15TH JUNE 2019 11:35 AM

     

    AULDHEID @ 9:37 AM,

     

     

     

     

     

     

    Interesting piece, I’ve been struggling with what the latest updates signify – thanks for that.

     

     

     

     

     

     

    You’re far from positive tone doesn’t bode well, though the piece in The Record was interesting… (not the bit about humanising Rod – the smartest guy in the room – Petrie;)

     

     

     

     

     

     

    …it seems to accept the fact that there was unpaid tax, it seems to accept the fact that had Rangers declared it at the time Celtic and not Rangers would have been playing in the UCL qualifiers 2011-12 Season.

     

     

     

     

     

     

    Is this really the case? Has this been established?

     

     

     

     

     

     

    SFA set to make Rangers UEFA licence decision as Ian Maxwell issues update

     

     

     

     

     

     

    The governing body could pursue the Ibrox club over alleged irregularities in their application to play in Europe in 2011.

     

     

     

     

     

     

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    Record Sport Online

     

     

     

     

     

     

    10:52, 13 JUN 2019

     

     

     

     

     

     

    Ian Maxwell has revealed a decision over whether to pursue Rangers over “alleged irregularities” in the club’s application for a UEFA licence in 2011 could be made soon.

     

     

     

     

     

     

    The SFA tasked its compliance officer with instigating a probe into the matter two years ago, which involves the Ibrox club’s unpaid tax liability at the time they submitted the application.

     

     

     

     

     

     

    Had they disclosed the liability, Celtic would have been entered into the Champions League qualifiers the following season.

     

     

     

     

     

     

    Rangers maintain the Five Way Agreement signed off by the SFA, SPL, SFL, the old Rangers and the Newco formed by Charles Green ensured the governing body had no jurisdiction in the case.

     

     

     

     

     

     

    The SFA’s judicial panel ruled the matter must be heard by the Court of Abitration for Sport if there was intent to dole out punishment

     

     

     

     

     

     

    SFA chief executive Ian Maxwell issued an update on the matter

     

     

     

     

     

     

    And now chief executive Maxwell insists the issue could be looked at again in the near future.

     

     

     

     

     

     

    He said: “I would expect that to come back to the board in the not-too-distant future.

     

     

     

     

     

     

    “It (going to CAS) is still under consideration.

     

     

     

     

     

     

    “We’ll come back on that in due course. I wouldn’t want to put a timescale on it.

     

     

     

     

     

     

    “But I don’t think we would let it go for ever.”

     

     

     

     

     

     

    Meanwhile, Maxwell insists new SFA president Rod Petrie is a misunderstood character, despite the Hibs chairman snubbing the media after he ascended unchallenged to the job.

     

     

     

     

     

     

    Petrie’s appointment has been met with derision from critics who are eager to see meaningful change at the top of Scottish football.

     

     

     

     

     

     

    But Maxwell believes perceptions will change and revealed there’s a plan in place to “humanise” the 63-year-old.

     

     

     

     

     

     

    He added: “We’ve had a few conversations about trying to humanise him. That will really help.

     

     

     

     

     

     

    “You’re never in a room and Rod’s not the smartest guy in it.

     

     

     

     

     

     

    “And he’s got a sense of humour, he’s got real humility about him, he’s really good company.

     

     

     

     

     

     

    “He just keeps it fairly well hidden, I suppose. So it’s about drawing that out over the period.”

     

     

     

     

     

     

    Now, my understanding was that Rangers were arguing that; any breach came under the Craig Whyte era so under the 5 way agreement they had immunity, that the SFA had accepted this, which is why CAS needed to be involved.

     

     

     

     

     

     

    Of course if it is, as The Record alludes, accepted that Rangers should have disclosed the unpaid tax in their declaration up to 31 May 2011, this was before Craig Whyte, and under the 5 way agreement New Rangers are responsible for Old Rangers Football rule breaches!!??

     

     

     

     

     

     

    ConfusedCSC

  18. WEEBOBBYCOLLINS

     

     

    Yes Shelley Kerr who seems to be making a mess of Scotland Women’s World Cup . Bizarre selections and tactics.

  19. Fairhill Bhoy

     

     

    Deleted.are.us CSC

     

     

    I thought we were pretty polite to each other :-)

     

     

    Hope you caught my last post and you have a great fathers/grandfathers day

     

     

    Hail Hail

  20. fairhill bhoy on

    Gftb-I got your last post,you probably didn’t get my reply.

     

    I thought we were being civil as well.

     

    Hope you have a good Father’s Day to

  21. Any rumours?

     

     

    It’s all gone awfey quiet…

     

     

    Big CH from Toulose, Harper, Aribo, big daft kid from Lanarkshire…not a peep.

  22. !!Bada Bing!! on 16th June 2019 12:09 pm

     

     

    Not seen South of Tunis on here recently….hope all is ok…

     

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    He hasn’t posted for weeks (unless I’ve missed it).

  23. Fairhill Bhoy 12.11pm

     

     

    I think it’s the way the blog (any blog) should function :-)

     

     

    Quiet day before the “family” descend to disturb my perfect Father’s Day … listening to “off the ball” podcast from Cup final day.. Paddy McCourt & Stephen Frail are the guests… Paddy’s bhoy is 10yr old and is a bit of a player .. when asked if he is like his dad Paddy replies “no, he can run” if big Peter or P67 are lurking get the bhoy signed up pronto

  24. AULDHEID @ 11:04 AM,

     

     

    Thanks for the update.

     

     

    Of course the licence application had to be made by the end of March 2011 and not May as I’d stated. And that was before CW took over at Ibrox.

     

     

    So, it still remains the case that the March 2011, outstanding tax payable from the WTC hasn’t been properly investigated and no known defence to the allegations have been submitted by any Rangers.

     

     

    Despite what The Record says, initially stating the case revolves around “alleged irregularities” then determining… Had they disclosed the liability, Celtic would have been entered into the Champions League qualifiers the following season.

     

     

    What they state is speculative, even if it is, to my mind, what should have happened.

     

     

    Celtic’s reluctance to go to UEFA seems like a very poor decision, especially in light of the fact, their letter of the time shows a lack of confidence in the SFA’s ability &/or willingness to properly investigate.

     

     

    I’ll read through the info on the Res12 website you recommend, thanks again for the clarification.

     

     

    Hail Hail

  25. Tam Cowan gushing about how good a player Paddy McCourt was, even said he asked John Boyle to try and sign him for Motherwell when not playing with us… then they all ask what player do you admire the most (opponent) and would have for your team … Richard Gordon (Aberdeen fan) is asked the same question … his reply … Scott Brown, he then says “he drives opposing fans mental but is a major part of Celtic winning”’ canny disagree with any of that :-)

  26. At the risk of confirming my lack of fitba’ nous……………..

     

     

    Re the boul’ David………He’s nineteen??? If Celtic have identified him as a bona-fide target worth the punt, I’d hope we’d try and make a workaround the current negotiation difficulties……If it’s the type of player we want.

     

     

    The lad’s nineteen…….the age and maturity of his “agent” less clear. At nineteen our potential Bhoy is probably just following orders from the man in the suit. A former brief, relatively new to the agent game – he’s worth the watchin’ but not at the expense of getting the boy to Paradise.

     

     

    HH

  27. Bankiebhoy1 12.46pm

     

     

    With my definite lack of fitba nous I think the boy (not a bhoy yet) is a player … just Sportscene and listening to “pundits” that have worked with the boy … by all accounts he caught Neil’s eye playing against Hibs u-20s a good while back … agents are agents and will just look at £’s signs … which is their job, I think the player will decide even at the tender age of 19… by the way he is a Motherwell fan but I quite enjoy some players not being Celtic fans to start with… they probably appreciate it more when it happens :-)

     

     

    ScottBrownCSC

  28. Hate transfer window time, at one end we get all the hype from accross the road that young guy on free transfer from league 1 are world beaters.

     

     

    Celtic follow the traditional path of making slow to no progress and drive us all round the bend.

  29. Gerry – yes, our converts to the cause somehow define the best of the Club and us.

     

     

    We’ll soon see …………….in these situations I now employ that old adage..

     

     

    ” What’s Feruz wull no’ go past us! !

     

     

    ;)

     

     

    HH.

  30. BANKIEBHOY1 @ 12:46 PM,

     

     

    Yes, it’s all gine quiet so hopefully some uncommon sense has prevailed.

     

     

    Brian McClair tells the story of his move from Motherwell to Celtic involving Jock Wallace and Billy McNeil… (greedy bhoy:))

     

     

    Hail Hail

  31. Stephbhoy 12.56pm

     

     

    The Huns (old or new) always win the transfer window cup… :-)

  32. Cosy Corner Bhoy on

    Just on to ask CRC of anyone else…..Is the mini hoot this Saturday the 22nd

     

    Need to know ASAP!

  33. Bankiebhoy1 1.01pm

     

     

    Ma wee mum used to use that phrase but re-phrased it ….

     

     

    “Whit is meant to hit you won’t miss you”

     

     

    Usually as I got skelped with her slipper :-)