‘Starve your club of money until I get what I want’ is just about the measure of Glib and Shameless’ statement yesterday. No one at the SFA, SPFL, the Glasgow City Council, the Co-op/Vatican Bank or Celtic could do as much damage to the Fledgling Rangers as Dave King’s pronouncement.
These people have taken so many wrong turns in this episode it is like they are being operated by a compulsive Karmic puppeteer. There is a time for withholding ticket sales, Celtic fans did it 20 years ago next month, but Celtic fans had a plan, grassroots support, investors on hand, unencumbered by Fit and Proper concerns, or the law against directors of a liquidated business working in a company using the same or similar name.
Most importantly the Celtic ‘old board’ included some, like Kevin Kelly, who was committed to change, while even the hold-outs were died-in-the-wool Celtic men, if clearly misguided. None of the decision makers would ever consider razing the stadium.
Fledgling Rangers are at the mercy of hedge funds, some spivs and a couple of ‘Rangers’ men, who must be increasingly frustrated at the attempts of others to usurp what they legitimately bought and paid for.
Before stepping off the ledge – and make no mistake, stopping fans from buying season tickets is the only way to kill not just a club, but any successor clubs – you need to be sure you are in a position to cut a deal, and that you have the cash to make it all possible. If you don’t have a watertight plan, you are working towards the end of your football club and its dilapidated remains.
I would be utterly amazed if the Easdales or Laxey Partners submit to this Glib and Shameless series of demands. If they do, I have seriously misread them.
King was on the oldco board when they walked slowly to the gallows, all for the want of the kind of money he now says is needed to make Newco competitive with Celtic. His chance to bang the populist drum and raise some cash was in the years before the club, stadium, stock and bike were sold for a combined total of £1.
It makes you wonder if there is a plan to march the entire club, and all its symbolism, into the sea, before picking up the driftwood after another liquidation. For a fan of the club that would be horrendous, but think of the rich pickings available to whoever can grab the assets.
This is high stakes poker, but those forcing the issue don’t have any skin in the game. Even if the whole thing is washed away in the storms, they will avoid most of the blame.
Delighted to read Fergus McCann on the club site this morning:
“I am very proud when I see Celtic’s progress, its status in Scotland, and its worldwide reputation. Especially when I see the great work of Celtic FC Foundation carrying on the legacy of Brother Walfrid.”
Despite the perspective that the events of 2012 gave us I still meet people who just don’t get what he did for Celtic. No football fan is under any obligation to worry about their club’s finances but the man at the top is, and when our top man wore a bunnet, our transformation was outstanding.
There is a little over two weeks to go before the CQteN St Patrick’s Night Dinner on Friday, 14 March, at the Kerrydale Suite, Celtic Park. The beneficiary of the night will be Kholoni Primary School, Malawi, where we will fund Mary’s Meals to build a kitchen for 1200 kids who currently don’t have meal facilities.
We have received some incredible assistance already (more on what happened in Germany and Belgium when I get the next stage of the development ready), but you can get involved by ordering a personalised beanie hat, with your name on one side and CQN on the other.
Hats cost £15 each and if you order before 7 March you can collect yours at the CQteN Dinner. If you’re not attending the dinner (and why not?) the £15 will cover postage and packaging. If you ordered a Virtual Ticket, you’re personalised hat is part of your package. All profits go to the school kitchen.
Take a look at the front and back of the hats. To order, email hatfrompat@celticquicknews.co.uk with name, whether you are attending CQteN and address if not, and I’ll get your message to Pat.
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BRTH, I just think they’re being polite and know you new boots:-)
craigellachie10
00:25 on 28 February, 2014
Lymmbhoy
Wow! Your lads are learning from the maestro.
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Lucky bhoys indeed!!!
HH
ACGR
Was at the consultant today, I am allowed to go to the range once or twice a week…4-6 weeks before the golf and have to keep up the walks.
Hope u n the mrs doing well and kept that young whippersnapper TET on a tight leash or wan of his ain collars….
Kikinthenakas
lymmbhoy, I hope your lads do well under the guidance of a man who I doubt anyone on this blog would object to being referred to as a true Celtic legend.
Lucky lucky bhoy’s.
HH
Thomthetim…..
Ferguson is one horrible bassa and no friend of Celtic.
He got lucky that King Kenny left Liverpool when he did.
Piece of shite….proved it in his last book.
Keano knows how to rile the red nosed wino,so the coward had a go in his book.
Nite nite hail hail
Brogan Rogan Trevino and Hogan supports Oscar Knox, MacKenzie Furniss and anyone else who fights Neuroblastoma
00:46 on
28 February, 2014
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Funny I was thinking the same and I think the answer lies in that email.
In 5 years time we are not going to need e mail!
Kickin
Young whippersnapper
Ha, delighted you see me as young, feck me, I would be at least ten years older than you FFS, over the feckin Moon >}}}
HH
ACGR
No, the moniker doesn’t relate to a direct connection to the village but there is an indirect connection to the area. We used to stay in a house of that name whose original owners had links to the distillery.
Now based in auld reekie which makes attendance at games easier than it has been in the past especially when based in Hebcelt’s backyard.
Ok bhoys, shamelessly reposting, hits required, feckin google are theivin scum so they are, pay them, you get up their ladder, otherwise it’s hits.
New site is online.
http://www.crystalsandcollars.co.uk/
HH
TET
Post was heavy with irony…..and red wine….enjoy ur festivities tomorrow….
Kikinthenakas
ACGR
Thanks, totally agree.
HH
THE EXILED TIM
00:51 on
28 February, 2014
I would love to get there and we have spoken of the how, but I was just wondering what would make folk feel, if fault can be demonstrated and there is the possibility it cannot be, that this was an issue they got some satisfaction from devoting their time and attention to.
The Exiled Tim
Happy to run a comp in next CQN Mag – with Yogi Bear but no Pat Nevin – and can also send out a email flyer for you if you promise not to tell what you know about us becoming the a Exiled Celtic!
Kickin
Trust me I will >}
Lots of free vino is the lure, all the bars are doing a special, what to do…just try them all I reckon >}}}
HH
TET
Lovin your work….aff tae bed….enjoy ramorra…
Kikinthenakas
TET, the new site looks great but I think Doc will be disappointed as I don’t see a section for full leather body suits and gimp masks.
TET
Auldheid @Auldheid · now
Please pay this site a visit, even if only to up the hit count BUT the gear is quality leather. http://www.crystalsandcollars.co.uk/ and is recommended.
Auldheid
I know, but what is the process ?
We can stamp our feet all day long, to no avail, unless we take a stand and show we mean biz we are farting against teh wind.
As a support, we are weak, weaker than we have ever been IMO, and that bothers me big time, we are in a position to make serious changes, and I see no progress on that front, I ask myself why would that be, and I would hope all Celtic fans are asking the same quetion.
Where are we, serious question ?
Are we still at the back of the bus ?
Are we happy to accept the sfa and all their shite ?
Are we happy to accept all they throw at us, I for one am not, answer, you know what thew answer is mi amigo.
HH
winning captains
01:10 on
28 February, 2014
The Exiled Tim
Happy to run a comp in next CQN Mag – with Yogi Bear but no Pat Nevin – and can also send out a email flyer for you if you promise not to tell what you know about us becoming the a Exiled Celtic!
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You have lost me mi amigo, normally I can decipher most things but this one, I am sadly lacking.
HH
Bawsman
00.52
Hi, do you contribute to TSFM web-site?
I ask because I don’t contribute anything there. I came to here from the RTC blog after it ceased. I’m interested in the post above but confused from reading it how the posters there are supposed to frame their response in a meaningful fashion.
Is my thinking correct? A letter with supporting appendices has been sent to the relevant authorities and TSFM intend to inform those authorities about the response from their readers to the letter without the appendices.
Excuse me if you only reposted out of general interest and aren’t one of the inner circle at TSFM.
Thanks for the hits bhoys, they are very much appreciated.
Google want about 10 grand to boost the site up their ladder, and thqt only takes it up a page, a page of thousands, theivin feckers.
All I ask for is hits, free hits, it will get ne up a rung or two, but better than giving them tory bassas our cash, keep it in house I say.
Hits are good>}}
http://www.crystalsandcollars.co.uk/
HH
GuyFawkesaforeverhero
01:30 on
28 February, 2014
There should be a comments functionality and I suspect it has been overlooked as TSFM has been spending all week trying to get the original site back after a DOS attack.
Hopefully that will be corrected sometime later today.
eddiegreenhillsbhoy
23:21 on
27 February, 2014
Greendreamz
Have to say I’m surprised that a celt to compare paul maestro mcstay to that of stillian petrov as similar was shocking.paul mcstay best celtic midfielder since lisbon lions to date, .
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It an opinion on a footballer…nothing else
I’m 54 and seen just about all of the great ones since about ’72. Even saw a few of the Lions at the end of their CFC careers………McNeil, Lennox, Johnstone, Murdoch and Craig
Paul McStay played more than most but others were at least as good……..and some were definitely better. Murdoch is a Lion so he doesn’t count……… LOL
SOME STATS (for midfielders) Games to Goals
McStay…………1981–1997 Celtic 515 (56) 9.19
Murray…………1973–1976 Celtic 62 (11) 5.63
Hay…………….1968–1974 Celtic 130 (6) 21.66
Petrov………….1999–2006 Celtic 228 (55) 4.14
Collins………….1990–1996 Celtic 221 (47) 4.7
George Connolly.1968–1976 Celtic 136 (5) 27.2
Tommy Burns…..1975–1989 Celtic 352 (52) 6.76
PRODUCTIVITY:
Petrov……….4.14 Games per goal
Collins……….4.17
Murray………5.63
Burns………..6.76
McStay………9.19
Hay…………21.66
Connolly……27.2
IF THEY PLAYED THE SAME AMOUNT OF GAMES:
Petrov………. 124.36
Collins………..124.50
Murray………..91.47
Burns…………76.18
McStay……….56.00
Hay………….. 23.77
Connolly………18.93
Just saying like…….
TET, many Celtic fans are asking that question, I know I am. My SB renewal for next season is in the balance. I want to see what the club do and how they respond to the good work done on my behalf by guy’s like the Res 12 team.
Me coming on here and ranting about it achieves nothing. Come the time I’ll decide, as will many others.
I hope to be a Celtic park for many years to come.
THE EXILED TIM
01:27 on
28 February, 2014
No. Quite the reverse. We need to take others with us, not be seen as the bully boys.
Speak softly, wield big stick.
TET
“Guy’s check out my buddy’s web site for leather Celtic gear, real quality stuff. Have a look, you don’t even need to buy as getting hits on his site helps his costs. Get some ordered though, you wont regret it.
http://www.crystalsandcollars.co.uk/
Help out this fledgling tim industry.
HH Bhoys”
Posted by me five minutes ago on a wee “black ops” timmy site I’m on.
Auldheid
01.36
Thanks for responding, it’s appreciated.
I don’t intend to register at TSFM as I’m not a fan of the back-slapping involved therein.
Nevertheless, I’ll read it in a day or two to find out what its contributors make of the partial disclosure.
ACGR
I honestly don’t know the answer, it’s been buggin me for some time, we are winning games, we are winning the league, but yet there is an apathy that is reeking of apathy, it’s quite scary.
The majority of celtic supporters still believe what they read in the rags, they still believe what they hear in thew phone ins, how the feck can we say we are educated when this is going on ffs.
HH
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Auldheid
I am at a loss mi amigo, I honestly think we are on the edge of the jumping over the wall, it’s now or never, we either go for broke, or we die.
That is our choice, we go for bringing them down, or they kill us.
Can you tell me I am wrong ?
I doubt it, it’s now or never, and you know that fine well.
HH
Sleep well mi bros n sisters.
HH
KTF
Had a few too much tonight, wtf,I do every night.
All the best with the site TET
HH
TET, I view the opinions and feelings I see on CQN , KDS and other sites as being a small percentage of the Celtic support. I know lots of Celtic fans who don’t read any site’s and are reliant on the BBC, ITV Sky and the record for their information, duff or otherwise. On the way to Barcelona the guy I was sat beside on the flight was salivating over the cheating bastard club gaining entry to our league. I hope in the space of the three hour flight I helped change his mind, he was utterly clueless and I think that is the way of the majority.
If a reincarnation of the govan zombies do appear in our league and I still retain my SB I will not attend those home games, nor will I farm my seat out. I will not attend a game versus the cheats. In the mean time, the club will need to do a lot of convincing before they get my SB money next season, and the ones thereafter.
I hope to be attending paradise for a long long time.
Celtic need to help me on that score.
Hail Hail Celtic men and wummin *sparkleghirl”. Off to make sure the oil keeps flowing in the pipeline.
We Are Celtic
A CEILER GONOF RUST
The only oil you’re interested in is baby oil for your wee jousts wi Annabel.
Sparkleghirl
Yep. I gota pretty good view of the Aurora about 2230 at Burghead on the Moray coast. At work so not able to get into a low streetlight environment where it could be appreciated at it’s finest.
Hoping it’s back on tomorrow and I will get to suitable vantage point about 2130 before work.
HH
ACGR and TET –
I have asked this question a couple of times before but never got an answer. I’ll go for third time lucky.
You both (and a few others on CQN) seem to be saying that if Sevco make their way into the Premiership, you are finished with football or will not renew season books, or variations of the theme.
When Newco applied to go straight into the SPL, they were bombed out. When they subsequently tried to sneak into the old First Division, they were similarly sent packing and were dumped into Division 3 as is befitting a new club.
Oh how we laughed and there was much rejoicing in Timdom.
Now, here is what I do not understand.
When Newco were banished to Division 3, they were never at any time told they would not be allowed back into the top flight. Predictably they gained promotion at the first time of asking and are now clearly on the verge of gaining promotion to the Championship. So next season they will obviously be chasing entry to the Premiership. Whether they achieve that goal is a matter of conjecture but leaving that aside, they have the opportunity, as things currently stand.
So what is it exactly that you want Celtic to do to stop that happening? As I say, we all, and that includes Celtic FC, enjoyed the spectacle of them being told to sling their hook when they tried to worm their slimy way straight into the top flight. When they started off in Division 3, nobody demanded that they never be allowed into the top flight in future, as long as they do it within the rules and through promotion, so why are some Celtic supporters now baulking at the prospect of them eventually making it to the Premiership?
Believe me I hope they die and disappear altogether, but unless and until that happens, can someone please explain to me what it is you are scared of? Why do you now want the rules changed just to keep Sevco out of the Premiership if they earn it through promotion?
Again, what do you expect Celtic and Peter Lawwell to do? Do you want them to go to the SFA and say we don’t want them in the top flight? And when the SFA ask for their reasons? What will those reaons be?
In short, what are you guys scared of?
Gold coast Tom
Can’t speak for anyone other than myself, but froim my perspective at least, when Sevco were admitted into Division 3 (not in my opinion befitting a new club, who should have been asked to apply along with Spartans and all the other well run junior clubs accross the country), I had an niaive expectation that a number of things would happen in the coming months
Title stripping
A clearout at the SFA
EBTs and dual contracts recognised as what they really were
The new club being recognised as just that.
Crroks being banged to rights
As we all now know, none of this has (yet) happened and I will be thouroghly disgusted if the tribute act turn up in the same division as us with almost zero debt, unpunished,undiminnished in their own eyes and that of the MSM, crowing about 54 titles or whatever they think they have acheived and with the same ‘protection racket’ provided by MIBs and the two surname brigade.
There are many, well almost everyone on here who could put it a lot better than me but that’s how I feel
HH
Of course it turns out that
Strike the last half sentence.
HH
Ooops, must ‘ve broke the blog
HH
Kojo
22:53 on
27 February, 2014
Or,to put it another way…………….
First,close the back door.