The extent of Celtic’s pursuit of Ronny Deila can be seen from the fact that Peter Lawwell established a false identity before setting up a Norwegian football blog in early 2012 to allow him to pen this article titled, The Awesomeness of Ronny Deila. There is a chance the blog wasn’t written by our CEO, but the appreciation of Ronny’s talent is clear.
No deal has been concluded, so it would be a mistake to get too worked up yet, but the fact that we have got to this stage clarifies where we are, and are not, looking.
Neil Lennon resigned two weeks ago and a whole series of names, most of whom are freely available and would be delighted to accept the Celtic job, have been hotly tipped by media and bookies alike. Celtic will not be appointing the likes of Owen Coyle. Suggestions, by many who like to knock the club, that they will make a dash for season ticket cash by big name are also wrong.
Roy Keane was a serious contender, wanted by some within the club. He was in pole position a week ago, forcing those who only days earlier had proclaimed with great triumph that Neil resigned due to budget constraints (he didn’t) to re-write their script, but Roy had other plans. As did some at Celtic.
The club have been busy looking for an intelligent, technically gifted, coach. One who has a track record of innovation, improving players and improving teams. Ronny will not sell tickets on the basis of his own identity, become none of us knew him, but it was absurd to suggest Celtic would look for a short term fix with enormous Champions League qualifiers looming a few weeks away.
By any measure Ronny is a student of the game, a “Moneyball” candidate, according to the above ‘Awesomeness’ article. We don’t need the archetypal British shouter-manager, renowned for his inspirational abilities. You can get the guy who puts the cones out to do the shouting. We don’t need a media darling either. Someone already alerted me to the fact that surely ‘Ronny brings it on himself’, whatever the media decide ‘it’ is, and the manager doesn’t need an Irish granny.
I’ve not seen too much of Lennoxtown but what I have seen is a campus with talented coaches, fitness experts, nutritionists, sports scientists, scouts and analysts. We need a manager in tune with this approach to the game. Someone who will dovetail with this infrastructure, who intuitively recognises its value without needing to be told.
These appointments are always a risk, but if we’re looking for someone to fulfil this criteria, we’ll do very well. I’ve yet to back a managerial appointment by our board in 10 years writing this stuff. This could be about to change.
Lladro replica World Cup trophy
My thanks to Liam, from East Kilbride, who donated his prize memento, a Lladro replica World Cup trophy, commissioned by the Spanish FA in 1978, and acquired by Liam in 1982. It will be auctioned on Saturday with proceeds going to our Mary’s Meals school kitchen appeal. You can get involved in the auction, or keep an eye on it as it happens, here. The auction takes place at Great Western Auctions, on Dumbarton Road.
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Neganon
One other thing, what’s dangerous about these times. Were you around when the ‘rebels’ won. Those were dangerous times.
Other great value signings, apart from the abovementioned Lubo & KoK?
Bertie Auld – on nobody’s radar but came back and did a wonderful job with us.
Eric Cantona – although nobody doubted his abilities, Fergie took a real flyer on him.
Pirlo going to Juve. Nuff said.
Winning captains………spot on re John Collins………not getting Celtic !!!!……..is up there with some of the worst pash I’ve read on here!!
NatKnow re. Hibs
Their expectations are not in line with their potential – big support, capital base, tense rivalry with Hearts etc.
Although, with their record of achievement of major honours, maybe its no surprise!
HH
theoriginalsadiesbhoy
11:20 on 5 June, 2014
Oops ‘priorities ……. was’ should read ‘priorities …………. were’.
I blame the schools…… Thanks for reply
Natknow
manager being given no choice which players club buys? John parks choices? Pukki, Boerigter, Balde as started.
All just in my humble opinion of course.
MWD
If you ever meet John Collins you won’t doubt his Celtic allegiance. I’ve met him a few times, initially when he played with us and was at my friends wedding, and later, through his spell at Livvy. My wife’s boss was then chief exec at Livvy. He is also a very likeable and personable lad.
I’m not convinced he would be a great Celtic manager, but that probably holds true for all the quoted candidates. Assuming we are not getting a Mourinho, then isn’t it safe to say we will be gambling anyway? Someone will get the job, and I don’t see any point in doing anything other than backing them until it’s obvious they’re a lost cause….ala Tony Mowbray.
rt rev david hay
13:24 on 5 June, 2014
NatKnow
indeed. no better time. this is the one area where the appointment isn’t a risk.
we will win the league this year again at a canter whoever is in charge.
but like neganon and others I have for the last few years feared the route our
club has taken.
all this corporate governance crap really does my box in…I want a celtic team
on the park doing the business home away and in Europe. its all I want.
last year in Europe was a disaster and neil himself was to blame for some of it but
the blazers and waving of balnce sheets really gets on my tits.
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There’s a few of us who think the PLC model is not the best vehicle for our hopes and aspirations and that the focus ends up being on PLC matters with progress on the football pitch taking 2nd place. Until that structure changes we’re stuck with it. I think a lot of the so-called “negativity” arises from frustrations caused by that dichotomy. However, we should also aknowledge the pros to a PLC structure – by law a certain amount of transparency is required. This is a better situation than the manner in which some other clubs have been run in the past.
Bye ya eejits time for the sensible one to go Off oot.
jamesgang 13:17 on 5 June, 2014
Isn’t ‘moneyball’ just a fancy term to describe what any well run professional sports team should in the realm of youth development and transfer policy under the more mundane title of ‘Common Sense’?
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You could be right.
Walter Smith : “The financial bit of Rangers Football Club and common sense don’t often go together.”
Natknow
name me a club of a similare size to ours who’s CEO is being paid a similar salary and bonus?
MWD says AYE
The Lladro world cup is here http://www.greatwesternauctions.com/catalogues/es070614/page007.html
Nice one Liam
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IIW9sL-Yf6Q
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wj84tfS7ag4
:-))
HH
Im excited by possible new gaffer.. Alot more than if it was coyle or keane anyway.
Same as Paul67 i havent got the gaffer i wanted since o’neill was brought in.
Paul67
You might not read this or probably answer it but i’ll give it a shot anyway.
Celtic more than a club the board will say.. Would they tell us why our manager/hero decided to call it a day out of the blue ?
Will they tell us why thompson left ?
Why johan left ?
Just seems the old more than a club motto gets spoke of alot and i agree but i also think when it comes to board/fans relationship we are no different from chelsea, man city etc…
We are expected to fork out large amounts of money, take days off work, use up holidays, neglect family and friends to follow our club but when massive decisions are made we have to turn to the BBC, Daily record, internet sites to try find out what happened.
traditionalist88
13:28 on 5 June, 2014
NatKnow re. Hibs
Their expectations are not in line with their potential – big support, capital base, tense rivalry with Hearts etc.
Although, with their record of achievement of major honours, maybe its no surprise!
HH
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Could be mate. I just don’t get it. I know they have passionate fans – or as I would prefer “loonies”. But there seems to be nobody that cares enough to do anything to improve them. Just weird.
CQN World Cup predictor
Anyone filled their entry yet? Who wins in your book?
I’ve got Spain beating Brazil in the final, in a thrilling 3 1 game. That’s the good news. The bad news is I have England into the last 8 , where they lose. I’m actually ok with Engurland doing well. Must have lived there for too long!
winning captains
Could’nt agree more., he kept us going in the 90’s, I remember games at Tannadice and Brockville in particular (4-3 and 5-4 I think) when he was particularly brilliant, and off course some of his performances at ibrox. He conducts himself well, unlike most he’s never went down the ‘uncle tom’ road and you can tell he’s a real Celtic man.
Would love to welcome JC back to Paradise
HH
jamesgang
13:17 on 5 June, 2014
Isn’t ‘moneyball’ just a fancy term to describe what any well run professional sports team should in the realm of youth development and transfer policy under the more mundane title of ‘Common Sense’?
1,500 words.
Discuss.
HH jamesgang
Moneyball is two things, deciding a strategy that is sustainable and long term, not knee jerk and constantly in flux; and reliance on stats and evidence in selecting players and staff not guy instinct and superficial attributes. For example do you choose the 5’9 ginger freckly striker or the 6’3 long limbed dark haired adonis? In comparable leagues and similarly performing teams one has scored 40 goals with 22 assists the other 25 goals and 6 assists.
For guy read gut, clumsy fingers
‘Value can come in the form of an older player, with no resale value, but whose value to the team can outstrip the cost of bringing him in.’
Maybe Swally is less dumb than we think ?
Except that oor Ronny would never sign a Kenny – “banjo – couldae – coo’s hind end – hit” – Miller.
Would he ?
;o)
Iv never heard John Collins speak a bad word about Celtic unlike that w***** andy walker, davie provan or several other ex players.
People looking for a manager with a better cv.. What makes a better cv?? Winning trophies at a top club paying in a top league in Europe. None of them managers will come to Scotland. Its hard enough getting our own fans to come and watch Celtic every home game so how are we suppose to attract a top manager to come onboard ffs!
Id far rather have an ‘unknown’ foreigner with new ideas, training methods, style of play etc than a boring, safe EPL ex manager like mackay, moyes, coyle or clarke any day of the week.
The honest mistake I am concerned that we have no footballing ambition. We aren’t trying to improve.
KDC it’s an easy trap to fall into to think that I am espousing the mad behaviour of other clubs. I am pointing out that our ambition is simply to make money and not improve the team. Question is what is the point in making that money if it’s not to improve the team? I was indeed around when the rebels won. Those were also dangerous times too but our collective love for celtic won the day.
These are dangerous times too if. The supporters are being alienated by the club, the passion is being removed. That’s dangerous.
I paddy no thanks I will come back cause you will miss me too much I fear.
twists n turns
Any updates on the nags ?, I’m off for a week and not doing so well picking my own
There is one word that has not been mentioned in the persuit of the Norse god……a word that I doubt really has affected Ronny……but will come in absolute fjords full
PRESSURE……….. PRESSURE…….. PRESSURE……….
Extreme from all angles ………front of scum today …….kind of building already…….
NatKnow
again..too much sense ;-)
im not sure if its the support that puts the spotlight on the likes of DD, lawwell & bankier etc or they crave it…whatever it is, I couldn’t care less whos hands on the tiller as long as we are winning.
lets see if we can conduct a wee experiment to see what everyone thinks….
if you could pick anyone, currently, at all, from any level to become manager who would it be? (money no object or barrier straight up)
ill start
Klopp
The argument being in baseball and we’ve seen it in football that a lot of decisions are based on flawed logic because it’s accepted wisdom.
Natnow do you really believe celtic are being transparent with the support?
Ronny Deila denies there has been any contact between the clubs in an interview following last night’s game, according to a film report on Reporting Scotland.
Moonbeams WD. Wee Oscar’s our Bhoy and Kano’s our mhan.
13:31 on 5 June, 2014
Natknow
manager being given no choice which players club buys? John parks choices? Pukki, Boerigter, Balde as started.
All just in my humble opinion of course.
MWD
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Well, that must be something you’ve inferred (or implied?! ;-) ) based on your knowledge of the inner workings of transfers etc at Celtic Park? I don’t work there so can’t know for sure who is all involved in making decisions about which players to buy. But I doubt that Lenny had no say at all in. To be honest, I imagine that, like any big company about to make a large investment, there are a whole number of people who need to sign off on any deal for a new player. I don’t think either Peter Lawwell or John Park have that kind of power.
However, taking the examples you cite, you’re only telling half the story by picking out the 3 x players above. If John Park was responsible for those then he was also responsible for the successful players such as Van Dyke, Johannsen, etc?
If you want to know what ‘moneyball’ is then just google it as the book or the movie. It is about a geek with an idea and a programme that finds bargains that others have discarded or ignored.
It harps back to early 2000’s.
Neganon
Where exactly you think the money is going, it’s not on dividends that’s for sure
Twentyfirst
I’m at airport now mate. Mr Maynard runs tomorrow at Market Rasen.( if he is withdrawn, he will go at the same course on Monday) He is off a good weight and I think worth backing ew. He is definitely capable of winning off 97, so I’ll be on assuming I have internet access, which I should have.
Kitalba,
Did you really just type that lubo and Henrik weren’t moneyball signings as the movie wasn’t out then?
KDC. Moneyball reduces decision making down to statistics and does so dispassionately and without thought for balance. Celtic are not using it to get better. Simply to buy young and sell on. There is no football ambition here. And the Moneyball project didn’t work in the end.
KDC that’s an excellent question. I have no idea! Celtic aren’t telling us!
I personally prefer Linsanity.
rt reverend Davie hay and natknow
From a bit earlier guys, I did wonder when I heard Ronny Deila’s name if this was our LeGuen moment. Then I remembered. He got wee Bazza and we have got Broonie, a model pro.
I’d like to see JC being part of a new set up as well, always assuming it happens.
HH
“while his salary and bonus structure are on an the up and up. ”
Aye that 70 quid increase will cripple us so it will.