In terms of pure logic, Ally McCoist was quite right to insist, “I can also assure every Rangers fan I will not be accepting any talk of stripping the club of titles. That is something we will never accept and everyone at the club shares this view.”
It is outrageous to put Sevco in the position of accepting Rangers are stripped of previous league titles while due process has not been carried out. The very fact that the SFA and SPL are negotiating with Sevco over this matter is reason enough for McCoist to issue a firm rebuttal. Quite simply, if the authorities are prepared to negotiate, their offer should be rejected until the last moment possible, at which point they will be meekly accepted.
The SFA and SPL must allow due process to take place and remove any need for Sevco to rubber-stamp a judgement on Rangers. It is wholly inappropriate to discuss or agree the consequences of a guilty verdict, or subsequent punishments (losing titles won illegally is not a punishment), until a verdict is recorded.
Due process, please, nothing more and nothing less. If Rangers didn’t illegally register players for over a decade neither they nor Sevco have anything to worry about.
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Watched the game against the Ajax.
Yep… we played jist like Ah figgered.
In that game..The Celtic Players resembled a Bunch of Individualists, who had met fur the first time in the Local Ice Cream Parlor.. and…
Foon oot that they shared a common Interest in the Fitba’..
so, they decided tae awe meet. . efter Mass, the next Sunday.. and mak thur wey tae the Fifty Pitches, fur a Guid Auld Fashioned… Kick Aboot.
Neil and his Cohorts ,are still Two or Three Games away fae, marshalling thur Force o’ Returning Holiday-Makers, into a Semblance of a Fitba’ Team.
Last Night’s All Round Team Performance, should, therefore, be totally discounted. as being a true representation of How this Celtic Team will fare, when the Euro Games Take place.
Celtic, as a Fitba’ Team.. are Notorious, fur being.. Slow Starters.,… in Ma opinon.
Ah suggest that the Fans dinnae Pey any attenshun tae
how badly, we wur shown up, by the Dutch, in last Night’s Game.
No LASTING JUDGMENTS … of Either… The Over-All Performance of the Team ,as a Whole..
or of ANY INDIVIDUAL’S Performance,
should Be made…Based oan ..
Last Night’s Embarrassing Defeat.
Kojo
Still, Laughin’… of Course!
When Ajax go from a Saturday domestic game to an EL or CL game, they don’t have to play in such a different manner. It’s not a huge step up, unless they are playing Barca, Real, etc.
It’s a huge step up for us from a domestic SPL game! The gulf is too great and it’s not something that can be rectified quickly.
A Cypriot team with a mere fraction of our budget won their CL group stage last season. I think they actually got through to the last 8. How can that happen, when we could only manage last 16?
Between us and the Financial Dope’s 11, foreign coaches and players were tried, millions spent, but we still couldn’t achieve what that small Cypriot club did last season. Why?
T4
Awe Naw
I bet he’s not putting as much store in it as some on here though :-)
Bundoran Bhoy – RAISING AWARENESS OF NEUROBLASTOMA (GOD BLESS WEE OSCAR) on 22 July, 2012 at 17:05
I sent an email about meeting at the Norwich game on Tuesday to collect.
Don’t know if you got it?
see what i mean on here,some just cant admit it that the team and the coaches are rank rotten, but i will say for them. oh and by the way i will still support celtic, but i am within my right to say if the team is rotten or otherwise.sometimes the truth hurts
tommytwiststommyturns on 22 July, 2012 at 17:40 said:
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Basically down to luck, WGS team should’ve/could’ve beaten Milan and got thru, we punched well above our weight just like the Cypriot team.
Euro football for teams like us is down to the luck of the draw and sometimes luck in the game. I always see it as a bonus, never expect to beat anyone to be honest.
I have just seen my old uncle on to a plane back home after 10 days in Cyprus. I say uncle but he’s been more like my dad these past 20 years.
I brought him here for a family wedding.
He’s 85 and can hardly walk now and his general health is failing. I thought i would get him over for a Kelly family hooley while he still could, being as how there is nothing in the world he loves more that a good family shindig, and a song or six.
He has been a Celtic man all his life, Clydebank born, family of eleven, all now gone except for him.
Don’t get me wrong – he is father to three, grandfather to nine and great-grandfather to two and he is still blessed with the company of the Sligo lass he wed in 1947, who has a love of English beer and the voice of a foghorn on account of her ears being pummelled by a lifetime working in the Yorkshire mills.
We had night after late night on the balcony here, talking about the Celtic and related matters.
He told me about how he joined the merchant navy at 19, having had a bellyfull of the ‘whit school did ye go to’ approach to employment in the Clydeside shipyards.
And about his awe at being handed the West Riding Cup by John Charles when he captained his Yorkshire town’s winning team.
I got a taxi to take us both to a bar where the Ajax game was on.
I was shocked at the level of performance, well, our level of performance, and I was spitting feathers, as a lot on here have been doing.
He just sat there, applauding Ajax for their play.
Back at the balcony i said something like: “Did you not find that embarrassing?”
I will paraphrase, because his reply lasted about an hour. Never, ever say that the eleven men in the hoops embarrass you. Yes, i would like to see Celtic win every game they play, but being a Celtic man means more than winning.
He told me of the black, black days of the late 40s, the 50s and early 60s: “what would you have done then, when we were winning nothing? Not gone? Gone, and booed the players? Fernie, Peacock, Stein, Tully? Success isn’t a right. We follow the Celtic through thick and thin. Otherwise you can’t call yourself a supporter.”
I know this is the attitude of a very old man, and probably doesn’t chime well in 2012. But it will do for me.
He also said that he never thought he would live to see the day that “that mob of bigots, hooligans and louts” would ever get their come-uppance in a country where they were regarded as “the footballing wing of the anti-Irish establishment”, which is a phrase i am going to steal and pass off as my own.
I think he might have one last jaunt in him. I want to take him, later this year, to the Estadio Nacional – i went there myself last year – and sit him down at the exact same spot of concrete he occupied on that day of days in 1967.
Sorry for rambling on but i’m sat on the balcony here as the sun goes down, and i’m missing them.
Mes que un club.
derrydave
Your language, quite frankly, does not surprise me.
You should know that this blog has rules and language violations are frowned upon.
I can tell, therefore, from your response, that my posts definitely struck a chord with you.
It was a friendly where the manager tried out a new formation, which, he later admitted did not work.
Your criticisms of the manager and the club were hunnish, in my opinion.
And I couldn’t give a damn if you were once a season ticket holder.
Thank God you aren’t now.
Celtic Park is for Celtic supporters.
And Celtic Football Club deserve better than you.
DerryDave.
Pal.. Ye hiv goat the wrang Idea.. friend..
This Forum has no been set up. Tae be Used ..
as a Handy Dandy Vehicle, fur Throwing Insults and Castigations at Any Folk , who ye Happen tae Disagree!
Please,tone doon yer.. Personal Attacks.
Do Ah mak masel. Clear?
Please issue an Apology.
Hamiltontim
Phil to name one but quite a few on here seem to think you are being disloyal if you dare criticise or expect improvements
is last yrs season ticket being used for this season, or is a new one being issued for this season,
HT
Guess what ? ;-)
Hail Hail
ElDiegoBhoy on 22 July, 2012 at 16:56:
Aye, you woke me up, fell asleep on the Couch…Mrs. LB not best pleased I did.
Bundoran Bhoy – RAISING AWARENESS OF NEUROBLASTOMA (GOD BLESS WEE OSCAR) on 22 July, 2012 at 17:02:
I always speak sense…well most of the time…:)
Keep the Faith!
Hail Hail!
Watched the first half of the game in the Abbey pub in Paisley yesterday(visiting friends)I thought it just highlighted how much we need to add to our central defence .A really poor performance glad I did not see the second half.
Jeg er,
Lovely post there mate,ye’ll never beat the Clydebank men..
Kojo
Cheers mate!
I hope you are well!
ulysses mcghee on 22 July, 2012 at 17:29 said:
Spot on.
There were enough examples last season to suggest we would struggle wae Ajax.
jmccormick on 22 July, 2012 at 17:20 said:
For every game they played with players on dual contracts, ie illegally registered a 0-3 result must be recorded. Then the records will be adjusted.
As stated here and elsewhere this is not a punishment, just the administration of the rules. An administrative process.
Bet it feels like a punishment though;-)
shimmies33
We’ve played 4 friendlies.
Are we out of the Champions League?
Or, are we out of the Europa League?
Or, how many league games in the new season have we lost?
Still time to improve fitness AND sign/sell players.
Unless you guys know something we don’t!
For those who are stymied by the Ipads predictive text function try this –
Under settings, pick keyboard. Turn off autocorrect.
Job done.
Lennybhoy @ 17:46 – “I always speak sense….”
Who’s your source?!! :-)
The Huddle – Our ambitions must lie in Europe, especially now that there’s not even a domestic two-horse race with a crooked competitor. X in a row will not encourage me to keep on renewing my season card. I want to see real improvement in the football environment that really matters.
HH
TTTT
Jeg er Neil Lennon-Greeninbingley on 22 July, 2012 at 17:43 said:
Bloody brilliant he sounds like some man.
I’m only 41 but his hour long rant would have resonated well with me.
It’s the point I was, poorly, trying to make for hours!!
My dear,dear,dear,friend.. Philbhoy
Hiya,Doin’.. Palomine??
Ah am feelin’ Mighty Fine…everything, in Ma Boady..is noo.. Ship-Shape..in Bristol Fashion!
Nice Chatting.
Kojo
Yer pal..who likes ye aloater…alwiz , Did.
Still, Laughin’… like Heidi.
Awe Naw
:-)
Pleasure as usual!
Kojo
It has been a tough year healthwise however now well on the mend!
I am glad you are well too!
Take care my friend!
hamiltontim
Think you asked earlier. We spent most of the afternoon sitting in the cold outside Wetherspoon’s corner of Hope St. and Argyle St.
Oldtim was particularly dapper looking having paid a visit to Slater’s earlier and changing into his new clobber in the changing room!
tommytwiststommyturns on 22 July, 2012 at 17:52:
Eh…me!! :)
Keep the Faith!
Hail Hail!
Interesting …..the gift that keeps on giving
“In the debate over whether the SPL buys the broadcast rights to SFL games featuring Rangers, we’ve just spotted a rather interesting quirk. Sevco Scotland Limited was accepted to the SFL as an Associate Member, and will not be eligible for full Member status for four years. Rule 19 of the SFL Constitution says:
“An Associate Member shall have no financial interest in the assets of the League and shall not be accorded any voting rights.”
We assume “the assets of the League” include its media rights. (Indeed, as far as we can see those would be pretty much the only assets jointly owned by the League.) Rule 19 would seem to suggest that if the SFL does want to sell “Rangers” games to the SPL – or indeed to anyone else – not only will the newco not be entitled to a vote on the matter, but it won’t be entitled to any of the money either.
We haven’t seen anyone else mention this. It seems quite significant.”
Greeninbingley – he sounds like a man you don’t meet every day. I hope he’s around for a long time yet and gets to see some great stuff from this Hoops squad.
If you’re in Cyprus, what’s the story with the standard of football there?
T4
Awe Naw
I gave up watching after 2-0 to be honest. I see pre-season as marketing. Ajax – first pool, second pool – are always going to be an organised outfit.
We were getting skelped down that right hand side. With I think 5 in midfield.
The Europa Cup Winners – the last 8 eight of that comp in fact – are light years in front of Celtic.
It’s a shame, but it’s a fact. In much the same way as the English pundits and commentators are now realising that ‘you can’t/won’t win anything with bulldogs’ – how can Celtic (A Scottish team who will lose any talent worthy of that level to England at the least) compete and improve – unless we employ Jim MacLean type contracts?
U
ElDiego
You make him sound like Clarke Kent :-)
Philbhoy, you are quite simply an idiot – sometimes you’ve got to call a spade a spade. I’m not sure you really understand what the word supporter means, but I’ve supported Celtic all my life and take quite a bit of offence at some idiot who claims I’m not because I comment honestly on what was a disgraceful performance. Maybe we should all state pravda-like that all is rosy in the garden ?? Or is stating your opinion now hunnish behaviour ?? What a stupid stupid individual you seem.
hamiltontim
Well he is a super man:o)
Ps philbhoy, the disgust and embarrassment I expressed at last nights performance was felt pretty universally by those in attendance. then again all of us at the match were probably just hunnish, not real supporters, and people who should not be welcomed at Celtic Park ???
My dear,dear,dear,friend.. Philbhoy
Glad ye are feeling Mighty Fine. as weel.. Pally.
Aye, The Importance o’ Yer General Health..is the Fifteen Hundred Pun Gorilla…in the Single- End!
Ah am passing oan That info..
As Ah hiv, Newly. Found it tae be True!
Kojo
Yer Pal. .who likes ye mair and mairer.
Still… Laughin’… of Course!
“Beşiktaş have completed the transfers of Allan McGregor and Julien Escude.
Both McGregor and Escude join the Black eagles on a free transfer and both players have signed 2 year contracts with the Istanbul giants.
ex-Rangers goalkeeper Allan McGregor will receive €1.2 million per season, while Julien Escude contract details are yet to be disclosed.
The experienced keeper spent six seasons at Rangers and has 21 Scotland international caps.”
derrydave
You have called me “idiot” and “stupid”.
I will not lower myself to your level and will say that I will direct no more posts to you.
You don’t deserve any more.
tommytwiststommyturns on 22 July, 2012 at 17:52 said:
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Again no offence but if you are planing to follow Celtic for the European fun you will be disappointed, but you’re a Celtic fan so that’s surely not a surprise.
We are generally woeful in Europe, 90% of teams are, everything is a bonus. The SPL is our life and unless that changes we have to accept that.