We were all disappointed Cameron Carter-Vickers missed out on the USA’s opening World Cup game last night. In all the games we have seen him play, he has never conceded a penalty like the defender who took his place did. Still, managers are reluctant to chop and change central defensive partnerships, so Cameron may not see much action.
Given how crucial he is to Celtic, we should perhaps not be too disappointed his profile will be subdued at the tournament.
Aaron Mooy featured in 11 of Australia’s World Cup qualification games and will hope to start tonight in what will be a challenge against holders France.
Recent World Cups have seen the clearest manifestation of the Winner’s Curse. Whereas losers have an obligation to break and fix their structure, winners are incentivised to keep things as they were. We have seen this cost Celtic in recent years. At World Cup level, this has perhaps contributed to four of the last five winners failing to make it out of the group stage. Brazil, winners 20 years ago, being the exception.
France were far from convincing at the Euros. After a 1-0 win over Germany, they drew with Hungary and Portugal before being sent home by Switzerland on penalties in the first knockout round. No obligation to go through World Cup qualification will not have helped their preparations either.
So maybe Aaron Mooy, 32, will be the breakout star of this World Cup! Tune in, 7pm tonight, to find out.
Well done to the Saudi players. It is in no way patronising to suggest the thrill most players have at being able to compete against Lionel Messi. To do so and win the game on the biggest stage you will ever play is the gift of football. A result of the ages, up there with Algeria beating West Germany in 1982. I thought they were brilliant.
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Aussie Gold?
:-)))
Argues were terrible
Agree on all counts Paul.
Aaron’s calmness is much needed for a callow Aussie squad.
Yes the Saudis were really superb; did not shirk and kept gutsy commitment levels up for the whole 90.
The result must have their Bond villain manager cackling with wicked delight. HH
Argies.
As a football spectacle, brilliant.
I think that game also answers a long running debate.
Messi is no Maradona.
HH.
Joe Cole: “when I looked at that high line I thought WHAT ARE THEY THINKING” :))))
Souness: Not enough aggression from Argentina.
Michael are you taking them away ?, now you must run their club with ‘dignity’
Pick a big name , any name Giovanni Van Bronkhurst was a long unemployed named short tenured, short manager? He did an incredible job, but like many Rainjurz and Sevco big names was simply a depressed second best, to their nemesis from Parkhead.
Glaswegians were warned regularly during hurricane bawbag, to “watch out for falling masonry” . Much later , on the other side of the river, failing masonry became a lot more dangerous. They founded a whole new club, and let the establishment do the rest with the death the name , the facts and the history.
For a lodge of masons that stood to salute sunken Rainjurz , then piped in a whole new club, GVB is small potatoes. This is Scotland’s self entitled world champions of shame, the new owners of Padlocked FC , know no bounds and have unmarkable necks. These are the peepil who waited and waited and waited till the club was dead, and then stole the carcasse from other darksiders that didn’t wait long enough.
We have been warned at many junctures, many times through historical Celtic, to beware ‘the men in the bowler hats‘ . The ghosts of the past go up and down the only marble staircase in football still shackled to their ball and chain. Their societal Paisley Rd, puddle drinkers are for smashing George Square when they win, scurrying away down drains when they lose, but in Scotland we’ve learned, again there are immorally worse men, in proverbial hats.
The unseen fenian hand has played the FFP / FSR card , to trump FTP all day long. They still haven’t signed an expert in situ named manager to date., nor are they likely to. Wee Giovanni signing for the wrong Glasgow club was a shame, but to then go and sign for both of them was downright carelessness.
The gift that keeps on giving CSC
A shock result indeed, but what’s with the hysteria in the studio? Tabloid television in full flow.
GREENPINATA on 22ND NOVEMBER 2022 12:15 PM
Maradonna was thirty when Argentina lost their first group game against Cameroon.
“Whereas losers have an obligation to break and fix their structure, winners are incentivised to keep things as they were. We have seen this cost Celtic in recent years. ”
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There’s a couple of guys in Manchester who may disagree with that.
Well-run clubs should always be looking for improvement. Even when things are going well.
We’ve seen games like today plenty of times following Celtic. It can happen. The trick for the Saudis is can they go on now or is today their World Cup final ?
Argentina probably will qualify but undoubtedly have plenty of work to do.
Chairbhoy (from earlier)
Good post.
You would almost think they already had their man!
Remember the quote:
“We had approaches from many, many agents, many representatives of managers across the board. How credible it was, you never really know. We put them in the file, just left it and kept our word to Neil, really.”
Hmmmmmm…….
What did Mick Beale actually achieve with Sevco according to the media he was the technician that scuppered Celtic chance going for 10 in a row ,In fact being when Lennon threw a lot of players under the bus ,they downed tools which lead to us practically giving them the league title.
Beale organised them. Made them into a well-drilled defensive unit and used their pace to full advantage. There were quite a few games that Celtic survived v them when they finished by far the much stronger team. He’s not the problem though. The problem for their Club is FSR and their fans don’t want to know anything about that, but, it will stop him from developing them the way he’s probably been promised if he gets the job, of course, por cierto
Watching that game makes you think about the coaching at the World Cup. Scaloni is in charge of a team with outstanding attacking options and his team only scores a pen, but he’s never managed a club side so he wont have much experience of facing what is, these days a pretty basic defensive formation in a competitive game
Celtic will face stiffer challenges from teams with worse players, but better coaches in the Champions League, they’ll be better practiced in dealing with those sort of tactics, but it does show what’s possible against the very best players.
Its no longer revolutionary or novel. Press high and aggressively, hold your nerve and keep a high defensive line, attack with bodies in the box so you’re always offering a threat, and do all of it for the full 90 minutes and you will, occasionally, get your reward.
Its one way, but it is a way
Beale only did half the job at the Huns. Gerrard did the man management which for us and them is very important. He attracted a better sort of player, set the standards, motivated the team.
Maybe Beale has got what it takes to manage us or them, he wouldn’t be walking into the job blind, but the Mike Tyson quote about having a plan until you get hit in the face applies doubly in Glasgow.
‘France were far from convincing at the Euros. After a 1-0 win over Germany, they drew with Hungary and Portugal before being sent home by Switzerland on penalties in the first knockout round. No obligation to go through World Cup qualification will not have helped their preparations either.’
I’m confused as they did go through qualifiers. The previous winner thing stopped about 20 years ago
What is it with Sevco and their lacky media pals.
When someone has not been at Ipox for a while they become better players/managers.
D :)
What I like about Mooy is that he never seems to get out of first gear…
Of course that could be because he doesn’t have a second gear….
In most games, the ball has not been subject to long punts up the park from the goalkeeper, except maybe for wales when the big fella came on , and lots of team play from the back using full width of the pitch and right up into the corners.
The marginal offside calls maybe correct to the VAR Lines in a game but they give no advantage to the attacking player.
I would change the rules.
You are offiside only if the ball is kicked from your own half and the player is beyond the last defender
and
In th eoppostion half you are only offside if you are beyond the goalkeeper
GLASSTWOTHIRDSFULL @ 12:26 PM,
Yes, that was very odd, when at the time, all the noises seemed to suggest there was a vigorous search afoot for BR’s replacement.
It’s stranger still when you think recently of the boasts that Ange was in that self same “file” at the time.
Hail Hail
Great result for Saudi, really enjoyed the way they played the high line and rode their luck in the first half, then at half time must have thought, we can beat these guys amd came put all guns blazing
Immense, hope for a few more “upsets” and hope some Clubs look at their conventional wisdom and say exactly what are we paying a million dollars for.
Hail Hail
Let me think this through, Saudi are ok winners because …………
Was listening to rather than watching the Argentina game.
Can anyone confirm whether the Saudi players wore the ‘one love’ armband and took the knee in protest at Qatar’s treatment of foreign workers, Women, and the LGBT community? The least I would expect.
Her Michael
Aye Peter,
here is another bunch of cvs from agents telling us all these managers that are available …….
ok, lets have a wee swatch,
too dear
too old
no managed in a year
sacked from 3 clubs
won a title in australia,
won a cup in norway
too dear
dear god no him
seriously him again, thats the 5 time he has applied
used to be good
up and coming in usa
another german
aye, ok, put them in the file marked “neil is better than”
cheers.
i can make up stuff an awe
Denmark v Tunisia: Ball hits player on the arm in the penalty area . No doubt about the ball hitting his arm, but it doesn’t even go to VAR.
This handball situation is so ambiguous its impossible to determine what or when a penalty should be awarded.
GREENPINATA on 22ND NOVEMBER 2022 2:38 PM
Denmark v Tunisia: Ball hits player on the arm in the penalty area . No doubt about the ball hitting his arm, but it doesn’t even go to VAR.
This handball situation is so ambiguous its impossible to determine what or when a penalty should be awarded.
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was it the keeper?😉
Celtic40Me
So glad I missed the Argentina game after I learned Toupee Souness was on the panel. He’s been spouting so much drivel of late I’m not sure I could take seriously anything he now says.
Greenpinata – Just enough ambiguity to ensure you can give the benefit of the doubt to anyone except Celtic.
son of dallas says it is a penalty ………….. to rangers
0 – 0 FT
CONEYBHOY on 22ND NOVEMBER 2022 2:39 PM
Ha ha, no it wasn’t
However it’s just happened again. Only this time the ref consulted VAR and deemed no penalty.
The rule seems to be:- There are no definitive rules,
HH.
If only Tav was playing 🙃🙃🙃🙃
The ref didnt give the Denmark penalty was because of a foul on a Tunisia player form the corner
The legendary Broonie with a rather grumpy looking BRRB.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/5xVtDQF9itYj4kPK8
Is this the sons of the Saudi U41 side who won the world cup in Scotland? :-)) no grudges here eh lols
I wish them well.
Well done Saudi Arabia.makes every game mean something now in that group.
Back to the books
HH
GREENPINATA
Went to VAR over here the ref. checked and decided no penalty, hit him on the chest then arm.
Noticed none of the Danish players shouted for a pnalty they were ready to take a corner if memory serves me well and that is debatable. Bottom line i dont know what is a penalty any more.