Money on the table will decide European football future

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I see the Sun have a steer today that Celtic “will join forces” with clubs from Netherlands, Portugal and Belgium to oppose the suggestion from Barcelona and Bayern Munich that the likes of Manchester United should get automatic access to the Champions League, whether they qualify or not.

The consensus spreads beyond the countries mentioned above, Greece and Turkey also have large teams, unable to take advantage of lucrative domestic TV contracts.

As Barcelona’s Josep Bartomeu told the BBC, the FA Premier League presents a real threat to all clubs outside it. The suggestion is that TV and commercial values of the Champions League should be bolstered (which it would by having Manchester United next season instead of Galatasaray) to raise the income dividend for all participants.

This proposal would put more income onto Barcelona and Bayern’s top lines but it would not change the fundamental issue that the English and Welsh league generates vastly more income than any other domestic league. Raising income generated from Champions League football would not reduce the disparity in income from domestic football between England and Wales, and the rest.

What’s needed is a league to replace the existing domestic leagues, filled with big teams with large stadiums packed with supporters each week. There are enough big European clubs outside of England capable of fitting this criteria to fill two 20 team leagues.

Two divisions of 20, broadcast live across the world on Friday, Saturday, Sunday, Monday, each game played by huge clubs in front of >50,000 seater stadiums would dwarf the England and Wales league.

The earning potential is there to make it happen. What’s needed is someone to put money on the table.

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  1. glendalystonsils on

    BOURNESOUPRECIPE on 24TH FEBRUARY 2016 4:11 PM

     

    I bought an air guitar on eBay, hasn’t arrived yet.

     

     

    Is it arriving by air mail?

  2. Auldheid

     

    If you havde to hand could you mail me where you are atwith res 12 etc the process and the clubs involvement

     

    I can’t track down your posting here or on TSFM.

     

    muchas muchas

     

    hasta pronto

  3. Anybody heard fae the

     

     

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  4. glendalystonsils on

    BSR

     

     

    They must be lurking because my laptop’s starting to steam up and make rattling noises.

  5. *** LAST MAN STANDING 7 ***

     

     

    Delighted to announce that we are only 10 entrants away from reaching a fantastic new milestone – 100 particpants. Still over 50 hours till the tournament kicks off so plenty time to drop your ‘can I play’ email to us at cqnpredictor@gmail.com . Noticed KevJ suggesting that this morning’s link doesn’t work but this is defintely the right address. He also asked about the reference to Wee Shay so hope the following (from Celticrollercoaster) will help.

     

     

    Thanks for your support

     

     

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    We are now welcoming entries for Last Man Standing 7, our final LMS competition of the season.

     

    Awwwwww, I hear you say, but we will be back next season and perhaps may just pop up over the summer with an Euro 2016 competition.

     

    The competition will start on Friday 26th February and the cost to enter is £10 per person per entry. Please register your interest asap by sending us an email to cqnpredictor@gmail.com and we will send you more details and indeed the fixtures for week 1.

     

    Our final competition is a cracker, with a rollover prize pot of £725 already secured as a starting point for the winner. Looks like it could be a 4 figure sum this time.

     

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    To make it even easier for you

     

    1) We even do some shennigans with the old history thing and allow you to ahem, airbrush any honest selection mistakes made in week 1 to 3. We know you didnae mean to select that team.

     

    2) We even let you enter as many teams by yourself, family or friends as you want.

     

    3) and this time, we are introducing the concept of selecting a draw each week.

     

    What makes this a great competition, is the support from you all and the monies raised for the charity side. Once again, 50% of the funds raised will go towards treatment for Wee Shay McGinlay We would ask that you would consider sharing this with your family, friends and colleagues via word of mouth, email, facebook or twitter. Our competition is open to all. The more entrants we get, the bigger the prizepot and indeed the funding for Shay.

     

     

    You can read about Shay here

     

    https://www.facebook.com/Help-Shay-Along-The-Way-81445122…/…

     

    Since August 2014, when we came across Shay, the CQN community and friends through LMS and other activities has raised over £8500 towards his treatment. Wee Shays family and other fund raising has also raised a further £5-6,000 which has meant that the first two years treatment is now secured and we are now starting to secure a third and perhaps a fourth year of treatment.

     

    The dream for Shay’s family is for him to be able to eat, talk and perhaps walk.

     

    His Doctors put it simply “Gaining full head control plays the most important role in helping provide a child with functional mobility. Without head control the child cannot sit independently. Without sitting the child can’t crawl; without crawling the child can’t stand, and without standing the child can’t walk. This is the natural progression that all healthy children go through automatically”

     

    But it is not simple, it is hard work and a lot of work requires to be put in by the Shay’s parents each day ( up to 2-3 hours of exercising with Shay at a time) in between each treatment.

     

    Shay is now in the second year of his ABR treatment which happens November, March and June (each years treatment costs £6,000) and it is working but it is a slow process.

     

    If you have followed Bailey Matthews, then you can see where the family’s dreams and hopes are.

     

    Watch this clip below

     

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/sports-personality/35129597

     

     

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    You are all part of this dream.

     

     

    Thank you

     

    Help Shay Along The Way

  6. “O’Neill is the first Old Firm boss in years to tell the truth about bigots”

     

     

    Rangers fans were branded bigots by Celtic’s manager after their recent game – much to the fury of Ibrox fans. But Graham Spiers says O’Neill should be praised for his comments

     

     

    Nobody needs to preach to me about the complexity of bigotry. Sometimes explicit, sometimes subliminal, sometimes clouded by humour, trying precisely to trace a bigot is a vulnerable and dangerous task.

     

     

    There are some strands of evidence though, which can be presented without argument.

     

     

    Let us suppose, in the case of prejudice against Catholics, that someone regularly and with great relish refers to someone as “a Fenian bastard”. Or suppose, with equal fervour, they enjoy singing about someone “dying a Fenian bastard” or of being “up to our knees in Fenian blood”. Or consider even the plain, less adorned chant of “dirty Fenian bastard”.

     

     

    Now this is language uttered without fear or inhibition, which can be taken as evidence of bigotry.

     

     

    This was Rangers chairman David Murray’s major problem three days ago. Following comments made by the Celtic manager Martin O’Neill, about the bigotry at Ibrox last weekend, the irony was that it was Murray who was suddenly on the back foot. Murray was forced to come out and defend his club’s supporters, yet he knew he had a difficulty. His problem was that, at Ibrox, hordes of Rangers supporters routinely shout and chant bigoted slogans.

     

     

    “We should guard against broad generalisations [about] our fans” said Murray in response to O’Neill. But it was the subtext of this remark that was telling. Murray knows, as everyone else knows, that the atmosphere at Ibrox on match days can be thick with bigotry.

     

     

    Around almost every corner of this sensitive subject, you have to apply checks and balances.

     

     

    Rangers should not be tarred exclusively with the sectarian problem, because Celtic suffer from it as well. In this specific context, we are dealing with Rangers and Ibrox, precisely because of what Martin O’Neill said earlier this week. Moreover, at Rangers, by general consent the sectarianism is worse than it is at Celtic.

     

     

    He outcry over O’Neil’s comments in Barcelona about the bigotry of many Rangers supporters has

     

    been extraordinary. Although he was goaded into making his remarks, what O’Neill said was the essence of truth and he deserves great credit for saying what he said.

     

     

    Last Tuesday evening, O’Neill claimed there had been “racial and sectarian abuse” of his players at Ibrox when Rangers played Celtic last weekend, and that at times it had reached “an incredible crescendo”.

     

     

    Speaking from a media perspective, I hardly know a reporter or an observer with any experience of Ibrox who would deny what O’Neill said. Personally, I have been going to Ibrox, man and boy, for 30 years and would certainly concur with O’Neill. Some among us might not like that fact. Others may prefer to keep quiet about it or even erase it from our consciousness. Others might even be embarrassed about it. But I’d like to find a convincing man or woman anywhere who would be willing to stick up their hand and say “Bigotry at Ibrox? Not true.”

     

     

    What was mystifying was the remarkable controversy following O’Neill’s comments, as if he had said something plainly preposterous or delusional in nature.

     

     

    Every sentient person I have spoken to about O’Neill’s remarks has congratulated the Celtic manager for saying what most observers in Scotland have been stating for 50 years. Yet there is still an impression somewhere out there that O’Neill was in the wrong.

     

     

    The fact is that Rangers cannot crush their sectarian problem. Years ago, David Murray referred to the Rangers supporters as “an embarrassment” because of their bigoted chanting, yet try as Murray might, or try as Martin Bain, the club’s director of football might, they cannot erase the stain. These days, at Ibrox on match days the idiom of bigotry is as prevalent as ever.

     

     

    In these debates, you cannot just indulge in unsubstantiated or timeworn hunches. Instead you must present cold evidence born of experience. So from myriad examples in my own experience, let me provide one concrete case from Ibrox and the Old Firm game last Saturday.

     

     

    As it so happened, I gave up my usual seat in the press box to a Sunday newspaper journalist, whose immediate need for more working space was more pressing than my own. Hence, I made my way to a different seat at Ibrox, with greater proximity to the Rangers supporters. It was an experience that reminded me again of how widespread and malignant bigotry at Ibrox is.

     

     

    From too many mouth to count, people like O’Neill and Neil Lennon, the Celtic midfielder, both Catholics from Northern Ireland, were subjected to sustained sectarian abuse throughout the match. It is worth actually citing these slogans. They ranged from “Fenian c***” to “Fenian scumbag” to – in the case of Lennon – “away and f*** yersel Lennon, ya Fenian bawbag”.

     

     

    A Rangers supporter sitting close to me, and representing that great strand of decent Ibrox supporters who must be routinely embarrassed by all this said, said to me jocularly at half time: “You’ll note that we are among the discerning Rangers supporters up here”. He was joking, but his sarcasm made the point. It was a rotten, ignorant, venom-filled atmosphere, which, Martin O’Neill, three days later in Barcelona, would quite rightly describe as bigoted. Yes, it is a subtle business actually “defining” a bigot. Yes, a 90-minute bigot on a Saturday afternoon doesn’t necessarily mean full-blown bigotry in the rest of an otherwise decent citizen’s life. Yes, inhibited people often bow to peer-pressure and join in such chanting when they’d rather not.

     

     

    The very least you should be, though is suspicious of such behaviour. In many cases, there is simply no doubt about it. If the diagnosis of a real, genuine, bigot proves to subtle to perform, then the only response can be the one I gave to the very likeable Donald Findlay, QC, when he denied being a bigot after resigning in disgrace as vice-chairman of Rangers.

     

     

    “Donald, I don’t know if you’re a bigot or not,” I told him, “All I know is that you acted like one,”

     

     

    For too many people, in the raucous atmosphere of Ibrox, the shouting and singing amount to prejudice. From my point of view, if innocents are otherwise tarred by these allegations, then I simply have to keep apologising to decent supporters who feel the rough edge of a critics pen.

     

     

    Just don’t deny the unavoidable truth…that here in 2004, an alarming number of Rangers supporters, as David Murray well knows, are bigots.

     

     

    It is folly, not to say a cultural disservice to Scotland, to denounce O’Neill for what he said this week, and I say this as one who is only too aware of the futile and dramatic exaggeration of bigotry in our country. Five years ago, when the composer James MacMillan, in his famous outburst, claimed that such places as Scottish Television and BBC Scotland were “jam-packed with bigots”, I regarded it as plainly absurd, a mis-use of language. But Martin O’Neill’s comments this week carried a distinctive, more authentic tone. O’Neill knew what he was talking about and he hit the truth dead-on.

     

     

    O’Neill, I believe is the first Old Firm manager in 30 years to offer such a bold and unequivocal condemnation of the sectarian problem. For that fact alone he deserves credit, though it begs an old question from some of us: why is that Rangers and Celtic who find themselves at the very centre of this blight should be so routinely silent about it?

     

     

    Alex McLeish, the Rangers manager, is, to use the vernacular, a top bloke. Anyone, like me, who comes across McLeish will vouch not only for his milk of human kindness, but also his charm, thoughtfulness and strong humanity. Yet what would I give for McLeish one day to say: “You know what? I love football, I love Rangers, and I love the passion of our supporters. But bigotry is something I detest to my very core, and I wish those Rangers supporters who indulge in it would stop embarrassing themselves, our club, and me”.

     

     

    Those of us who inhabit the football world have a favourite cliché about all of this. We say of bigotry: “It’s not football’s problem, it’s society’s problem,”

     

     

    Well, yes, this is self-evidently true, and the medicine for it all surely lies in education. But football shouldn’t be too dumb to speak up about the problem. Nor should we go mute when seeking to apportion blame in the endless, tip-toeing sensitivity about what attaches to Rangers and what to Celtic. Rangers, in particular have a major problem with bigots, which I believe the club is trying to address. Martin O’Neill, meanwhile, deserves credit for having the courage to talk about it.

  7. a braw day the day so it is….

     

    .a big braw birthday to my mucker Alan,a huge Tim and a braw braw laddie,,,,,I know he is lurking ……

     

    and to anyone else who is celebrating the day ,have a braw braw day

     

     

    Braw

  8. glendalystonsils on

    bournesouprecipe on 24th February 2016 4:51 pm

     

     

    Quite a few Mac users have told me that. Sometimes they get quite evangelistic about it-:))

     

     

    The only mac I’ve got is a dirty auld raincoat-:))

  9. Brnobhoy……………….probably the most important thing when buying a guitar is the action ie make sure the strings are close to the fingerboard otherwise it’s extremely difficult to play and the student will eventually give up. Learning a musical instrument to a reasonable standard will provide endless enjoyment at any stage in life. Best of luck with your purchase and your daughters musical adventure.

  10. blantyretim is praying for the Knox family on

    Mini was given a pink acoustic guitar as a communion present

     

    Pity it wasn’t a left handed one :-)

  11. just walked into the kitchen and found the 14 year old mini dharma making her second cheese toastie in the toaster by putting the toaster on its side and inserting the cheese sandwich.

     

    She was quite unconcerned as “that’s the way everyone makes them”.

     

     

    Is this a new level to the toasted cheese debate or just a way of trimming the herd?

     

     

    No wonder I could smell burning toast when I was upstairs!

     

    Sheeshkebab!

  12. blantyretim is praying for the Knox family on

    Dharma

     

    Mini tried that at breakfast on holiday one year

     

    Next morning after they repaired the toaster there was a notice advising guests that only bread should be placed under the grill

  13. Clogher Celt

     

     

    Thanks for that , walking tour sounds good ., although We were going to do Kilmainhaim Gaol on the Saturday morning so not sure how to fit in both.

  14. Very timely article from The Clumpany today on the Liquidation Lies, as the words ‘back’ ‘return’ and ‘again’ in relation to Sevco possibly being in the top tier start appearing on CQN with more regularity, courtesy of the Elvis Is Not Deaders.

     

     

    YNRA.

  15. Dharma Bam on 24th February 2016 5:19 pm

     

     

    I’ve never heard of such nonsense. Get toastie bags from Lakeland.

  16. BT,

     

    It makes less worried about her now that I know it’s not just her and her pals.

     

     

    Though I would like to find out just who had the original lightbulb moment and then started telling everyone about it.

  17. WHITEDOGHUNCH on 24TH FEBRUARY 2016 4:36 PM

     

     

    Auldheid

     

     

     

     

     

    If you havde to hand could you mail me where you are atwith res 12 etc the process and the clubs involvement

     

     

     

     

     

    I can’t track down your posting here or on TSFM.

     

     

     

     

     

    muchas muchas

     

     

     

     

     

    hasta pronto

     

     

    – See more at: http://www.celticquicknews.co.uk/money-on-the-table-will-decide-european-football-future/comment-page-4/#comments

     

     

    Do I have your e mail already? If not e mail me at auldheid046@gmail.com

     

     

    If do just give me first 5 characters.

     

     

    Anyone else wanting to go on an update list who have not e mailed me already can e mail me to be put on it.

  18. Bournesouprecipe

     

     

    Facebook explains a LOT of her recent behaviour.

     

     

    Weeminger – SSSHHHH! I just want her to use the oven grill just like everybody else.

  19. BRNOBHOY – have you considered an electric guitar? If so a Yamaha Pacifica and if you have a games console in the house Rocksmith/Rocksmith 2014 would be great for starting out. It’s like those guitar hero games but you plug a real guitar into it. A fun way to learn.

     

     

    If I had that when I was young I might be able to play guitar now :-)

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