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A few categories of candidates for the manager position were identified before the end of the season.

There are a couple who would be considered ideal appointments, and who would be able to get on the list for top jobs in any country in Europe. If we can land one of them, and do so within the timeframe which will allow us to prepare for Champions League qualifiers, I think we’d all be happy (apart from those incapable of happiness, you know who they are).

Then there are managers with clear potential who have overachieved with resources available to them, but who also have a bit of European competition experience. You might know less about them, but their CVs can talk.  This list is more extensive.

It’s also worth remembering how Celtic (and others) operate in certain respects when appointing a manager. Clubs often interview potential managers who don’t fit their required profile out of courtesy.

If a candidate of a certain profile in the game (or at the club) asks to be considered, it’s likely Celtic would interview him instead of rejecting him out of hand. Football is a tight, interconnected, industry, where making contacts is preferable to breaking them, so don’t be distracted by newspaper stories that someone or other has been interviewed.  The story is likely to be accurate, but the context will mislead.

The process itself also changes how candidates are viewed. What the potential manager says about strategy, recruitment, technology are all likely to inform the club no his suitability.

Brendan Rodgers fits the bill before formal interviewing got underway, but he’s certainly not the only high-profile candidate under consideration, and I know others are making solid running.

The important thing to bear in mind right now, is that the moment a deal is done it will be announced, and that until that moment, don’t waste your time thinking you know what’s going to happen. There are too many variables to be certain of anything.

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  1. That basically supports that Malky Mackay may have been spoken to out of courtesy but is not a genuine contender.

  2. Convinced last night I would wake upto Rodgers on the steps of paradise promising us a bright few years in a fine ulster accent … Like young Martin did those years ago.

  3. TheOriginalSadiesBhoy on

    2016 11:02 AM

     

     

    THEORIGINALSADIESBHOY. Fella im not trying to lower anyones expectations but think back Celtic have previous history of useing big names to cover the truth they did it when they appointed Ronny. All I am saying is there is interest in Peter Houston he is well known by PL and is well thought of he has done ok in his managerial career. He knows the Celtic squad and fits in our budget I have no idea who will or will not get the job but I do believe Peter Houston is a candidate. H.H.

     

     

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    I’m not doubting what you say about Houston being a candidate and I’m well aware of the strategy of leaking that they are in talks with big names before coming up with a Mowbray or Ronny but, on this occasion, in my opinion, they would be seriously miscalculating the mindset of the Celtic support. As Bada said above,mthey can lock the gates on the way out because there won’t be many fans turning up next season.

     

     

     

    Remind me how Peter Houston has performed in Europe recently. Before anyone comes back at me about WGS never having managed in Europe, he played in Europe often enough and played International football so at least knew about the level of difficulty and what it takes to survive/succeed in Europe.

     

     

    I guess I’m one of those fans who does not trust the Board.

  4. People saying its a smokescreen and we will get another low level appointment …

     

     

    Can’t blame them for thinking that but I’m gonna put 1 last bit of faith in Lawell and say he isn’t that stupid. We need a popular appointment with decent record. There is alt better out there than Rodgers …many most of us probably haven’t heard of but I’d be happy with Rodgers appointment .

  5. Joe Filippis Haircut on

    THEORIGINALSADIESBHOY. I am not touting Peter Houston or anyone else as the new Manager of Celtic I am just saying I believe Peter Houston is a candidate. I can see why he is being considered but Paul 67 who is closer to the action than me is saying dont fall for the media speculation as they are not in the know when the new manager is appointed be that Peter Houston John Hughes or Jim McIntyre the Celtic support will be the first to know.The new appointment is not all about selling season tickets that is only part of it if a new man starts winning games in an attacking fashion and signs a couple of top notch players season tickets will sell mark my words. H.H.

  6. macjay1 for Neil Lennon on

    ……………..I think we’d all be happy (apart from those incapable of happiness, you know who they are).

     

     

    :-)

     

    :-)

     

    :-)

     

     

    A cracker.

  7. An Teach Solais on

    Hopefully the selection committee/Board are doing due diligence and not playing games.

     

     

    Once a new manager, hopefully experienced with progressive ideas and a good track record, is appointed to prepare the team for the forthcoming CL qualifiers, maybe the blog will calm down.

     

    Of course we want the CFC to submit Res12 to EUFA.

     

    Once the Court of Session issues its judgement on other issues we can look to see whether there is a mechanism to force SFA to revisit the LNS nonsensical decision and whether the club would have any locus in such a move.

     

     

    Cool heads will be required not some delusional fantasy land projections. IMHO. HH

  8. !!Bada Bing!! on

    GARY67 on 18TH MAY 2016 11:50 AM

     

    The best under the radar with European experience (& success) is Roberto Di Matteo

     

     

    Who is used to the continental way of having players forced on him…

  9. thetimreaper on

    Reading between the lines it seems that Moyes is still a possibility. The vast majority of fans want Rodgers. He would be a very exciting appointment. The club should listen to the fans and make it happen.

  10. clogher celt on

    I think in PL’s statement in The Sun last week he said that he hoped to have someone in by the end of the month.

     

    After the interview process we have to discuss terms with the appointee.

     

    Who knows if he will buy into the project?

     

     

    It’s easy to find plenty of negatives about the merits of the candidates who have been mentioned so I guess we’ll have to wait and see.

  11. GlassTwoThirdsFull on

    “There are a couple who would be considered ideal appointments, and who would be able to get on the list for top jobs in any country in Europe.”

     

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    Find that slightly hard to believe to be honest. Unless that’s a very loose definition of “top”.

  12. GLASSTWOTHIRDSFULL on 18TH MAY 2016 12:01 PM

     

     

    Do you think Rodgers for example could/would be considered for the gig at eg Sevilla or Atl Madrid?

     

     

    Do you see them as top jobs?

     

     

    I think he would at least be considered.

  13. BOBBY MURDOCH'S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS on

    SALTIRESINSEVILLA 1110

     

     

     

    Reading that,you started out as a fan of the strategy.

     

     

     

    Reading further,you realised that it failed.

     

     

     

    Why then,is it still in place?

  14. Onthewing,

     

     

    Very interesting development. Another possible, lucrative revenue stream for the new club, not newco, if they succeed.

     

    Recently, I read something, somewhere about Rangers Retail being overdue on the submission of accounts. I wonder whether that is connected.

     

    I say I wonder, not to appear wise, only since I am, when it boils down, a clueless numpty on the issue.

     

    In good company, I might add!

  15. TheOriginalSadiesBhoy on

    I’d take Moyes in a minute. I think Malky’s MacKay will have to rehabilitate himself by working as an Assistant Manager or managing at a lower level and rebuilding his reputation. I don’t think Celtic will take a risk with him as our No.1.

     

     

    Di Matteo, I think would be good. He’s managed West Brom and won the Champions League with Chelsea. He knows what is required in Europe.

     

     

    I am hopeful still, but not confident, that we’ll get an inspirational appointment.

     

     

    So many fans seem so eager to buy a ST if we make a good appointment that it seems a no brainer after watching the stadium steadily empty over the last few seasons. If you don’t get the fans back quickly they find something else to do and you have lost them forever.

     

     

    Deadline day for renewal is 27 May, I believe, so we need to have the new man named a couple of days beforehand.

  16. The Green Man says SACK THE Board on

    Afternoon Celts

     

     

    Gutted, thought Brendan was going to be the man.

     

    On second thoughts….is DD going to sanction 2m for a manager, and 15 m for players?

     

    Of course not.

     

    Its the old season ticket shuffle.

     

    Get everyone excited….then unveil, the cheapest option.

     

    Sorry for being cynical….but can you blame me?

     

     

    HH

  17. kevinlasvegas on

    Yeah lets wait and see. I thought Rodgers would be announced today. Next week is a massive week for us all.

     

     

    Res12, New manager and renewals?

     

     

    KLV

  18. Club statement says don’t trust anything you read in the press. Nothing more, nothing less.

  19. Consider your expectations as being managed (as ever).

     

     

    It’s always a surprise to me that many of you are constantly expecting better than the board delivers. At some point realisation has to dawn.

     

     

    The board are not changing strategy. Ronny was the fall guy(it was ever going to be thus), bankier told us nothing was changing in his accounts statement and Lawwell has been all over the press telling everyone how stupid the support are for not realising how wonderful the board are.

     

     

    Nothing is changing.

     

     

    The appointment will be a dissapointed to (cheap option first of course) and I sincerely doubt. If anything will be said by the club on res 12 and if it is it will be along the lines of the fans made us do it.

     

     

    But. It seems most of you are still intent to learn the hard way.

     

     

    Fair enough.

  20. Gary67

     

     

    Seen Di matteo linked with Aston villa and surprised he wasn’t mentioned with us. Always liked him as a player and thought was good manager aswel.

  21. DHARMA BAM on 18TH MAY 2016 12:08 PM

     

     

    I just think it’s messy. If TRFC are going to get another retail deal or do it all in-house, then I fully expect MASH to attempt to block it. This would then lead to possibly months with no retail income at all.

     

     

    *wild speculation alert* On the other hand, if you wanted to make sure there were no messy commercial ties affecting a phoenix well…..

  22. BOBBY MURDOCH'S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS on

    WEEMINGER 1139

     

     

    I read it as Brendan Rodgers did not interview to the expectations.

  23. saltires en sevilla on

    BOBBY MURDOCH’S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS on 18TH MAY 2016 12:05 PM

     

    SALTIRESINSEVILLA 1110

     

     

    Reading that,you started out as a fan of the strategy.

     

     

    Reading further,you realised that it failed.

     

     

    Why then,is it still in place?

     

     

    —///–///–///

     

    Bobby

     

     

    At the start PL seemed to be doing a good job and reckon most would be happy.

     

     

    The Bobo and Willo and adherence to Moneyball and many others, but most importantly a lack of action on Mibbery, Same club myth, Res 12 and my perceived lack of innovation & ideas got my dander up a loooong time ago.

     

     

    I stay schtum when the ball is in play during the season.

     

     

    Close season is the time to cover these issues.

     

     

    Why it’s still in place is anyone’s guess.

     

     

    Here’s mine:

     

     

    Majority shareholders really only look at bottom line and dividends for current year and forecast for next year. PL delivers on that. Everything in the garden is rosy for them.

     

     

    They might still think that way… anyone’s guess!

     

     

    Pub in 20 mins

  24. The Green Man says SACK THE Board on

    BMCUWP

     

     

    Id be surprised if Brendan didnt come up to scratch.

     

    Who is making that judgement?

     

    I was hoping that things would change for the better.

     

    But something tells me that it will be the cheap option.

     

    The strategy will remain.

     

    Sadly

     

     

    HH

  25. Hoop hoop Hooray on

    Ronny deila

     

    Tony mowbray

     

    Gordon strachan

     

    Martin O’neill

     

    John barnes

     

    Jo venglos

     

    Wim jansen

     

     

    Now honestly how many expected any of the above before the announcement was made. With the exception of NFL who had been caretaker they were all from leftfield unless my old memory is playing tricks.

     

     

    We have never hunted managers through the media.

  26. GlassTwoThirdsFull on

    weeminger on 18th May 2016 12:05 pm

     

     

     

    GLASSTWOTHIRDSFULL on 18TH MAY 2016 12:01 PM

     

    Do you think Rodgers for example could/would be considered for the gig at eg Sevilla or Atl Madrid?

     

    Do you see them as top jobs?

     

    I think he would at least be considered.

     

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    Debatable. Probably not Atletico.

     

    Look at how Moyes and Neville did when they went to Spain.

     

    Would Rodgers or Moyes be considered by any of the top clubs in England (where they do have experience)? I think they would more likely get a Stoke or West Brom.

  27. glendalystonsils on

    Paul 67

     

     

    You seem to be suggesting that we have cast the net wider than the more predictable names mentioned.

     

    I hope this is the case, although the more extensive the list, the longer the process will take and time is pressing.

  28. DHARMA BAM on 18TH MAY 2016 12:23 PM

     

     

    Wildly.

     

     

    I’ve now seen several tweets in agreement that this could result in no merchandise until it’s resolved.

  29. Ole glib and shameless starts his big move on the retail deal whatever you say about him he has balls, have to admit that is something to take into account when faced by an opponent

     

     

    James Doleman ‏@jamesdoleman

     

    Rangers FC terminate contract with their own retail division.

     

     

    Looks another expensive court case coming soon.

     

    James Doleman ‏@jamesdoleman

     

    If Sports Direct get injunction stopping any new entity selling Rangers kit until contract issue resolved things could get very interesting

     

    James Doleman ‏@jamesdoleman

     

    Cancelling the retail deal with Rangers retail is certainly a very bold move by Dave King. If it is a wise one only time will tell.

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