Do you remember the early days of Celtic Quick News when one wit suggested this was a blog for accountants? Our early years did a great deal to bring a wider understanding of accounts and finance to Celtic fans – which was a good thing.
Today your fan of Scottish football needs to know about more than the game and amortisation, a semester or two in law school is an enormous advantage. We touch on legal matters here but last night I enjoyed reading the forensic analysis on the wonderful Duff and Phelps on the Web 3D Law blog. It’s worth 10 minutes of your day, each day, the most recent blog especially. I also assume you are all keeping an eye on the substantial thoughts on Paul McConville’s blog. If not, I want to know why.
So much for accounts and the law, today I want to discuss philosophy with you.
When football-types talk about morality and hypocrisy they are usually worth listening to, if only for comedic value. Anyone experiencing the Scottish media will not doubt that morality is subjective and chameleon in nature. This question has exercised great minds for centuries, if only they had the benefit of our effervescent radio luminaries.
Despite being metaphorically surrounded by morally opportunistic hypocrites, Ally McCoist felt so secure in his demands for Rangers that he didn’t dodge the issue yesterday.
When asked if Rangers should be kicked out of the SPL he accepted it “might be the right thing to do morally and people will have their own opinions on it, with differences far and varied.
“There’s an argument the right thing to do is for Rangers to go down to the Third Division and that might be the case if it’s a Newco after liquidation.
“But is it the correct thing to do for Scottish football? Probably not. Everybody’s got a dilemma and that’s why there are so many opinions on it.
“Whether people like it or not, Rangers and Celtic are different because of the size and magnitude of the two clubs.
“Supporters of other clubs and some Old Firm supporters say you can’t have rules for some clubs and not for others.
“In an ideal world, that would be 100 per cent correct. I would absolutely and totally agree with that.
“But the fact of the matter is we’re asking if it would be good for the rest of the SPL if Rangers went down to the Third Division? The answer has to be no.
“I don’t envy the people who have to make that decision. I can understand the hypocrisy of it but Rangers and Celtic are different.”
Rangers are different – no dispute about that, Ally. Celtic are different again, but if it is hypocritical and morally wrong to provide support for these clubs which has never been extended to a smaller club, we cannot subvert our sport – and remember, the word SPORT implies that outcomes are determined on a level playing field – Rangers must be treated no differently than Gretna.
And just one correction for Ally: liquidation-and-phoenix would not see Rangers drop to the Third Division. A Newco in the Third Division would not have dropped from anywhere, it would be a new company and new football team. Rangers would, in these circumstances, go pop!
One* team in Glasgow,
There’s only one team in Glasgow.
One team in Glasgow,
There’s only one team in Glasgow.
*excluding, juniors, youths, lower leagues, amateurs and Celtic Ladies.
Pop! And they’re gone!
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First win I saw against the huns was Brogie’s last minute header at CP – New Year ’72 – I think!
Had been to two before that but we had lost and drawn those
KoK,s chip remains a stand out as does The Evil Genius brushing off DeBoer to complete the whitewash!
Best memory at the hundome was back in the early 1990s
1-0 at HT – the entire Celtic End giving it the BOTOB big licks for the whole interval
The huns expected silence but we just had a ball GIRUT!
HH
Evening all
Just listening to a bit of Jellyroll whilst thinking about my favourite Glasgow Derby match and moments.
The four-two game On 21/5/79 was by far the best I was present at. Almost everything you could want from a match. Great goals, tremendous quality of actual play, drama worthy of Hitchcock and a finale – for me walking along the Gallowgate singing We are the Champions to the tune of Mary Hopkin’s Those Were The Days- I will never forgot.
But greatest memory?
Might just be JVoH in April 2008. I was in Brisbane way the game on t’net. And knowing we were going to do it.
God bless us . Sentimental tonight. I want us to win tomorrow. And sod them. Forever
H x 2
TET
Praise indeed!
Hope you and yours are well!
THEORIGINALSADIESBHOY 2159
A night and a half,that was!
I remember coming home a few sheets tae the wind-I was about fifteen-chips in one hand and a can in the other,thinking that nothing could ruin my happiness!
I got into the house just in time to discover that the highlights had been cancelled due to an industrial dispute!
B……S!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Philvis was right all along,they’re all a buncha leftie toerags……………..
Clashcitybhoy
I remember big Johan doing that, but it was after he’d joined Celtic. He had been out injured for a long time but got fit again in time to play for Sweden at Euro 2000 in Belgium-the Netherlands. He was magic and scored.
Not fast enough to do what Toni Kroos and Iker Muniain are doing today, though.
uplawmoor
A bit middle of no where-ish, though I haven’t been around that neck of the woods for years. so not 100% sure.
Eric
BMA
You get to your bed early tonight and keep yourself fresh for tomorrow
BT
Are you in with the prawn sandwich brigade tomorrow?
Jude,The penalty they missed was at the Celtic End. We scored 3 at their end.
C1st
Feel that I’m not doing credit to your post with such a short reply, however, I don’t often get the opportunity to watch Spanish or German football.
Although I have been disappointed at times with his attitude, I believe that, given the appropriate coaching, Kayal could be someone already in our midst who could play this role. The thing about this bhoy’s game that has most impressed me is his ability to read the game and anticipate where the next pass is going.
If he was playing in a more forward role this would enable us to prevent the opposition passing the ball out from the back but is this really necessary in Scottish football?
philbhoy
we all like to keep up with your woek habits…. p))
BMCUWP
Really enjoyed your posts tonight.
HH
Bobby Murdochs Ankle on 28 April, 2012 at 22:18 said:
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Terence great family friend, mamy a great memories with him from stopping 10 to the lowest of crying at the Raith Rovers game. A great Celt even if he stole my pool trophys. Yes Terry I still remember.
True celt
HH
or is that bigphil..
who? aw I should have stayed off the bev tonight..
Off topic
Mrs Maestro just turned channel to Charlies Angels movie as Cameron Diaz is swinging her hips. I can go to bed a happy man.
PC67
Was thinking of taking my horn, but may upset the people around me. Mini MM found it funny today with window down in Giffnock & honking at folk. You can take the man out of Paisley…
BT
You posting on your phone?
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Hamiltontim
Thanks for answering.
Is Kayal fast enough?
Philbhoy
All good thanks.
Got a feeling the game will be tasty tomorrow, I don’t think our bhoys will take their sh1te, the league is won, so cards won’t bother us, consign them to the sewer where they belong.
pedrocaravanachio67 on 28 April, 2012 at 22:20 said:
“good evening all.”
Good point, well made.
Your greeting, as quoted, is one of those with which no one could argue.
http://www.thepapalvisit.org.uk/2010-Visit/A-Retrospective-of-the-1982-Visit/Scotland/Scotland-Gallery/Pope-John-Paul-II-Scotland-19822
l remember this well met the Pope as he was leaving (was working at Bellahouston).
1982 the year l got married, went to uni,my mother died and l met the Pope. Some years you don’t forget.
MM
You need to take it….. if my brothers going to annoy you with his balloons, you can get him back with the horn…..the more noise tomorrow the better.
On a more serious note, can you all say some prayers for a young lad called Mark Hughes, a pupil at St Bridgits in Kilbirnie, who passed away on Thursday after a lengthy battle with cancer, he was 11.
PC67
parkheadc
Knew that. Whats ur take on the penalty. Who took it? Can still see it hit the left side of the goals. Could be wrong tho. Was wrong last year or was it the year b4?? lol
Our Bhoys are systematically going to take them apart tomorrow – bit by bit,piece by piece.
Ah well, I tried.
See you at Paradise bhoys and ghirls.
HH
Celtic First.
Interesting post.
If I remember correctly Scott Brown played in far more offensive position when we
defeated Spartak Moscow (think it was them) in Moscow to qualify for the champs
league.Broonie has the energy and team ethic required to harass defenders used
to stroking the ball around the back line taking their time, looking for a pass. Our captain could be just the man,unfortunately most teams in the SPL knock it long
from the back ie the huns tomorrow will lump it up to elbows,however the tactic you
mention could be useful in the CL qualifiers early next season.HH
AGENT CRAIG 2204
I remember that season well.
There were four of us would watch the games-three huns and my good self-alternating between houses.
No rules required-we’re all mates,we know how to behave.
Besides,between the three of them,they were five times the size of me,haha!
See when Motherwell equalised against them,that was the first time I knew I could dance…..
I danced round that telly cos I knew they were done,and THEY knew they were done.
Jee-zoh,it was sweet.
jude, thats the hotel we were looking at. other half can get us a free night there through her bank account, just wondered what the area was like as ive never heard of it.
enrico thanks for your info, to be honest we wont mind somewhere quiet
Tomtheleedstim.
Very sorry that I missed your post.
Are you still about?
TT
TET
I’d play a “big” side.
Don’t be bullied or intimidated.
Is big Tony Watt likely to feature
Great memories tonight of all the fav goals through the years. Always loved beating them and could even take it when they beat us being the better team.
But the last 4 years with the mibbery involved and all the cheating from the refs to save them.
Even looking back when they were doing the their tainted 9 , in the background of financial doping that we did not know at the time. These were really really hard times for a Celtic fan.
Tomorrow I will be at the game with my son and brother as usual and I pray it will be my last Glasgow Derby in the sense that I do not want to see them again.
If a newco arises let it, it will not be them.
We will have won the war.
Hail Hail
Pedro
Previous post may be puzzling…. I was careless when reading back ……. of course, the sentiment remains.
Malorbhoy,
You know I’m always bright an breezy, lookin forward to seein you tomorrow, oh an a rite good hunskelpin…………
Bma
jimbo67 on 28 April, 2012 at 22:35 said:
Same for me. Greatest I was present at was 10 men won the league.
Was student at the Uni then. Right behind the goal as Murdo buried it.
Walked back to town along the Gallowgate singing. Got the Daily Record to read all about it at Queens St station.
My greatest moment watching Celtic live.
Took my son up few years ago to his first Derby match the night wee Maloney scored.
C1st
I believe he is but he would require coaching.
Jude,
It was definitely Kai Johansen who took the penalty. He hit the bar and kicked the rebound. I was in the middle of the Hayshed (the Jungle to most) that night. Absolutely brilliant atmosphere. I think it was only beaten(for me) by the 5-1 New Year’s Day game of 1966(?), when we scored 5 in the second half kicking into the Celtic End, where I was, for one of the few times in my Celtic supporting life.
PB
No chance we will be bullied, as I said the players have nothing to fear.
Tony might be on the bench, Lenny will play his most experienced team, he will want to skelp them as much as we do.
I Lenny I trust.
HH
TET
……in the mib I don’t!
Ach, ye never know!
Nite U all. Going to mass at 3 tomorrow at the Little Sisters in Royston so ill miss the last part of the game. But the Sisters are brill at keeping me up to date as they have in the past. 6 nil at HT will ease my concern. lol
LSOTP are 100 years old this year. My 2 cousins joined them over 45 years ago. Royston is like a 5* hotel and the care is 5* as well!!