Mikey, Moh and converting talent

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I could not make sense of why we signed Mohamed Elyounoussi on loan from Southampton in the last days of the 2019 summer transfer window.  He played in Mikey Johnston’s position, a prospect I had great hopes for.  Just days later, Mikey was a star at Ibrox, winning possession (albeit without much difficulty) and setting up Odsonne Edouard for the opening goal.

Mohamed proved to be an important part of yet another treble in our second nine-in-a-row season, whereas the Celtic coaches saw gaps in Mikey’s play I had missed.

It has been five years since Mikey made his debut, so long, perhaps, that we have lost sight of the fact he is only 23 and missed much of the intervening period through injury.  Jota we more readily think of as young, although the Portuguese is three weeks older.

I’m not prepared to write Mikey off.  He has an ability to switch left-to-right and back better than anyone else in the squad at the moment (including Jota).  His battles with form and end product have been common among wingers for decades and are not fatal to a successful career.

With three years left on his contract, he needs regular football and encouragement.  Celtic have to learn how to convert this level of natural talent into a successful career, even if it means sending them out for a period.

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  1. bournesouprecipe on

    They used to call it ‘farmed out’ didn’t do any harm whilst retaining potential for Celtic.

     

     

    Don’t understand why supporters feel the need to ‘get rid ‘ when the coaching and management don’t?

  2. celticforever on

    Corkcelt

     

     

    100% agree with you regarding the troll

     

     

    Plus he has been giving several crude nicknames to several

     

    posters which should never happen tim to tim

  3. The Battered Bunnet on

    I reckon with Mikey it’s all in his head. That’s where to focus attention if you want a top player to emerge.

  4. Petec,

     

     

    Nobody more disappointed than me in the Mikey situation. Love watching him and his dancing feet but Angeball is not individual brillance alone but team systems, discipline, game intelligence and bravery amongst many things. Maybe the loan will unlock it but hanging around with inferior players in the SPFL (if Hibs is the destination) and inferior coaches does not make a Celtic player. IMHO.

     

     

    Some you win. Some you lose.

     

     

    HH

  5. RT @ 1.13

     

     

    Very simplistic outlook — those with the levers get the spoils.

     

    Skilled vs general unions throughout the ages — I have been there and saw it in action.

     

    Divide and conquer — drivers vs warehouse staff — not pretty.

     

    Solidarity disappears when egos are stroked / cash put on the table.

     

     

    Pay and conditions in the railways are at there highest ever levels.

     

    Last 25 years growth in wages — Privatisation vs public sector investment — Discuss.

     

    The railways have been very lucky and have played the situation well.

     

    However they rely on public subsidy and their pay levels / pay increases have an opportunity cost which affects the rest of society.

     

     

    Plus you have the situation locally that in the recent past only certain people got the jobs that got you into certain unions — unions need careful and comprehensive oversight as when push come to shove they like any other group are in it for themselves not society as a whole.

     

     

    Progressive politics brought us “In place of strife”

     

    Progressive failure brought us Maggie and her form of divide and conquer.

     

    Butcher the general unions and placate the skilled.

     

     

    The focus should be on the profits push price inflation — business is at it.

     

    We don’t play the game very well — dancing to a subtle Tory / Establishment tune.

  6. big wavy,

     

     

    Yer comments are always good,

     

     

    Like you, I hope Mikey comes to the Tony Yeboah.

     

     

    He needs to dae it this Season. He has competition for places Scooby scooby doo. Thats the way it Must be at a Club like the phenomenal Glasgow Celtic.

  7. BSR 1.26

     

     

    So true in the age of “instant” decisions.

     

    The nonchalance the way a career is jettisoned.

     

    Straight from fifa! No patience,no time given just get rid.

     

     

    TBB.

     

    I reckon too.

     

    afraid to bulkup/carry more weight for fear of loosing his touch/daftness ??

     

     

    Wish it could be corrected for mikeys and our benefit I just want him to be a success.

     

     

    HH

  8. bournesouprecipe on

    McGregor Christie Ajer Ralston all 1st team loaned out, to name a few and returned better

  9. RT @ 1.13

     

     

    Second last paragraph — undemocratic shit* / playground level gangsterism.

     

     

    Who / What is a worker in your worldview?

     

    What about those who fall outside your categories?

     

    How do they fit it — a worker’s wife / a worker’s wean?

     

     

    Sub Militant level tripe.

     

    Anarcho-syndicalism — the choice of Mammy’s boys throughout the ages.

     

    They demand / believe in utopia because they have had so much done for them

  10. In every squad you have talented players who just can’t break through & get regular first team Football.

     

     

    This is part of the Manager’s remit. How do you deal with it.

     

     

    The Manager has a call to make, if he decides that the player is never likely to cut it at the Club he can ease him out,

     

     

    However if a player is good enough to attract interest from other Clubs then the obvious thing is to loan him out,

     

     

    If you loan him to another SPL Club, you have the advantage he can’t play against Celtic but he will sure be fired up to play against the Hun.

     

     

    You have an immediate saving in wages, if player does poorly then he has no future at Celtic & you have run down a year of his contract,

     

     

    If he does well you can either bring him back & play him, like we did with CalMac, if he is good but not good enough for Celtic he will be very saleable and bring in a bit of cash to Club,

  11. celticforever on

    I remember Mikey scored both goals v Hearts on the end

     

    of season game where Karamoko made his first team debut

     

     

    Also saw him miss a sitter v huns in big Fosters League Cup

     

    Final which would have made it 2-0 and us on easy street

     

     

    Mikey does a few good things but its time to bring consistency

     

    to his game or he will be moved on

  12. In the not too distant past, maybe a couple of seasons back, if my memory server serves me well, and possibly in response to a post from Petec I predicted that Mikey J would be the next David Silva……

     

    I might have been a wee bit over optimistic there…..

  13. There are only 2 options here:

     

     

    1. Sell Mikey Johnson asap – but we wouldn’t get much for him despite him having 3 years left on his contract

     

    2. Loan him out -The most likely to happen.

     

     

    He needs game time for the sake of his own career and development. I don’t buy blaming the coaching staff for his “failure”. He is too injury prone and doesn’t play enough and when he does play he is too rusty and never really contributes enough. I don’t think the intensity of Ange’s training suits him. He has talent everyone says but no one ever says he is a well-rounded player. He can beat a man and that is a great skill to have but unless you can do a whole lot more I don’t see a future in Ange’s setup.

     

     

    I believe it’s in his own interest to leave Celtic and go somewhere with fewer expectations. I’d love to see him tie up with RD in Belgium maybe initially on loan with an option to buy.

  14. bournesouprecipe on

    Aircon alone wont save you, from the Mozzies in the wetlands

     

     

    BittenToBits CSC

  15. Not sure Tony Ralston’s loan moves improved him. Ange and a bit of growing up seem to be attributed to that. Memory serves me both St Johnston and DUFC couldn;t wait to see the back of him.

     

     

    As mentioned, loaning out a bit of low risk, high reward for the youngsters.

     

     

    Now, any sign of Ajeti being snapped up ? I think he, Julien and Shaw are the last of the getaways.

     

     

    HH

  16. big wavy,

     

     

    Anthony has said that becoming a Dad was a big part in him being as good as he is @ the moment.

     

     

    It’s a pity he has a World Class fullback playing in his natural position.

  17. I’m not sure MJ has a good footballing brain – loadsa skills but doesn’t know when to use them

  18. MADMITCH on 28TH JULY 2022 1:35 PM

     

     

    RT @ 1.13

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

    Very simplistic outlook — those with the levers get the spoils.

     

     

    ———-

     

     

    Thanks for the reminder as to why I don’t waste so much of my time posting about politics on here. Simplistic? Hmmm. Simple. Maybe. If you don’t recognise where that is coming from, which you appear not to, I’d wonder how much you actually know or understand. I could expand on the theory behind it but really, I took a decision some years ago to take such arguments to the actual and not virtual world. It is always much more productive in my experience. Apart from that time philvis joined the Communist Party of Great Britain after I bested him in a debate and he hasn’t been seen on cqn since, dedicated as he now is to street agitation and the spread of Marxist theory to the people of picturesque villages across the UK. At least that is how I remember it.

     

     

    So I’ll go back to my ill informed football comments and leave you to it.

  19. Now for the important questions — Cheese on toast vs …

     

    Back tomorrow to pick up the bodies.

     

     

    Cheery.

  20. Guys like mikey J should never give up hope.

     

     

    I’m 50 years old now and still harbour some hope of playing a sweeper role for celtic just for half a season.

     

     

    Is this normal?

  21. If Mike Lynch started a political party, 2/3 rds., of Labour Party members would join, and most of the population of Scotland :)) me included, por cierto

  22. RT @ before I go

     

     

    What you have put forward is just slogans / sloganeering — to me anyway.

     

     

    If your politics has a badge — then please share / don’t be shy.

     

    If you are from Socialist Vanguard then I will have succeeded 30 years after my Tax Office conversations.

     

     

    If your politics is home brewed then please detail your main drivers.

     

    Your initial thoughts came over as very scripted / lumpy.

     

    However happy to hear your thoughts in detail.

     

    I might even agree with some of them.

     

    However I am too old for utopia.

     

    In 1968 the Left lost.

     

     

    Happy to discuss at the next CQN soiree.

     

    Failing that tomorrow ….

  23. From previous blog

     

     

    FESS19 on 28TH JULY 2022 12:57 PM

     

     

    SCULLYBHOY on 27TH JULY 2022 3:52 PM

     

     

    “Scotland is part of an island

     

     

    In my opinion,WRONG

     

     

    Scotland is a “Penisula” with a boil stuck to its arse

  24. Hello all.

     

     

    Does the blog mind if I pick up an argument with Ernie, feel free to scroll on buy.

  25. SAINT STIVS on 28TH JULY 2022 2:19 PM

     

    “Hello all.

     

    Does the blog mind if I pick up an argument with Ernie, feel free to scroll on buy.”

     

     

    With the man who drove the fastest milk cart in the west? por cierto

  26. ERNIE LYNCH on 28TH JULY 2022 8:46 AM

     

    SETTING FREE THE BEARS FOR RES. 12 & OSCAR KNOX on 28TH JULY 2022 12:04 AM

     

     

     

     

    St Stivs

     

     

    ‘At the risk of intruding into a private guessing game….’

     

     

     

     

     

     

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    I was being charitable and trying to point him in the right direction to stop him making too much of a fool of himself. I shouldn’t have bothered.

     

     

     

     

     

     

    He’s just projecting his own fixed, ignorant views (Scotland victim. Scotland good. England bad. England oppressor) on a complex and nuanced historical process.

     

     

     

    It’s a sad indictment on the current state of Scottish politics and the Scottish education system.

     

     

     

     

     

     

    And to drag this topic back to where it started the difference between Scotland and Ireland is that Scotland is not an oppressed nation and the Scots are not a people oppressed on account of their nationality.

     

     

     

     

     

     

    That doesn’t sit well with the cult, hence their need to indulge in ahistorical fantasy.

     

     

     

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    Maybe I just made this up then , by the way what I vote today in any election at anytime is not influenced by any historical events. I am not in a cult, I read history as a hobby.

     

     

    Large parts of the country were oppressed. Occupied, Taken over. Innocent people killed, ran off the land, deported.

     

     

    You argument was the Scottish nation was not oppresed, (just the jacobite/catholic/highlander) ergo not all of Ireland was opporsed it was just the catholic/gaelic parts.

     

     

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    The Act of Proscription (19 Geo. 2, c. 39), also called the Act of Proscription 1746,[1] was an Act of the Parliament of Great Britain, which came into effect in Scotland on 1 August 1746. It was part of a series of efforts to assimilate the Scottish Highlands, ending their ability to revolt, and the first of the “King’s laws” that sought to crush the Clan system in the aftermath of the Jacobite rising of 1745. These laws were finally repealed on 1 July 1782.[2]

     

     

    Background

     

    The British forces under the Duke of Cumberland had been brutal in putting down any hint of Jacobite resistance among Highlanders, and the Act can be seen as Parliament asserting the supremacy of the Civil Courts over unconstitutional military coercion.[citation needed]

     

     

    Penalties

     

    It was mainly a restatement of the earlier Disarming Act, but with more severe punishments which this time were rigorously enforced. Punishments started with fines, with jail until payment and possible forced conscription for late payment. Repeat offenders were “liable to be transported to any of his Majesty’s plantations beyond the seas, there to remain for the space of seven years”, effectively indentured servitude.

     

     

    The penalties for wearing “highland clothing” as stated in the Dress Act 1746 were “imprisonment, without bail, during the space of six months, and no longer; and being convicted for a second offence before a court of justiciary or at the circuits, shall be liable to be transported…” No lesser penalties were allowed for.[3]

     

     

    Geographical Coverage

     

    The elements of the act relating to the proscription of arms applied to the Highlands of Scotland, i.e. the counties of Dunbarton, on the north side of the water of Leven, Stirling on the north side of the river of Forth, Perth, Kincardine, Aberdeen, Inverness, Nairn, Cromarty, Argyll, Forfar, Banff, Sutherland, Caithness, Elgin and Ross.[3]

     

     

    The Dress Act applied to the whole of Scotland.[3]

     

     

    Comment

     

    Dr. Samuel Johnson commented that “the last law by which the Highlanders are deprived of their arms, has operated with efficacy beyond expectations … the arms were collected with such rigour, that every house was despoiled of its defence”. They were also, of course, despoiled of the ability to hunt which, their cattle having been seized, meant starvation for many.

  27. SAINT STIVS on 28TH JULY 2022 2:19 PM

     

    Hello all.

     

     

    Does the blog mind if I pick up an argument with Ernie, feel free to scroll on buy.

     

     

    OK by me as long as the Supercilious Richard Head does not get involved.

     

     

    Just spent 5-1/2 hrs in an airline office only to be told

     

    ” its the other airline who will issue your ticket” 2 flights with them 1 with other airline. Getting p***d now

  28. MADMITCH on 28TH JULY 2022 12:50 PM

     

    We have not offered enough support / coaching to MJ.

     

     

     

     

    He is a huge talent but he has been allowed to develop / mature on his own.

     

     

     

    Has to be the biggest load of Lillian Gish spouted on here.

  29. bournesouprecipe on

    Aye, and Celtic were pilloried by the experts on here when AP extended Tony Ralston’s contract.

     

     

    He’s neck and neck with Juranovic for a game, and he’s wanted for gazillions all over Europe allegedly.

  30. Tom McLaughlin on

    Just been invited along to Spartans v Celtic B on Saturday 3pm ko.

     

     

    Nice surprise and looking forward to it.