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Mike’s Newcastle incentivised for Hearts

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On Saturday morning I opined that Hearts were a busted flush. They’d shipped 10 goals in their previous four games, failing to win any (against Hamilton, St Johnstone, Inverness and Kilmarnock). They were certainly not a team I expected to see sitting second to us this morning.

All of a sudden there’s talk of the manager leaving and players look like they are fighting to impress.

You know how this is going to turn out? Hearts, who are chasing second in the league, are after Newcastle’s assistant. Newcastle’s owner isn’t likely to be hard to deal with. If Ian Cathro gets the job, you can expect to see Newcastle’s player surplus heading north in January. And unlike the five who left Newcastle for Glasgow two years ago, Cathro will know and select each one.

Which is good, as it might give us some competition in the second half of the season. As for those gambling the family aluminium that qualification for the Europa League next season will bring in a necessary £7m?

They may eventually conclude that having one of Europe’s richest men inside the tent is a whole lot better than making an enemy of him. Just a thought.

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  1. Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_Noo on

    Auldheid,

     

     

    do you think that our PLC´s recent interest in Resolution 12 is due to Sevco´s possible European qualification ?

     

     

    Timing is everything … or is it a coincidence ?

     

     

    HH

  2. Auldheid-Contrast STV’s continued protection of the Govan team,and Lamont from Shortbread sticking us into UEFA for a banner…………allegedly……

  3. I’m not convinced Ashley would be particularly bothered about Hearts. In terms of him being inside the tent, there would not be enough room for him and King so King would need to exit stage left. Some of the other Directors might like the idea but it would be nigh on impossible to sell it to the peepul.

  4. !!Bada Bing!! (from previous)

     

     

     I really shouldn’t have bothered pointing that out.

     

     

     

     It’ll be in the match programme anyway!

  5. THETIMREAPER on 1ST DECEMBER 2016 11:15 AM

     

    I’m not convinced Ashley would be particularly bothered about Hearts. In terms of him being inside the tent, there would not be enough room for him and King so King would need to exit stage left. Some of the other Directors might like the idea but it would be nigh on impossible to sell it to the peepul.

     

     

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    I agree, I don’t think Ashley will take too much of an interest in the assistant manager moving to Hearts.

     

     

    Newcastle might send Hearts some players as they would trust Cathro to develop them. Not sure how good they would be as they already have 12 players out on loan.

  6. Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_Noo on

    I love the SMSM to be honest. I view it as you all know in the same manner I view waterford whispers and mashup co uk. A source of amusement

     

     

    Have you noticed that the Daily record does the 3 things we learned articles but the high brow Scotsman gives you 5 things we learned.

     

     

     

     

    HH

  7. PRAECEPTA@ 11 17 .

     

     

    The relevant authorities claim that the statistics for this season show 2 trends — Serie A games are becoming less violent and that the Ultra related violence surrounding Serie B fixtures is significantly increasing .

  8. SP-St Johnstone are a harder team to break down than Aberdeen IMO,even though they have better players,down to the manager ……..

  9. Aw Naw

     

     

    It’s just the consequence of the hard work everyone put in on Res12 reflected in the Account to Shareholders which was then made available to others on CQN.

     

     

    However the need for a trustworthy SFA has become more stark and their latest attempt using STV to allay fears exclusion of TRFC from Europe unlikely ( if TRFC/RIFC ever get their feet in the door) is what you might call serendipity making an appearance.

     

     

    As a supporter/ share holder in any club I would be asking

     

    “exactly on what basis was a licence granted to RFC in 2011 and then retained at the monitoring points?”

     

     

    Then

     

    “are you satisfied the process was properly carried out and can you satisfy the club’s that it was?”

     

     

    ” If you are not satisfied what steps have you taken to avoid a repeat not just on overdue payable but that no chicanery can take place to circumvent not just the letter of break even rules but the spirit that UEFA intend those rules to protect ? “

  10. Whoopee –

     

     

    Work related chores completed .

     

     

    Off to London tomorrow for a long weekend which includes West Ham v Arsenal . Then an early morning drive from London to Manchester on Tuesday .Back to London on Wednesday , back to Sicily Thursday . .The retired life is a fine thing.

  11. SOUTH OF TUNIS on 1ST DECEMBER 2016 11:38 AM

     

    I believe Tobias Jones (author of the article) has written an insightful book on Italian football – might search out some reviews to see if it’s worth purchasing.

  12. The Hearts front two Johnsen? and Doum? were a handful for Motherwell at the weekend and again last night.

     

     

    The latter was excellent at keeping hold of the ball and the former has good touch and movement.

     

     

    Now if we got a really good offer for Dembele who has a lot to learn I’d be checking the background of those two guys.

  13. Once again Newsnow full of Dembele to Liverpool stories.They are going to give us 10 million and maybe another with add ons.How very generous of them.Will we have to bow the knee and doff our caps as they leave Celtic Park with our latest sensation.Its not as if the boy does not know the wages he will command if he does move.His continuing refusal to consider a move anywhere seems to have driven his price down.

     

    I know we should ignore the stories,but it really does begin to grate on the nerves.Mine anyway.The thing is,even if the boy goes nowhere in January,we will get the same right through to the summer.

  14. AULDHEID:

     

     

    UEFA have power, guile, presence, lawyers, might, numbers, class (sic), integrity (sic), imagination (sic),muscle, bureaucracy, offices, expense accounts, rules and regulations, hit men…

     

     

    The SFA have Sandy Bryson.

     

     

    Game over.

  15. AULDHEID,

     

     

    The boy Johnsen,first time I have seen him,looks a Celtic type player.Fast and skillful.Worth a watch until the summer.

  16. To be honest, I really liked the sound of that Canadian lad we were looking at. I reckon we are probably looking at signing him in the summer or a year from now.

     

     

    TurkeyBhoy

     

     

    They stories do annoy me too. They seem to ignore the fact that he has 3 and a half years left on his current deal. Celtic have no need to sell him right now and he will retain his value until summer 2018.

     

     

    The only way we would sell is if we got something CRAZY offered to us. I don’t think 20 million is crazy enough for us to sell. Try 40.

     

     

    I know Rangers fans have been taking the piss with our valuations at 40 but that’s what he’s worth to us. Why sell him and risk our CL qualification next summer?

  17. Just caught the result from Damien’s XI v Vader’s XI last night.

     

     

    Belated LOL @ the Hun Monkeys.

  18. G67- £49 a ticket……….I hope we take money for damage to the toilets before giving them any cash.

  19. Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_Noo on

    Auldheid,

     

     

    my point being that the PLC chucked Res. 12 into the long grass until it became convenient – opportune for them to address it

     

     

    For the record using Res 12 to inhibit Sevco getting an SFA favour for a possible license for next season and then doing nothing about the Murray years is not on. In fact if that is their “beads to the Indians” tact then it is as good as an admission of permanent Old Firm guilt – and that – and I chose my words carefully here – up to their knees in fenian blood

     

     

    Let see how they approach it

     

     

    You know what my money is on :-)

     

     

    HH

  20. PRAECEPTA .

     

     

    Tobias Jones — I read his — Dark Heart of Italy — essays re politics , culture , football etc . I thought it was good .

     

     

    Went to a Palermo game recently — wee group of guys in front of me spent 2 hrs chainsmoking Albanian skunk and spooning cocaine up their noses every 15 minutes… they spent the game hurling abuse at the Palermo players , the Manager and the owner of Palermo FC:

  21. VFR800

     

     

    Thanks for linking to the CQN Mag article.

     

     

    On reading it again I know what I didn’t like.

     

     

    It was saying the memberships were transferred to a new company. Prolonging the myth that a club and company are two separate entities that can apply as separate entities for a UEFA licence.

     

     

    In fact in the UEFA context the memberships were transfered to a NEW “club/company” which is now the visible construct of the entity playing football at Ibrox. Hence my use now of TRFC/RIFC to make the point that “club/company” are conjoined twins and the relevant part of UEFA’s view is that they are NEW regardless of the construct they apply for a licence under.

     

     

    This perspective is enshrined in Art 12 of UEFA FFP which is designed to deter clubs or club/companies from dumping debt and carrying on in Europe the seasons right after they went bust.

     

     

    When RFC existed I’d be amazed if it was MIH who applied for a UEFA licence and not RFC because the MIH were not seen as a football club nor is their any evidence of a contractual relationship between MIH and RFC.

     

     

    It’s just made up tripe for commercial reasons that treats supporters of other clubs as idiots or should that be Bampots.

     

     

    New is New. It’s not the same as before anymore than my old car is my new car.

     

     

    Boring warning. (Assuming foregoing is not) I’m going to post Art12 which sets out the hierarchy within which UEFA treat applicants and defines the form a club can take.

  22. VFR800 is now a Monster 821 on

    Auldheid on 1st December 2016 12:12 pm

     

     

    I know it’s a wee bit of semantics; however, it is the member club who apply for and are granted the licence, not the company (AFAIK).

     

     

    Therefore the lack of continuity of membership being highlighted is a clear admission (IMHO) that it is a new club. We should use this, rinse and repeat ad nauseum until it is completely out there for all to see.

     

     

    Apparently STV Grant wisnae happy about it on Twitter last night!

     

     

     

    KTF

  23. CELTIC CHAMPS ELECT on 1ST DECEMBER 2016 12:12 PM

     

    Oh to be a Palermo supporter:-))

     

     

    Must be to make the pink strip a wee bit more acceptable…………hold on……!!!!

  24. One for South of Tunis (or any other Italy based posters)

     

     

    Hi there.

     

    How do you think the vote in Italy on Sunday will go?

     

    I understand the system in Italy has some form of poll prediction blackout in the lead up to an election or referendum but wondered what the talk on the street was.

     

    Interested in the potential impact of exchange rates from GBP to Euro.

     

    Thanks

     

     

    ps the biblical rain you experienced a few days ago has now appeared in my part of the med and is much needed