A few points about Stewart Milne’s comments this week. Immediately after the Court of Session overturned the earlier rulings on Rangers EBTs, putting the issue of sporting advantage in the spotlight, I noted that it would be the clubs who would decide if this matter would be looked at again, and that if Celtic were unable to gain support from a number of clubs, the issue was dead in the water.
The conversation has been parked until after BDO hear about their application to appeal to the Supreme Court but the issue remains active. Celtic are not alone on this matter, but as you hear from Milne, everyone is not on the same page.
I was a bit surprised Milne spoke openly on the issue but this needed to come out. Just as the SPFL’s decision to act or not is in the hands of the clubs, Aberdeen’s stance on the matter is ultimately in the hands of their supporters. If they care enough about the issue, they must express this view to Milne as clearly as they did in 2012, when they changed his plans on an earlier matter.
Milne’s comments about Scottish football’s position relative to the game in England were among the most futile ever uttered. He is one of the few people in a position to work for change. Aberdeen have more going for them than Swansea – a smaller club based outside England who earn over £100m from Premier League TV rights each season.
No wonder we’re outside the party when one of the men in charge has only just recognised a party exists.
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“especially in Scotland where insiders tell me it’s usual to have to be nice to all things Rangers in order to get on. But even so, he wasn’t afraid to give the current Celtic team a proper kicking after their European exit.”
Agent green,
I couldn’t help but laugh at this part.
HH
Geordie Munro
Not much to do in the valley these days:))
Bada Bing
If you want a winger, sign a full-back!
The demands on Lustig and Izzy/KT are very high, as both defenders and offensive creators.
DAVIDOPOULOS on 18TH DECEMBER 2015 11:00 AM
NatKnow
Crackers! That reminds me I need to do the shopping for Christmas dinner, i’ve been pudding it off for ages.
I lied about no more puns….
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Stopping this right here otherwise no work done today and yule only regret it…! :-)))
Aw bada mate,
That clown is causing me to miss out on the lovely Ms Reid in the mornings as I savour my coffee.:(
HH
T29
The head in the sand bit has everything to do with things, I never mentioned anything about finances, it’s the ignoring the signals was the comparison.
HH
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Weeminger.
I agree that he states opinion as fact, but he sure ain’t the only one.
As for the 5WA, as we were on the spl board at the time it was drawn up, we must have been party to it, to deny that is exactly what I am talking about re head in the sand.
HH
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GM
Possibly, but most on here attack the poster not the message, rather hun like don’t you think ?
HH
If they want to revamp the league fine. Why not follow the guidelines of all previous revamps in that it had to be 1 full season after the season in which it was agreed. That way it’s not helping anybody in the current season.
Davidopolous.
After misbehaving in class, the teacher took away my felt pens for making cards.
My pleas of “Mistletoe the line, honest” went unheeded.
AWE NAW
‘ I didn’t want to see Rangers sent to the lowest tier because it felt as if they were being punished for the behaviour of folk who had no right to be inside that boardroom.’
That’ll be the volk who offered him huge illegal backhanders. Which he was only too eager to accept.
NatKnow
True, we should call it a day there. It’s just that Christmas puns get me all Santamental like…
That will be the same guy who has been interviewed at least 3 times,from those nice people at HMRC ….
BMCUWP
that will be cardihun
HH
beatbhoy
Hahaha. Bravo, sir.
What’s the best Kodi repo, that might have tomorrow’s game? I can’t make it. I’ve got Turks.
Celtic unveil early new January international striker signing
THEEXILEDTIM
I agree with you about NEGANON. Admittedly his opinions are too strong even for me,but he is rarely wide of the mark.
As for regurgitating the same guff for years,as others have put it-I suggest that he has shown the courage of his convictions and stuck to his guns.
Indeed,if he has been repeating the same old guff for eight years,we should be hailing him as a prophet!
Me,I’m not yet in his state of mind about Celtic. I hope I never will be.
Canny guarantee it,mind. Put it this way,I’m hoping I don’t get any razor blades for Christmas!
“Possibly, but most on here attack the poster not the message, rather hun like don’t you think ?”
Tet,
Yup.
But as I say, it’s what he says and the way he says it. Bit like oor Tony. ;)
HH
Celtic should give their under pressure manager one last run at the Champions League group stage, writes Andrew Smith
A CURIOUS conversation developed among the BT Sport commentary team as Celtic eased their way to victory over St Johnstone last weekend.
As a 3-0 win was clocked up from a, supposedly problematic Perth encounter – which brought a 10th successive win following European exertions, extended their lead at the top of the Premiership and ensured a better record across the opening 17 games of a league campaign than in seven of the previous 10 seasons – the discussion between commentary team Chris Sutton and Derek Rae centred on when it would be best to bag Celtic manager Ronny Deila in the coming months.
Now, it is a fact universally accepted that the Norwegian cannot be judged solely on domestic outcomes. Not when the club’s fiscal advantages make the title a shoe-in. Yet, in the rush to damn Deila for admittedly dreadful defensive displays in Europe this season, one question keep recurring: when was it decided, and by whom, that two seasons failing to make the Champions League became a sacking offence for a Celtic manager?
READ MORE – Andrew Smith: Deila bids to avoid new European low
Deila is the first man occupying the Parkhead post in the club’s history to benefit from having no real competition for the top flight. Equally, though, he is the first to be burdened by that fact when it comes to European football’s blue riband tournament. Conclusions as to whether he is considered to have cut it or proved calamitous are made on the basis of six games in the summer. The pressure is in danger of becoming
When Neil Lennon was guaranteed a first title in his second full season following Rangers’ implosion, no-one cast their minds back back and said: ‘Yeah, the league win’s all very well, but in two summers he hasn’t won a single European qualifier on the field of play”.
The Lennon parallel is admittedly imperfect. For the Deila detractors, though, only insomuch as the Irishman’s side showed clear signs of progress on the continental stage when Sion’s ejection provided them with a Europa League place. Undoubtedly, they acquitted themselves well in a section that contained Atletico Madrid, Udinese and Rennes. The performances against these sides did appear to lay the groundwork for the campaign that claimed them a last 16 place the following year.
READ MORE – Andrew Smith: Simunovic risk not worth taking
Deila is dismissed because his second season in Europe has witnessed regression. Undoubtedly, helming the first Celtic side to fail to win a game in a group stage has caused the 40-year-old reputational damage. The horrible, hapless home and away defeats to Molde played a huge part in that. Not least because the Norwegians, along with Champions League qualifying stage vanquishers Malmo, in August, and Maribor 12 months earlier, are so modestly resourced in comparison to Celtic.
One of the glimmers of hope, though, has come with the recent signs that Deila might be finally moulding a back four fit for purpose in cross-border games. The performance of central pairing Jozo Simunovic and Dedryck Boyata, along with full-backs Mikael Lustig and Kieran Tierney, in last week’s 1-1 draw against Fenerbahce in Istanbul, suggested Celtic have a backline capable of standing up to a Champions League qualifying campaign.
Indeed, it has been wildly exaggerated as to how deficient Celtic are in respect of returning to European club football’s promised land. A break here or there and they would have made it in each of the past two years.
Those believing a change of football management at Celtic is required question whether there can be confidence in Deila getting it right third – or fourth, in a way, owing to the administrative-error reprieve following the Legia Warsaw lashing – time. As stated by former Celtic striker Scott McDonald last week, the nature of the qualifying route mean the odds would remain in his favour.
Moreover, that concern could be flipped around. No Celtic manager in recent times – a period covering the tenures of Martin O’Neill, Gordon Strachan, Lennon and Deila – has ever made a telling impression in their first season. There may then be as many pitfalls of twisting as sticking for the Celtic board.
Deila has shown an admirable willingness to integrate young Scottish players into his side, and a bold – if at times, potentially, foolhardy – commitment to having an attacking edge to his side’s play on foreign shores. You don’t often read of positive stats to associate with Deila’s sorties in Europe with Celtic but the only two European group campaigns in which the club have scored in every game have been the two he has presided over in his 19 months.
Deila knows his ambitions for Celtic could not survive in the event of Champions League qualification not to being achieved next season. However, he deserves to survive and have the chance to make them come good then.
Make Andy´s a treble
HH
THE EXILED TIM on 18TH DECEMBER 2015 11:08 AM
GM
Possibly, but most on here attack the poster not the message, rather hun like don’t you think ?
HH
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TET – sorry mate but the irony of this is surely not lost on you?! NA2 is one of the “most” you refer to…
I have just been shown a picture of a young supporter showing his cut and bleeding hand to others. This was the result of an attack in a bar in Istanbul prior to the Europa League game. Surely these attacks on Celtic supporters in Amsterdam and Istanbul should have been investigated by UEFA? We were fined for the flares and rightly so, but why are these thugs allowed to freely attack visiting fans with the authorities doing nothing about it?
I am sure the Board will have looked into this matter, wont they? Or are they so detached from the fans that they just ignored it. They should have raised questions about travelling supporters safety by now, if they really value them.
WEEMINGER on 18TH DECEMBER 2015 11:10 AM
If they want to revamp the league fine. Why not follow the guidelines of all previous revamps in that it had to be 1 full season after the season in which it was agreed. That way it’s not helping anybody in the current season.
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Because that won’t achieve the objective.
THE EXILED TIM
Regarding the five way agreement, couldn’t Celtic fans raise funds for a judicial review?
Geordie Munro
But as I say, it’s what he says and the way he says it.
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I agree that this applies to pretty much ALL of our “tell it like it is” posters of all hues. Never does it cross the mind of some that they may be wrong, that there may be holes in their argument, and hence the message becomes dogmatic and repetitive, which browbeats the average poster and alienates them. That then diminishes the message.
Some would say the posters that do this are just sticking to their guns. I say they are bellicose bores.
But that’s just me. All I do is post puns, so…you know…whatever…
WEEMINGER on 18TH DECEMBER 2015 11:17 AM
What’s the best Kodi repo, that might have tomorrow’s game? I can’t make it. I’ve got Turks.
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You looking for the stream provider? I usually go in through SportDevil
!BADA BING!
AWE NAW
I think Smith is too far up the greasy pole to need worry himself. He’ll throw the wolves a few morsels if necessary.
He knows where the bodies are buried,and will decide which are expendable. On the quiet,etc…
I’d be worried if I had had any dealings with him. And I suspect many are.
NatKnow on 18th December 2015 11:30 am
Ta muchly.
A happy 25th of December to everyone!
Disney sound right somehow.
NatKnow on 18th December 2015 11:26 am
Right now though, it’s not clear that it would be needed to achieve that. As it stands the only team that might receive and an unfair benefit is Dundee Utd. Not that I think that’s acceptable.
How would it be achieved anyway. No relegation and top 4 promoted?
BobbyM
Aye, he has since I have been on here, and as you say fair play to him, never wavered one iota.
HH
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Nat
Context, I agree with what you say, but in the context of my original post it matters not.
HH
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GM
Yip :-)
HH
connaire12-The Board won’t say boo to UEFA,positions to protect
PHILBHOY
Nope. It doesn’t.
Cos yer a week early,ya clot!
What have you got Olivia for Crimbo*?
I promise not to tell,and she’s promised not to read your reply when she lurks later…
*just for the helluvit!
!!Bada Bing!! on 18th December 2015 11:38 am
connaire12-The Board won’t say boo to UEFA,positions to protect
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You’re damn right, Man City nearly got done for booing UEFA ;)
Well said Andrew Smith
T29
Probably, but what would it prove, what we already know.
It’s all about saving the hun, they want the bigot pound, nothing else, justice and fairness hasn’t a look in.
And who would we get to judge it, Lord Nimmo Smith…………………
As a support we stand alone, as a club, they stand with the establishment, the PLC dictates.
HH
Davidopoulos,
But you do it so well ;)
HH
Chainsaw time, wood to cut.
Laters
Davidopoulos:
Any chance you could explain to me what is ‘bellicose’ about having a personal reservation and voicing that reservation/fear in heartfelt and sincere opinion?