Neil Lennon, his goalkeeper and defenders will not be too concerned at the loss of their first goal in domestic football yesterday since Noah was a boy. John Rankin’s pot-shot from 20-odd yards clipped the post on its way in but the Dundee United player scored from an area of the field that is usually vigorously monitored by Beram Kayal.
We’re going to miss that guy……
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Stephbhoy…..COOOORRRRRECT….!!!!….SPOT ON…!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
….and Fergus The Man will NEVER be forgotten, by us,…. or by the ‘ROTTEN’
stephbhoy
Agree – think Celtic implemented an EBT for Juninho but Brian Quinn put the kibosh on it going any further.
As you say though – the bottom line, they were/are more interested in winning than fairness.
Remember, Paul Le Guen (a manager with a very impressive European footballing CV) was ousted when Sir Minty Moonbeams sided with Barry Ferguson & Boydochenko. Second place was not an option.
and on the huns game, the saint j centre half who rattles the ball of the bar, to let the huns score, what was he trying to do , seriously, how can he head the ball in that direction, from that position.
answers on a postcard please
NegAnon2 says:
15 January, 2012 at 22:35
I’m happy my signing figures are broadly accurate – Lubo was £0.35m, Viduka £3.5m, Mjallby £1.2m. I’m sure Riseth was around the £0.5m mark. Maybe someone could provide the figure?
Dignity signed a shedload of players, and again I’m confident that the figure of £36m is close to the mark.
The point I’m making is that Fergus DID invest in the team that season, and significantly so. If we spend £3.5m on a striker this month, I’m sure we’ll all be doing cartwheels.
You simply can’t criticise Fergus’ investment and commitment that season when you put it in the context of what the Huns were embarking on.
Let’s not forget either that Celtic were the best-represented club in the world at the World Cup in France in June 1998, and virtually all of the players involved suffered fatigue, injury and loss of form in the first few months of that campaign. Marc Reiper’s career was ended a couple of weeks in. That on top of Wim walking out at the end of the previous season, leaving us with little time to get in a new manager.
It’s east to sit here now and suggest a wee bit more money spent that season would have won us the league, but it would not be true.
£36m was bet against us winning the league that year, and we know the game’s crooked to start with anyway.
I’m sure Wim went on to manage a Japanese side in the J League.
Saint Stivs says:
15 January, 2012 at 22:48
aye- and there is a recent trend
make ye wonder sometimes how they keep from going under ;-)
HH
M
Sabre67 – as I said I dont care how unpopular the message is but we are not reinventing history.
I agree with a lot of what you have said – the support needed someone to galvanise behind – it was the support who bankrolled it all and made it a success. Fergus got £40M odd profit in the end (again I’m not criticising – but that was his reward for taking the risk). But the very people who made him the money were the ones he blythly let down. Thats why he got booed – not cause the daily record told us to.
Some of you really do have a dim view of your fellow supporters eh? I’ve news for you – without these people who you often have disgust for our club would amount to nothing.
1st for BBC scotland tricolour in the top left :)))
bad advice it was not bad leadership it was
jurno excuses to soften the blow
people think murray was led into this blind, that will be the same murray they claimed was a business genius, no my friends it does not wash
other clubs walked away for a reason
do they think we are all that stupid??????????
On Vardy, more chance of the first team squad getting signed up for by Reg supplying their cars.
Vardy at a bit mischief making with his tweet that he had arrived in Glasgow but omitting he had arrived with his Team…
Stand easy.
Keep the Faith!
Hail Hail!
Neg Anon – Fergus did let us down after Wim’s success, but the booing was disgraceful and a real low point for the support.
“we did it”….hope you weren’t booing?!!
TTTT
Bada
The campaign to allow a phoenix hun team back in, has Darryl King as its main cheerleader. The nonsense he was spouting was embarrassing. He also said Rangers have not done anything criminal otherwise people would be going to jail.
Well lets see on that following the tribunal. If it seen as evasion and not avoidance, then criminal proceedings will follow.
Of course according to Traynor et al, we are seen as been blinded by hatred for demanding fairness!!!
Saint Stivs says:
15 January, 2012 at 22:48
and on the huns game, the saint j centre half who rattles the ball of the bar, to let the huns score, what was he trying to do , seriously, how can he head the ball in that direction, from that position.
answers on a postcard please
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That would be the St Johnstone player that Rankers tried to sign at the beginning of the season.
NegAnon2 says:
15 January, 2012 at 22:35
StMichaelsBhoy – many Celtic supporters hold that view and Fergus did put his money where his mouth is. I am not sure you have your facts right on those signings.
Its never an all or nothing scenario – i am not suggesting we should have matched their spending regardless – I’ve never advocated that. But we could have done better and built on our success – we could have afforded that. But we didnt.
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Could we afford it? I’m sure the final phase of stadium redevelopment was only completed that season at a cost of £5m or thereabouts. Our turnover at the time was about £28m.
We had just bought, whilst building a stadium, Reiper, Larsson, Burley, Brattbakk and Lambert for a considerable outlay.
Orcs 98/99 signings:
Numan £4.5m
Amato £4.2m
van Bronckhurst £5m
Kancheskis £5.5m
Charbonnier £1.2m
Prodan £2.2m
Hendry £4m
Guivarch £3.5m
McCann £2m
Klos £750k
Moore £1m
Reyna £2m
~£36m
Saint Stivs,
Now conspiracy theories aside,how in the name of Jesus,is he no headin that out of the box or over the bar.
Didnae like the look of his wee weasly face as he walked away as if tae say mission accomplished either…
Murray Davidson………hmmmmm.
Sabre 67- Iwas with the prawn sandwich mob the day The Bunnet unvieled big Jock’s statue a few months ago.He was totally the opposite the way the jealous Lapdogs painted him.Very warm,friendly approachable.I thanked him for what he done for our club,and he was very humble in his reply.2 very high profile hun hacks told me a number of years ago,they were still digging in to Fergus’ past,because they thought he must have made “dirty” money somewhere down the line.Fast forward to 2012,the hun press are praying TBB is the Whyte Knight they crave,but very slow at looking in to his previous????
dirtymac says:
15 January, 2012 at 22:38
Cheers for that link.
There’s definitely something very dodgy about the Huns’ dealings in those years.
I remember an article on The Dog’s Bollix (fore-runner of e-Tims) from around 1998, regarding the £40m ENIC investment, and how ENIC were trying to rein in the spending. It suggested the Huns’ big-spending days were over, but somehow, Moonbeams was able to circumvent ENIC and continue as before. He eventually bought back their shares for £8m.
A journo later boasted that Moonbeams was brilliant at parting other people from their money. Might even have been that infamous Ken Gallacher article.
My dear,dear,dear,friend…Saltires en Sevilla
Hiya, Pally?
O.K.
You talk wi some authority oan this.. Ah see..
Hmmmmm
Ah gotta be careful,here.
Fur.. Ah Soitenly do not.
Fur, Ah hiv Never ever watched a Blue Square Fitba’ Match..
Sure.. Ah hiv watched .. Scottish Junior Matches..in Ma yoof..
And… Any guid Junior Players.. usually carried his Talents fur
scoring and so oan.. Wi Him. when he Signed fur a Senior Team
Not all of them.of course. but, I wiz a cinch that if An Excellent
Junior Player.. goat a Promotion.. he usually.Made the Senior
Jump…whit Success..
So..
When Ah say that Vardy is a Guy who..
SCORES GOALS.. aplenty.. Ah Remember those Junior Guys..who
scored Goals Aplenty.. and Maist of Them.. well..
Carried oan.. SCORING ..in the Majors.
Look..
Goal Scoring.. In Ma Opinion..
Is a KNACK.. Something that wance ye Hiv Mastered it
Ye never Furget it!
Na.. Ah believe that Vardy.. end the El Man fae Falkirk.. should be
gien a Chance.
Fur..
How else are we gonna Get a New Striker… if we Don’t
tak a Gamble..
Fur..
We DON’T Hiv theMoney . tae go oot there..
and SIGN..
A Guy.. who has all the GLOWING CREDITIALS..’
fur those Guys.. cost an Airm and a Leg ..and the Pick of
yer Dug’s Litter..
We must Trawl the Bottam of the Bird Cage.
Kojo
yer pal..who likes ye aloater.
A few songs we can sing on newcos first visit to CP (as a third division team in the cup I hope)
Bring on the r*****s.
F**k all ! You’ve never won f**k all (to the tune of blue moon)
Saint Stivs
Inter scored a goal in the Milan derby tonight along the same lines, the player who put the ball in the net was NOT offside but a couple of others were, the goal was rightly rulled offside.
Hun refs, ye canny whack them….
hamiltontim says:
15 January, 2012 at 22:39
hen1rik
Due to Hearts policy of selling directly to Celtic supporters, they tend to be rarer than a handsome hun.
However, prior to the last game at Tynecastle there were plenty of tickets being sold outside the ground. You may wish to try that.
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Thanks mate for replying, I asked my mate there and she said the atmosphere is meant be bad but I don’t care I would love to sample it.
Only nightmare would be travelling up there and not getting 1 but I guess it’s just yer luck.
StMichaelsBhoy2 says:
15 January, 2012 at 22:50
We signed Riseth for £1.5m from Linz IIRC
hamiltontim says:
15 January, 2012 at 22:39
I have never seen so many tickets as I did at the last swinecastle game…
Keep the Faith!
Hail Hail!
oh the simple wee pleasures in life,
childish i know, but when we play utd, and the wee tricolour scoreboard is in the corner of the screen i love it.
StMiichaels – assuming your figures are correct they dont look too bad at all by todays even more parsimonious standards. But do you remember who we soild?
In any case you continue to miss my point – I’m not attempting to put this into context with the huns. We had more TV money etc in those days and could have easily afforded to do better – but Fergus refused. And just because you say spending more money would not have resulted in more success doesnt make it true – thats called defeatism
NegAnon2 says:
15 January, 2012 at 22:51
Fergus McCann did not let Celtic down.
That’s just ridiculous.
Bankieboy,,are you a Clydebank Bankie boy?
Dirtymac – as per my previous answer I am not trying to compare our spending with the huns – my point remains
dirtymac says:
15 January, 2012 at 22:57
Thanks again! So that makes our spending in Fergus’ last season about £6m.
That was an ambitious, but not reckless spend and certainly gives the lie to, “Fergus let Celtic down.”
Neganon2
I am 99% sure Jansen did not manage again. If we matched the huns spending at the time we would now be broke.
If you booed Fergus McCann and claim to be right in doing so I am not going to change your belief that he let us down.
I think you were wrong,I also think that many fans at that time were not as aware of a media agenda compared to now.
I agree to disagree but nothing personal. We most likely share the same hopes for our club but remember our history
in different ways.HH.
Willie Frazer going to Derry at the end of the month?
See ye in Tracys..if ye have the balls.
StMichaelsbhoy – oh well thats me told then eh :)
Tric – aye
saltires en sevilla says:
15 January, 2012 at 22:51
saw your post on that very thing the other night, so how many huns playing against the huns have now scored for the huns. 6 and counting.
if i was the manager of one of these players i would be raging.
THE EXILED TIM says:
15 January, 2012 at 22:56
Saint Stivs
Inter scored a goal in the Milan derby tonight along the same lines, the player who put the ball in the net was NOT offside but a couple of others were, the goal was rightly rulled offside.
Hun refs, ye canny whack them….
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saw it live bud, and on seeing the huns goal, thats what prompted me to post.
Where abouts in Clydebank Bankie?
Neg Anon,
The boos that day were in the context of Bhoys Against Bigotry and Fergus’ attempts to dilute the IRA songbook. The papers took every opportunity to try and drive a wedge, but at the heart of the dissention was the message around the songbook.
That message was delivered by the mainstream media in their usual slanted manner, as we have seen in recent years with loose, twisted and disengenious reports. Fortunately we have the power of the internet to challenge that style of reporting, but it remains a challenge as we have witnessed with treatment of Neil Lennon, The Green Brigade and the Celtic support in general.
Fergus did not deserve boos that day, he should have been given the acclaim his involvement in Celtic’s recovery warranted. Nobody is re-writing history, but the plus column leaves the minus column significantly behind. That is the truth.