BBC’s series, Scotland’s Game, has become compulsive viewing. Tales of redemption for Celtic, Hearts and others, and tales of woe for some. Last night’s episode had a few remarkably frank admissions.
One which caught the eye was former-Rangers former-manager, Alex McLeish, who admitted his title winning team “would’ve been behind [Celtic]” had they not funded their squad through EBTs. We should all take note for when the Big Tax Case reaches the Supreme Court.
Pleased to see the appropriate amount of damage done to Rangers by majority owner and chairman, David Murray, was correctly attributed, with one or two character defects throw in for good measure by contributing journalist, Tom English.
Aberdeen have nailed their proverbial flag to the mast this week with the word, “No previous meeting found” on their fixture list comment on a forthcoming game against Newco. It’s a simple comment, it’s accurate, has been confirmed in writing by Uefa and will position the club shoulder-to-shoulder with their fans.
Get it right, Celtic.
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THE GREEN MAN SAYS SACK THE BOARD on 2ND SEPTEMBER 2016 12:15 PM
BSR
Big Peter will probably apologize on their behalf:)
Without telling them first:)
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As the Celtic fans start singing ‘you’re not Rangers anymore’ PL will be seen shaking his head in shame before kicking back on his heated Directors seat.
Good Afternoon Bhoys, Well done the Dandies, We must follow suit or the games a bogey.
We don’t need them and never have, Has our own board fooled itself into believing we need the cheats?
Cause us nothing but hassle in every shape and form.
Judging by the ticket prices for the game on the 10th, they are quite prepared to be cheated for 12 years and take the bigot pound. I hope I am wrong.
Silence on Res12, any kind of condemning comment in the past 4 years and now the ticket prices has me doubting the soul of our club.
We will be cheated this year and have been already and if we some how lose of the 10th you can bet your bottom dollar it will be because of an honest mistake or two and the club will say nothing and expect us to get on with it. Rubbish.
Aberdeen have shown us how easy it is to make a statement without battering the drum, let’s see what happens.
KLV
I have had this post typed up since Saturday evening. Today is an appropriate time to post it.
Admittedly over the last couple of years I have been a bit of a protagonist getting involved in let’s say “banter” that it’s not acceptable on CQN by Paul67’s standards, up to and directly attacking individual’s rather than their views. I today apologise for that.
However, as I discussed with someone close to Paul67 last Saturday before the game, I actively set out some time ago to see just how far the blog had fallen. To see, what depths my postings could plummet to before they were deemed, and this is a horrible phrase used far too frequently on here if you know the history of it, “Beyond The Pale”. Just what has become acceptable “banter” (a very hun like phrase) on CQN.
From the days of Super Sammy and his attempts to undermine the blog trolling as a Hun in a Tim’s clothing, to the accepted & excused casual racism of Kojo, who was very capable of posting some great stuff on Celtic and especially our youth setup, I was saddened to see this place turn from the Dear Green Place it once was to what it is now.
I once moderated for Paul67 for a short while with one or two others. I was not the correct personality for that job and it became apparent quickly that my personal views on other’s posts would override any attempt to judge a post on just its content. Therefore rightly so I didn’t last long as a moderator and that period ended. I don’t believe Paul67 has any moderators now. However after this period I did highlight, via email to Paul67, many posts that I believed broke the rules of his blog until such a time as the numbers of posts being highlighted were becoming more and more frequent and it seemed a pointless exercise. I know of one other blogger who also did this frequently.
So instead after some time, I thought I would test my theory of how far acceptable standards had fallen. I started of lightly with “banter” that just about crossed the line, and then over the weeks took it up a notch or two and little by little a bit further until in the last 6 months or so I have been right up there in your faces. I have used expletives frequently which would never be accepted 3 or 4 years ago unless provided in context within well constructed posts. Even then these were few and far between. I have attacked individuals directly rather than the content of their posts based on previous post without even reading what they have just posted. I have attacked personally individuals rather than the content of their posts without thought for them or fear of how my words may impact them. Most of us are thick skinned but really how are we to know who is on the other end of this virtual bar.
Sadly not once have I had an email from Paul67 with a single complaint about some of my post. Not one single blogger took enough offence at a single post I have made, especially so in the last 6 months to take the time to email Paul67. I can count on one hand the number of times a blogger has posted that I have taken things too far. Only TBB, JJ, and one other that I noted felt strongly enough at my direct attack on Tony Donnelly with regards turning his use of the phrase “Grooming of kids” as a direct attack on his personality and that I feared for any children being in his company. Not one individual emailed Paul67 to complain. No matter what I think of Tony and his particular use of that phrase, I do not particularly like him as a blogger nor do I believe I’d like him much in real life, that particular post of mine was and is unacceptable by anyone’s standards never mind CQN’s. But for me it highlights how far this Dear Green Place has fallen.
I unreservedly apologise to you Tony Donnelly for that post. I don’t expect you to accept my apology as is your right. But it is offered in good faith.
I accept that at times my posts have come across as bullying. This may well be true in that I was attacking individuals inappropriately using inappropriate references, language and manner. However I don’t accept that posters who take offence and call out others who frequently post inappropriately material, who Troll, are Huns in a Tims clothing, engage in casual racism, use language that is inappropriate, flower attacks on individuals or groups within acceptable language etc. should be called out as bullies or cliques. This happens far too much on here. Posters should call out every single post that is inappropriate without fear of being labelled a bully. Funnily enough, as I see it, it is always the same group of posters who view those calling out inappropriate posts and posters, as bullies. It says a lot for these individuals.
Anyway, back to just posting, scrolling and occasional lurking for me now.
Please note:- Unless specifically stated all my posts from this point on are just opinions and where they are fact based I will state this. I also refuse to use Wikipedia but if ever I do so I will not copy & paste the sections of references that suit my agenda, I wll copy & paste the full reference. Just so yeez ken.
Hail! Hail!
MWD
AuroraBorealis79 on 2nd September 2016 12:31 pm
Spooky
I tell you…it is indeed despicable, that a Celtic board will uphold the ‘Big Lie’ and support the Hun agenda, so that they can pretend that the ‘new club’ is Rangers, so they can charge their own supporters £50.
That my friends….is rotten to the core.
What kind of people are they?
Are they Celtic supporters…Really.
If the PLC are prepared to lie to their own supporters, what good are they?
They obviously dont have the best interests of Celtic supporters at heart, not if they are prepared to back the Huns.
When are we going to stand up together against the Hun agenda?
When?
HH
BRTH – I was in the Vatican last week and visited the memorial to Bonnie Prince Charlie and the other Stuarts, exactly where you said it was located. I didn’t get to smack the angel’s posterior though, as they had one of those VIP rope thingys stopping you getting up close – I wonder why that was?
Paul67
What’s this? , a mere website update issue nobody existed before 2014 on Aberdeen’s
software.
Sadly, I think if Celtic were going to expose the ‘big lie’ then we’d know by now, however there hasn’t been a game at Celtic Park involving rANGERs.
I think Celtic we’ll ignore ‘the big lie’, ‘for business reasons’ therefore here’s my tuppence worth
for the Celtic board
Hail Hail
Paul,
Celtic should have given the new club the same ticket allocation
as Aberdeen, Hearts and our European opponents get ..
To continue with the same allocation is complete and utter
stupidity, and a real opportunity missed by Celtic ..
It’s was the one decision that the PLC really needed to make ..
Its ok bumping your gums, but action is required.
I was offered a ticket for sevco game…I refused it.
So…lets see the courage of your convictions….boycott the liars, cheats, and bigots.
Or are you buying the lie as well?
My conscience is clear.
Im not upholding Hun lies.
HH
PHYLLIS DIETRICHSON on 2ND SEPTEMBER 2016 12:38 PM
Phyllis
I was there myself a few weeks ago and the rope thing was there.
I ignored it completely and smacked the angel on the arse as custom demands.
Immediately across from the monument ( above where the lift from the dome comes out ) you will find the monument to Maria Clementia Sobieska – wife to James Stuart and mother of Bonnie Price Charlie making the Stuarts the only “Royal” Family to be buried and honoured in St Peter’s.
However, on my next trip to Rome I am boycotting all of the major attractions in favour of some lesser known hidden gems. Though I prefer Tuscany to be honest.
BROGAN ROGAN TREVINO AND HOGAN SUPPORTS OSCAR KNOX, MACKENZIE FURNISS AND ANYONE ELSE WHO FIGHTS NEUROBLASTOMA on 2ND SEPTEMBER 2016 12:29 PM
Brilliant post ~ as usual if I may add. Your final sentence was prescient.
“If we can’t run and supervise football properly in Scotland (both on the pitch and off it) why should UEFA continue to have us come under their umbrella at all?”
Therein lies the rub?
HH
https://twitter.com/celticbible/status/771452108147163140
This is good
celtic1member1vote,
That was definitely the wrong decision.
They know Society, not CQN society, a lot better than anyone is willing to give them credit for.
I hope we rip them to shreds on the 10th. H1Z1 Kings of the Hill.
The least game I ever played was H1Z1, yeah great choice Aidan!!!!!
:D
Scanned the rags in Morrisons,Level 5 trying to put pressure on Aberdeen , saying it’s a computer glitch on their website
If you are not prepared to make a stand against the hun lies.
Quit whining about it.
Solidarity my arse.
The ‘Me, Me, Me’ generation indeed.
People would rather put their own desire to watch a stone cold lie for £50, before a bit of solidarity with other Celtic supporters.
That is the problem right there.
You allow the Celtic PLC to support the Hun agenda, and thats exactly what they will do.
Say nothing….the cheating and corruption will continue.
HH
It takes a really messed up individual to get WATP as a hairdo – just how insecure is that guy? @ BBs twitter link further downtown.
This unfortunate week goes back to the leak of information and addresses, in my view and the assumption posted by ‘others’ that Kill Ultra was in some way connected to an individual from Level 5 who had apparently been banned from Twitter.
PJ55 in an attempt to validate Kill Ultra mailed me. I was concerned by some of the mail’s contents, given the doubts about KU. I was asked not to share the mail here. I don’t know PJ55, he had mailed the dublin2016 address before. Unfortunately being in the public domain that address has been subject to trolling.
I corresponded privately with WC’s earlier in the week and I was relieved to read that another regular poster was able to clear up any uncertainty regarding PJ55.
I was happy to apologise to PJ55 for any anxiety caused on my part and commend him for his efforts to support his friend.
It’s been positive to see BRTH and Kill Ultra engaging in a positive manner today. It’s also a little troubling if Kill Ultra’s identity might have been known and not verified by a poster. If that’s case that was a bad call especially in the context of KU’s commitment to the Celtic family.
Duty Calls
Just getting to page 2 as I enjoyed page 1 so much I read it again.
No oxygen supply to their stinkin’ lie.
YNRA.
I’ve no agenda against the board. I often see the board portrayed as ‘the man’ in many posters’ views – as is their privilege – but I’d be shocked to bits if they remotely ruffle the feathers of that putrid mob. Will come back on here gladly, put my hands up and say they proved me wrong if it happens.
No chance
In my opinion, any comment from Celtic now on the “new club” would be pathetic given the ticket allocation the “new club” has received and the price charged for said tickets.
Why would the price for “new club” tickets be around double of that you would expect to pay against the likes of Aberdeen.
There have been many opportunities for Celtic in the past to make it clear that the continuation myth is exactly that, a myth but they chose the route of avoiding the issue.
The old firm nonsense is alive and well in the boardroom at Celtic Park but as a 20+ years season ticket holder they can count me out on sept 10th.
I hope they choke on the blue pound.
THECLUMPANY on 2ND SEPTEMBER 2016 12:15 PM
Celtic absolutely MUST get their handling of the Sevco league game correct. No excuses for failing to do so. Giving legitimacy to something which pretends to be an entity which cheated the club, its fans and its shareholders would be outrageous.
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Mate, you fine well know our club will do nothing but MILK the occasion for every blue farthing it can get.
Well done Paul67
“Aberdeen have nailed their proverbial flag to the mast this week with the word, “No previous meeting found” on their fixture list comment on a forthcoming game against Newco. It’s a simple comment, it’s accurate, has been confirmed in writing by Uefa and will position the club shoulder-to-shoulder with their fans.
Get it right Celtic”
After all the hours and millions of words on this subject it all boils down to one message.
The more I consider what I would accept as a final word from Celtic, in terms of their stance on the issue. It Is this:
Website and match programme iclude a short description of their recent journey through the lower leagues…
‘We would like to extend a warm welcome to the Ibrox club on their first visit to Celtic Park. May the best team win’
For me that one line settles the debate once and for all and helps me to move on.
Any subsequent actions resulting from the forthcoming Supreme Court ruling and any stripping of historic titles all sit with courts and SFA. Not for Celtic to even so much as comment on.
So, Get it right Celtic
Well done Dons
Hertz and Hibs can continue with same, and the message is delivered cleanly and without unecessary fuss!
Cue an urgent recall of programme print runCSC
I was curious as to how the beeb were going to handle the death of rangers in their Scotlands Game programme. They did acknowledge the liquidation but then went on to say that the outcome was that ‘rangers’ were placed in Scotland’s lowest division. Charles Green buying the assets and starting again as a newco was very neatly side stepped, not even a mention. Once again, the beeb have got clean away with distorting the truth about deidco.
I went round the Celtic Park tour with family and visitors last Thursday and at the end of the showing of the club video, narrated by Kris Commons, we were invited to take away a match programme for the recent Betfred Cup-tie against Motherwell as a souvenir of the day.
Knowing there’d be interest in Celtic’s disclosures about Sevco next week, I’ve looked at what we said about Motherwell last month.
Six pages dedicated to them; a brief summary of games to date this season, a full list of 2016/2017 league fixtures then 4 pages of player pen-portraits ending with a current squad list. No honours list.
There are a further two pages describing some of the 17 league cup-ties between the two clubs in past years.
If this example is typical of the current season’s match programmes, then my guess is we’ve prepared a side-step in advance hoping to minimise controversy. Time will tell how that works.
Listen, why dont you all refuse to give the £50 bigot con any credence whatsoever, by boycotting one solitary game ffs.
Put up or shut up.
I refuse point blank to pay to watch a fecking lie, and an insult to Celtic fans.
The PLC can stick their £50 bigot con, where the sun dont shine.
Its about time you all grew a set ffs
The sound of silence eh.
So…who is going to reject this despicable lie, by refusing to have anything whatsoever to do with it?
Lets hear you.
Bada
CQN mag article saying Aberdeen will not be apologising to The “Rangers”.
MOONBEAMS at 12.35 – glad to read that the old MWD is back. Can’t really decide whether what you did recently was for the best but, after all, it’s only a blog.
More generally, I’m still having a raging debate with my own conscience on whether or not to attend the game on September 10th. Like BSR I think that if our custodians were going to have done anything (yes, anything!) to distance themeselves even 1mm from the same club argument they would have done so before now. Charging a higher price than all otehr league games along with an increased away allocation did nothing at ll to reassure me on that.
Something on these lines from Celtic below —– would provide the clarification of UEFA rules (that have been in place prior to 2012).
UEFA have dropped the SFA (and depending on their response, Celtic) right in it.
However I expect that nothing will be said for fear of a reaction the blame for which will be pinned on Celtic by the very media whose livelihood depends on propagating the Big Lie. The underlying narrative is that thugs, aided and abetted by a fearful media, are running Scottish football.
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How UEFA Interpret Their Rules (explanations in Square Brackets) based on Traverso.
How UEFA Interpret Their Rules (explanations in Square Brackets)
” To sum up, as a consequence of decisions taken in 2012 as well as the administration of the club and the events/measures that followed (including the NEW club/company [that means TRFC/RIFC] being ineligible to apply for a licence to participate in UEFA competitions for three seasons [because the new club/company did not have an SFA Membership in 2012 that was older than three years ] there is clearly no need for UEFA to investigate this matter any further since the club [this time that means RFC] was not granted a licence to participate in the 2012/13 UEFA club competitions [because they had an overdue payable and no ratified accounts], the new club/company [back to TRFC/RIFC again] entered the fourth tier of Scottish Football and it was not able to play in UEFA competitions for the next three years in any event” [because it was not in in the top tier of the SPFL until 2016]
The separation of Club A (RFC) and Club B TRFC/RIFC (which has a club/company construct and is new to UEFA) is as clear as day. It is based on Article 12 of UEFA FFP whose purpose is to stop a club or a club/company trying to ditch debt that enabled UEFA competition qualification, from participating in UEFA competitions.
An investigation into the charade BRTH describes earlier would ask why SFA Articles lack an UEFA FFP Article 12 equivalent. The problems it would have avoided.
I will ask again.
Who, like me, is going to reject the ‘Big Hun Lie’?
Who is refusing to have anything whatsoever to do withe the £50 bigot con?
Come on.
Jobo
Agreed. The £50 ticket sale says it all.
Like you, having paid my season book price I am currently fighting with myself deciding whether or not to attend. Attend and I absolve the PLC and their acceptance, but I suppose I have done that by buuying my season book. don’t attend, who will notice and money is in Peter’s bonus.
Unlike my non attendance of Zionist game recently. they received none of my cash for that, albeit it was a UEFA draw and not celtic PLC fault.
It’s a funy old game this principle stuff.
MWD
The Green Man,
The Huns have to pay £50.
There isn’t a general sale. The concessions are ridiculously priced – mos def. Costlier than CL games? :((
It will be interesting to see who attends the game in 415, lots of youngsters, vocal as well. Brilliant so it is to see.
It’s our….
Pass Craigy Whyte over the Directors Box again on the 10th?
Incendiary.
TGM
You should maybe add that you already know from some posters’ consistent offerings on here what they ‘ll do or not do on the day, and what their attitude to the Big Lie is.
Brogan Rogan Trevino and Hogan supports Oscar Knox, MacKenzie Furniss and anyone else who fights Neuroblastoma on 2nd September 2016 12:29 pm
BRTH, brilliant post!
Paul67, winning captains, tj=his should be put up under Football Matters so it doesn’t get lost in the blog!
KTF
Petec
Why would Celtic PLC shaft their own supporters, by pretending that the ‘new club’ is Rangers?
What is that all about?
Can you trust people like that, people who will sell out their own supporters to the Huns?
No…There is no two ways about it, the Celtic PLC are supporting the ‘Big Hun Lie’, for money.
Quite prepared to lie through their teeth and shaft their own supporters at the same time.
Still love you though:)
HH
Afternoon fholks.
Have we signed Bernd Schuster yet? ;))
Petec
Concessions not uptaken by the those who are not obliged to purchase those tickets will be sold for £50 or £49 plus tickemaster overcharges. that is the whole point in over pricing the concessionary tickets. So that those who hold them believe they are being asked too much and the old Firmist with a want only to see their Rangers can come out and pretend to cheer on Celtic.
The club loves these guys.
MWD