Scottish football is posed for the most momentous stand-off in its history. The battle lines are clear:
Money v Morals, TV money v Season ticket money, Bank of Scotland v Fans
In 12 days the SPL clubs will vote on resolutions which will enable a new club to parachute straight into the SPL following the liquidation of Rangers without having to apply for entry to the Scottish Football league and rise through the pyramid. Five clubs can block their entry – for a few days anyway. Six, a majority if one member is liquidated, would be enough to ensure Rangers Newco SPL entry is blocked.
According to the SPL Fan Survey fans would overwhelmingly like to see any Newco football club enter the Scottish Football League, a position supported by a large number of Rangers fans, but the voices of fans are more easily discarded than that of the Bank of Scotland, who a large number of clubs depend upon to keep their own clubs out of administration.
In short, unless clubs can demonstrate to the Bank of Scotland that they will lose more money from disaffected fans by voting for Newco than they will by voting to retain the custom of Rangers fans, with accompanying television and sponsor money, Newco FC will be voted into the SPL.
Celtic will vote against Newco but fans from Hibs, Hearts, Aberdeen, Dundee United, Inverness, St Johnstone, Motherwell and St Mirren have to do more to make their case directly with their clubs. Irrespective of fan views, I reckon Dunfermline shareholders would rather relegate their own team than Rangers. Don’t even ask about Kilmarnock.
The Gang of 10 may speak as one. If they get rid of Rangers they will be able to out-vote Celtic and have a unique opportunity to change voting rights, allowing them to capture long-term money currently going to Celtic. This, together with overwhelming fan pressure, might be enough to persuade some, but this issue is more complex.
Despite initial opposition to changing the voting rights, Duff and Phelps may vote with the Gang of 10 on voting rights as part of a deal to allow them to sell a place in the SPL. Yes – trade votes in order to sell a place in the top league. Sporting integrity dismantled forever.
Since we first raised the alarm on this vote back in October I have been convinced Newco would be ushered into the SPL but the weight of opinion from fans from other clubs is stark. Over half of respondents to the Survey say they will not attend SPL games if Newco is voted straight into the league.
Even the Bank of Scotland would have to recognise the business sense in siding with the fans if this view is made firmly enough.
Truth is, no one knows which way this one will go, but this is a once in a century opportunity for fans to make a stand.
Bids for the original canvass painting of Neil Lennon by US based artist, Joseph Gormley, has topped £600! Keep an eye on the auction, which ends tomorrow, here.
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Vmhan
“Hear Hear” – “Hail Hail”
It’s becoming more and more difficult to see how the Huns will play anywhere next season.
http://scotslawthoughts.wordpress.com/2012/04/18/when-will-rangers-in-administration-run-out-of-money/
” Increasingly, it now seems likely that Norris awarded the spot-kick, converted by Craig Beattie to give Hearts a 2-1 victory, for a hand ball against Victor Wanyama and not Joe Ledley. If so, this takes the award from the realms of desperately harsh to ridiculously absurd” (Hugh Macdonald in the Herald).
A calimitous decision by an alledged hun season ticket holder but Neil is in the dock for being cross about it?!?
morning one and all
weather in UAE today overcast, 22 degrees, nice
been a little wet past couple o days,
but not too much
cuaght first half of match last night
Chelsea strong in defence
Drogba killer strike 1-0 FT
other match Bayern 2 Real 1
makes for two interestin 2nd legs
i see Hapoel got to the quarters this season
it can be done
our team….work in progress
so far so good
goin in the correct direction
hail hail
They have done it before & they will try to do it again.
Elbows and that other in-bred cretin will start up-front for the bankrupts in the final derby game.
How do we combat this obnoxious twin menace?
Chuck,Wilson & to a lesser extent,Rogne and Glenda have been bullied all over the place by the wretched hun,in recent meeting between the sides.
The polo mints shall hit high balls straight up the park to these talentless hatchet men,in the hope that others pick up the scraps,a la dirty Daniel Cousin.
If i was Lenny – my solution would be this – all out attack!! Throw caution to the wind and simply score more goals than the degenerates.
If it is to be at the expense of Hoops & Stokesy – then so be it.
Start the game with wee Dylan,Paddy(if available) & Samaras – Emilio as well,he is braver than them all.Go at them from the start,fast & furious.
This could be the last time ever we play that dirt – we must defeat them.
Never thought that i would utter these words,but i wish that Dan was there in defense for us.
I’d go with this for the murderwell & hun games….
Forster
Matthews
Wanyama
Mulgrew
Izaguirre
Brown
McGeouch
Ledley
Samaras
Brozek
Hooper
Wanted to go with the kids but realistically Lenny wont do that. Hopefully Watt will make an appearance in the remaining games, 25-30 mins at the end of each game would do him good.
ooops forgetting the cheating huns could be dead by then. Hope so.
I would send out the young team to play Murderwell – and i would bet a pound to a penny they will defeat them.
My team for the 29th:
:::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::FF::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
::::::Matthews::::::::::::::::Glenda::::::::::::::::::::::Rogne::::::::::::::Emilio::::::::
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::::::Samaras:::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::SB:::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::Chuck:::::::::
::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::Paddy:::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::Dylan::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
Any players that have been left out will know why they have been omitted from the starting eleven.
Good morning friends (just Serge by the look of it) from a very grey and drizzly East Kilbride.
Still, thunder only happens when it’s raining.
Jobo
initiallyIthoughtstevienickswasaguyCSC
Christ the Redeemer formation.
Good morning Jobo, HH
Sixteen roads to Golgotha
Was just about to say….are you going for the attacking crucifix formation! HH
or against the hun would it be the crook-a-fix formation!
Serge on 19 April, 2012 at 06:38 said:
I know mate,that’s what it looks like on paper – but nothing is static – the likes of Paddy & wee Dylan,also Sammi will be given a free role up-front to hound the beggar’s defense.
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I would dearly wish it to be the last time we play them,and like you,I think they will kick us all over the park.
More so than usual,in fact.
So………
Do you think Neil Lennon will get hammered for suggesting that this particular game might require a strong referee?
BOBBY MURDOCH’S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS on 19 April, 2012 at 06:44 said:
Good morning BMCUW – I trust that you are well sir?
The way that i see it now is that all this Lenny carry-on & the rest of it,is just a side-show.
They’re gone mate,no matter what way you look at it,the dying embers – lets kick out a poor Lenny,one last time.They have nothing left my friend.
I never once pretended to understand all the financial stuff,but my own common sense tells me that this is the end for them.
It would be sweet to do them one last time all the same,pity for the punters that we will be odds-on…but sure,money won is always better than money lost.
Sixteen roads to Golgotha
I would definitley send out a team to attack them. Go at them from the start. Let them worry about us. Get Parkhead rocking from KO. We are always capable of annihilating teams if we get an early goal. Wouldnt that be sweet if we gave them a good send off with a boot to the……;-)
Good morning fellow Celts from the 0646 Ealing to Barking
Grey skies over London town and not as much sport today with Chelski fans at work as I had hoped..
Surely the couldn’t …could they become the first team from the smoke to win the big cup?
Anyway good to see so many standing behind Lenny. My view is straight forward: If you are still doubting the man after what he achieved and what he is being put through you are not a Celtic fan or a even a football fan.
If you continue to refer to him as Lennon on a Celtic forum you are a total Hun or so far out of touch you are posting from Cygnus X1
HH
M
Have they paid for the tickets yet, and the circa £40m they are also due to pay us ……. If not, we don’t play them…..simple as that …
Serge I was travelling into work and just read….. Hear hear indeed!
V
How many league games has Paddy started for us this season?
None
Serge on 19 April, 2012 at 06:59 said:
Never a truer word spoken mo chara.
God only knows that we have lost our fair share of the battles,but sure…we were fighting against an establishment.They hit our club with everything.They declared war on our club,we had no choice.We are a peaceful support,we do not seek conlfict,but at the same time – we are not going to sit back and let anybody try to walk all over us.
They were told more times than enough – You cannot defeat us.But they wouldn’t listen…they kept trying and trying,to no avail.And now look at them – on their knees.I pity them.
All that i am now is content – we won the war.But we are not going to gloat,that’s not our form.
I shrug my shoulders at them.
Put yourself in HMRC’s shoes……
You don’t know exactly , or even to the nearest £50 million, how much you are owed by Rangers…..
You don’t know whether any sums offered to creditors will be affected by whether Ticketus are creditor or bidder…..
You don’t know whether Craig “irrelevant” Whyte holds a floating charge , and what the value of this charge is……this crucially determines whether ANY money could come your way
You don’t know whether Whyte will do a deal with anyone to sell his shares, thereby removing his claim via the floating charge…..
You haven’t seen any of the business plans, which your own rules say have to be viable, before you can even consider a CVA offer…..
You don’t know whether the SFA and SPL investigations will hole the viability of the business plans below the water line
If the preferred bidder is from Singapore or the USA you have the added complication of no previous dealings, and therefore no sense of whether preferred bidder will be any more likely to pay your tax than Murray and Whyte
You are aware of multiple legal actions , with the high probability of more to come. You suspect that this may impact materially on the viability of the business…..
And yet……you are being told it is crucial that a CVA is agreed ,in principal , urgently
All the while you have a raft of other cases , for even larger sums of public funds, waiting for the outcome. You are under pressure not to drop the ball and agree anything which would jeapordise any of these cases
Given all of the above, what would you do ?
I’ll tell you what I would do if i was HMRC………nothing, not a thing until I had clarity and a satisfactory answer to each and every one of the above.
If anyone was stupid enough to attempt to bounce me into an early decision on a CVA, I would simply say NO…….come back when EVERYTHING is clear
Vmhan
Nothing less than 100% backing from me.
CQN is my new work, Been making test packs for the job for 3 weeks so logged on all day ;-) HH
saltires en sevilla on 19 April, 2012 at 07:04 said:
If you continue to refer to him as Lennon on a Celtic forum you are a total Hun or so far out of touch you are posting from Cygnus X1
behave!
Sixteen roads to Golgotha
We will soon find out who is still standing at their death. We will not go away, We are here to stay. I will be happy to never play them ever again. They deserve death for their bigoted cheating ways. The sooner the better. HH
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Howdy,bud. All fine at this end-you too,I trust?
I thought I knew a bit about finances and all that sort of thing,but I overlooked the obvious possibility of someone simply ignoring the rules,regulations and the law!
Either way,I’ve been forecasting liquidation since they tried to spend their way out of the Kaunas disaster.
I pointed out that even with CL income,they could not trade their way out of the debt,despite historically low-then-interest rates of around 3%,and I estimated their unpaid tax-which was fairly widely known about even then-as only being about £25m.
Overall,I reckoned their debt then to be about £60m-unsustainable!
At current guesstimates of £150m-unsurviveable!
Aye,like you,I think they’re gone.
As i sit here,looking back – i remember that larger-than-life Bear,crutch in hand…those words that he screamed that day,will resonate with me forever…
“The Big Hoose must stay open!!”
Saltires en Sevilla – Ealing eh? Had a good few days and nights in Flanagans on the Uxbridge Road.
Funeral today boys and it’s funeral weather alright. Pall bearing duty beckons so will catch up tomorrow.
H.H.
The Scottish media don’t have exclusivity on one-eyed journo’s, take a look at these player ratings.
hunbelievable
Good luck to Neil Lennon today.
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I have his mental-(!)-image of that hun getting slagged off his mates for calling it THE BIG HOOSE.
And him saying-Aye,well Ah’m gonny get ev’ryb’dy callin’ it that! Ah’m gonny make it stick!!!!!
How right he was,and how he must be wishing he hadn’t bothered……
Can someone clarify for me, please
NEIL was described this morning on BBC Radio Scotland as an Irishman…
They describe rankers’ players like laughfarty as Northern Irishmen
Just wondering, you understand……. Am I missing something ?
Saltires
I stayed in Ealing for a couple of years around 2002, Good part of Town i liked it. Not so good travelling to Tower Bridge for work every day though. HH
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Flashbacks to the nineties in particular when we’d just battered the huns,erm,0-1.
As I keep telling my mates down here,I don’t particularly want England to lose because of their country,or even their fans. It’s because of the high-handed arrogance of their players and media.
BOBBY MURDOCH’S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS on 19 April, 2012 at 07:30 said:
PMSL!!
Tell ye one thing chief – I would give my right arm to be the Dj at Paradise on the 29th of this month!
Penny Arcade as the teams walked out,the Celtic support just laughin’ at them.
Poor wee huns.
Have a brilliant day everybody. :)
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Oh,not “Penny Arcade”,no,no,no.
This one is MUCH MUCH more appropriate,trust me.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NEdyx5wfH4U
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I hope the blinkin’ link works!
no, I’M Neil Lennon “i’ll never walk alone” (fourstonecoppi ) on 19 April, 2012 at 07:18 said:
Sorry got carried away there
tomthelennytim on 19 April, 2012 at 07:27 said:
Hope all goes well and condolences.
I’ll try Flannagans I am at The Common end :)
Serge on 19 April, 2012 at 07:33 said:
Just settling in mate but like it already great pubs and reasonably handy for food and access to town. Best boozer for games if not Flannagans :) ?
HH
M