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Molde concerns, LNS Commission, action from clubs needed

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There are a bunch of Norwegian journalists walking around Glasgow today asking, “What, they cheated all those years? What are the FA going to do with them?” So many titles, so many trophies. Then they ask about tonight’s crucial Europa League game between Celtic and Molde.

I have concerns for tonight. Jozo Simunovic looks unlikely to feature, a fresh injury on the back of a lengthy injury absence. Dedryck Boyata and Mikael Lustig are definite starters, but you can perm any two from four for the other two places. Uncertainty in defensive selection is seldom regarded as a positive.

What I’m really hoping for is a tight game. One where we protect our penalty box and allow Molde to make the mistakes. They did this when Kris Commons pounced two weeks ago, so there’s every expectation they are far from impregnable, but Molde will have examined the mountain of evidence which suggests you can sucker Celtic in and hit them on the break.

If we keep it tight, we’ll win. If we try to sweep Molde off the park, as Fenerbahce did in Istanbul, any result is possible.
Late yesterday we ran an article on the boundary Lord Nimmo Smith’s SPL Commission put on their ruling. It’s worth a reprise today:

The Commission wrote:

“The Tax Tribunal has held (subject to appeal) that Oldco was acting within the law in setting up and operating the EBT scheme.

“The SPL presented no argument to challenge the decision of the majority of the Tax Tribunal and Mr McKenzie (solicitor acting on behalf of the SPL) stated expressly that for all purposes of this Commission’s Inquiry and Determination the SPL accepted that decision as it stood, without regard to any possible appeal by HMRC.

“Accordingly we proceed on the basis that the EBT arrangements were lawful. What we are concerned with is the fact that the side letters issued to the Specified Players, in the course of the operation of the EBT scheme, were not disclosed to the SPL and the SFA as required by their respective rules”

Lord Nimmo Smith was clear: the possibility that Rangers operated an illegal tax scheme did not enter his consideration as to whether the sum total of their activities amounted to a sporting advantage.

The SFA’s Sandy Bryson, in evidence to the Commission, saw no sporting advantage in an administrative lapse over an otherwise legal tax arrangement, albeit a lapse which the Commission found to be deliberate.

The question of a deliberate falsification of submissions to the SFA and SPL over an illegal scheme designed to prevent the payment of tens of millions of pounds of tax, has not been considered.

Ignore the PR coming out of Hampden today that this matter has been dealt with. Former directors of Rangers brought the game into serious disrepute, and their friends still walk the corridors of Hampden, but it’s the clubs who will have the final say on what and who is investigated, not a PR man, or football body chief executive.

It is critically important that fans of all clubs let their custodians know their feelings on this matter. Celtic pushed themselves to the brink of what was financially responsible during the EBT years. This cost our club the opportunity of building a sustainable strategy (like we’ve been building since Rangers liquidation).

More than this, the division and recrimination amount the support as we pulled back from spending ever-more, while Sir David Murray’s splashed inordinate amounts of cash, never completely resolved.

Had Rangers been submitting legal tax returns, the entire landscape of what was possible for others in Scottish football would have changed. Hearts, not Celtic, were the biggest financial losers of this fiasco (figures next week), but dozens of others lost out on cup runs, trophies and higher prize money.

Right now those in power at Hampden have no idea what the clubs will demand of them, they do not even have plans to discipline those who brought the game into such complete disrepute. If the clubs want to put honesty and integrity at the heart of our game, they can do so. I know one club who will put this case very forcefully.

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  1. At the end of the day it was the Oldco that administered the EBTs so it’s unfair that the Newco supporters should have to suffer due to the actions of those directors associated with the old company. Oh, wait a minute……

  2. HH

     

     

    My head is bursting????

     

     

    This would be a good time to take out an add in a newspaper or online, some sort of draft letter that all other supporters could send off to Their chairmen/chairwomen of the club they support.mass coverage for all clubs to act?

     

    Just a thought

     

    HH

  3. PHILBHOY on 5TH NOVEMBER 2015 3:21 PM

     

     

    Losing only one will be a massive improvement on recent European ties this season, last five games have been two goals in four of them, three in the last one.

  4. South Of Tunis on

    22 degrees / sunny @ 16 15 – way down south..

     

     

    Sircumcision for Murray – please .!.

     

     

    The Deady Bears to be stripped of every title they won during the relevant period – please! .

     

    The money for SFA spivs at the SFA to be forced to explain years of failure to meet the requirements of their role.- please !.

     

     

    2 Scottish Banks to be forced to explain why the Deady Bears / David Murray were handed big sums of money without the application of the usual controls – please !

     

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    Scottish fitba was shafted / the Treasury was shafted / the tax payer was shafted / bank share holders were shafted ..etc etc .

     

     

    Let it go and you are tolerating cheating / fraud etc..

  5. PHILBHOY on 5TH NOVEMBER 2015 3:26 PM

     

     

    Hope your right. Would boost confidence ahead of last two games in group.

  6. SOT,

     

     

    Like every Celtic supporter I hope that all you call for comes about. My fear is that unless the likes of Willie Miller or Jim Spence organise things, nothing will happen. It can’t happen until the time for an appeal expires. If Celtic or a known Celtic supporter takes the lead, it will be shot down in flames by the SMSM.

     

     

    Imo, the matter is so serious, especially the behaviour of the bank(s) in not carrying out due diligence, that the Scottish Government needs must take action, calling all those who acted irresponsibly (putting it no worse) to account. Will they? Can they?

  7. Tim Malone Will Tell on

    I think it is worth reminding everyone that Dermot Desmond is our major (not majority) shareholder and most certainly doesn’t own Celtic.

     

    If enough shareholders have a similar mindset, we can push for action wrt systematic cheating through AGM and/or EGM.

  8. I don’t care if as a consequence of picking up the cudgel ,Celtic are seen to be bitter and and vengeful.

     

     

    Feeling bitter and wanting vengeance is quite normal ,when someone has been cheated upon,lied to ,and robbed.

     

     

    I want Celtic to go after these cheating liars.

     

     

    TT

  9. South Of Tunis –

     

     

    The Lee Perry gig in London was excellent. He may be 80 but he gave a performance. A varied selection of tunes – even managed a track from Super Ape (Zion’s Blood). He was on for about an hour an 15 mins. Bedecked in his crazy attire and with war paint on – he owned the stage. His band were….rocksteady.

     

     

    Fog meant my flight back was delayed and I spent an extra day/night in the Smoke. What to do? I had to while away the hours looking for record shops. Discovered that both Selectors Music Emporium and Supertone in Brixton are both now sadly closed. The Rough Trade shop just off Brick Lane had a small selection of vinyl. Got a few goodies.

     

     

    All in all – a trip to remember…

  10. Does folk really believe other scoddish clubs/supporters will rally behind us in having titles stripped from the hun?

     

     

    Try starting a wee Irish folk song in any of these clubs grounds and you’ll hear what they think of us.

     

     

    The one i’m pinning my hopes and prayers on is that they go bust again, and going off their figures just published yesterday it aint got long to go by the looks of it.

     

     

    lackofcashwillmurderthemagainCSC

  11. South Of Tunis on 5th November 2015 3:25 pm

     

     

    Answer to 2 is something I have referred to often on CQN.

     

    I less polite circles it involves unnatural acts with goats and the application of monkey’s paws or in the family friendly version, knuckle crunching.

     

     

    As I sad before, it all hit the buffers when thon English bassas took over the BOS.

  12. I really hate these 6’00 kick offs. Until it gets to near 4 o’clock and so there’s only 2 hours till kick off. Woo-hoo.

     

     

    I like early kick offs. And late kick offs.

     

     

    When’s kick off?

     

     

    LullabiesandButterfliesCSC

  13. TINYTIM on 5TH NOVEMBER 2015 3:44 PM

     

    I don’t care if as a consequence of picking up the cudgel ,Celtic are seen to be bitter and and vengeful.

     

     

     

     

     

     

    Feeling bitter and wanting vengeance is quite normal ,when someone has been cheated upon,lied to ,and robbed.

     

     

     

     

     

     

    I want Celtic to go after these cheating liars.

     

     

    It is now sixty six years since I first watched Celtic.

     

     

    In that time I have had to listen to an awful lot of THEIR sneering and jeering, often applied in the vilest of terminology.

     

     

    That is why I posted yesterday that I want to see Celtic going in with the boot.

     

     

    Have THEY suffered enough.

     

     

    Have THEY friar tuck.

     

     

    – See more at: http://www.celticquicknews.co.uk/molde-concerns-lns-commission-action-from-clubs-needed/comment-page-4/#comment-2711601

  14. the glorious balance sheet on

    Molde were also a victim of the Huns financial doping, defeated in Uefa cup qualifiers in the mid-2000s.

     

     

    I wonder if Peter Lawwell might happen to mention any of this to the Molde chairman tonight.

     

     

    Just saying………

  15. any word on who is playing tonight? I am still fretting over the free headers the sheep got on Saturday. 4 by my reckoning was confident of a win now not so sure need a few drinks to settle my nerves.

     

    Stop them getting in crosses and we will win tonight

     

    Hail Hail

  16. Caberfeigh

     

     

    We will win by 2. But we won’t go 2 up until late in the game. That’s late in the early kick off so early if it were a normal kick off ;-)

  17. Willie Miller

     

    ‏@DonWillieMiller

     

     

    Dear @spfl, now we know that Rangers used illicit funding for players, titles MUST be stripped.

     

    Football is only sport if fair.

     

    It was not.

     

    Would like to hear from some ex Celts who feel as strongly as Willie Miller.

  18. Yup as soon as LLoyds of London came in the jig was up, looking over the accounts with Masterson they stop and ask “Whois this guy David Murray? ” awe he’s a knight of the realm…….is he?……..why is he getting money from us and not paying in a penny?…..aweeee David is a brother…..YOUR BROTHER………nawwwww a mason………..awe aye an yer point?………..welllllll…….

     

    Wellllllllll nothing, get ez arse in here……..and as they say, the rest is history, two things damaged, 1 RFC, and Two, Scottish free mason cabals….it’s only a matter of time a tell yi.

  19. Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_Noo on

    You don’t know how to play the game

     

    You don’t know

     

    You don’t know how to play the game

     

    You don’t know how to pay your bills

     

    It’s the sound of Hector calling

     

    Or is it Sport Direct ?

     

    You don’t know how to play the game

     

    You cheat

     

    You lie

     

    Now go away and die

     

    Cry…

     

    Mow go away and die

     

    You don’t know how to play the game

     

    You don’t know

     

    You don’t know how to play the game

     

    Don’t you hear any voices cryin’?

     

    That’s the sound of hunnery dyin’

     

    Here comes the pain

     

    You don’t know how to play the game

     

    You cheat

     

    You lie

     

    You don’t even know how to say goodbye

     

    Now go away and die

     

    You don’t know

     

    You don’t even know how to say goodbye

     

    Now go away and die

     

    You don’t even know how to say goodbye

     

    Now go away and die

     

     

    Ghodley & Stein

     

     

     

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    Mon Ronnie and the bhoys tonight.

     

     

    Any win will do me

     

     

    HH

  20. Tim Malone Will Tell on

    BOURNESOUPRECIPE on 5TH NOVEMBER 2015 3:57 PM

     

    Who gets the St Etienne Bike?

     

     

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    BSR – Surprised at you,

     

    That’s not a nice way to describe Sarah Cracknell.

  21. Yesterday was a great day apart from the result from Stamford Bridge and that durty wee cheat winning again.

     

     

    I noticed however that Chelski didnae have any poppies on their strips, they did against Liverpool on the weekend. So lets no upset the Europeans who they were at war with but not the citizens of a neighbouring country they have been at war with for 800 years.

     

     

    I can understand Chelsea with their affiliation to the Chelsea Pensioners, likewise Arsenal who originated from The Royal Arsenal Woolwich who carried out armaments manufacture, ammunition proofing, and explosives research for the british armed forces.

     

     

    But WTF was it with Everton who had the “Last Post” played.

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