Morals and hypocrisy, McCoist nails it, then asks you to bend over

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Do you remember the early days of Celtic Quick News when one wit suggested this was a blog for accountants?  Our early years did a great deal to bring a wider understanding of accounts and finance to Celtic fans – which was a good thing.

Today your fan of Scottish football needs to know about more than the game and amortisation, a semester or two in law school is an enormous advantage.  We touch on legal matters here but last night I enjoyed reading the forensic analysis on the wonderful Duff and Phelps on the Web 3D Law blog.  It’s worth 10 minutes of your day, each day, the most recent blog especially.  I also assume you are all keeping an eye on the substantial thoughts on Paul McConville’s blog.  If not, I want to know why.

So much for accounts and the law, today I want to discuss philosophy with you.

When football-types talk about morality and hypocrisy they are usually worth listening to, if only for comedic value.  Anyone experiencing the Scottish media will not doubt that morality is subjective and chameleon in nature.  This question has exercised great minds for centuries, if only they had the benefit of our effervescent radio luminaries.
Despite being metaphorically surrounded by morally opportunistic hypocrites, Ally McCoist felt so secure in his demands for Rangers that he didn’t dodge the issue yesterday.

When asked if Rangers should be kicked out of the SPL he accepted it “might be the right thing to do morally and people will have their own opinions on it, with differences far and varied.

“There’s an argument the right thing to do is for Rangers to go down to the Third Division and that might be the case if it’s a Newco after liquidation.

“But is it the correct thing to do for Scottish football?  Probably not. Everybody’s got a dilemma and that’s why there are so many opinions on it.

“Whether people like it or not, Rangers and Celtic are different because of the size and magnitude of the two clubs.

“Supporters of other clubs and some Old Firm supporters say you can’t have rules for some clubs and not for others.

“In an ideal world, that would be 100 per cent correct. I would absolutely and totally agree with that.

“But the fact of the matter is we’re asking if it would be good for the rest of the SPL if Rangers went down to the Third Division? The answer has to be no.

“I don’t envy the people who have to make that decision. I can understand the hypocrisy of it but Rangers and Celtic are different.”

Rangers are different – no dispute about that, Ally.  Celtic are different again, but if it is hypocritical and morally wrong to provide support for these clubs which has never been extended to a smaller club, we cannot subvert our sport – and remember, the word SPORT implies that outcomes are determined on a level playing field – Rangers must be treated no differently than Gretna.

And just one correction for Ally: liquidation-and-phoenix would not see Rangers drop to the Third Division.  A Newco in the Third Division would not have dropped from anywhere, it would be a new company and new football team.  Rangers would, in these circumstances, go pop!

One* team in Glasgow,
There’s only one team in Glasgow.
One team in Glasgow,
There’s only one team in Glasgow.

*excluding, juniors, youths, lower leagues, amateurs and Celtic Ladies.

Pop!  And they’re gone!

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  1. Celticbhoy

     

     

    Tis a funny blog at times.

     

    Sometimes you are inundated with replies and personally being old and infirm when it comes to computers, and in all honesty in life as well, I can’t get around to replying to them all, just the way it is, other times nobody replies at all, it’s either a feast or a famine.

     

     

    Many times I want to reply to posters and just when I get around to doing it, the wife has me doing something, or the dogs are going mental outside, or the best of all. I get an order and someone has deposited a few bob into my bank account and I need to get that sorted.

     

     

    Anyways, a win in the last ever derby will do for me, and she who must be obeyed has just informed me, no car boot sale in the morning, thanl feck for that.

     

    HH

  2. jude2005 is Neil Lennon \o/ on

    Beware 2 morro they will be hurting bad bad on and off the park!! Nowt more dangerous than an injured animal!!

     

     

    Night U All.

  3. Enrico Dandolo nicked my Crusade on

    Jingle bells, Jingle bells, Jingle all the way

     

    Oh it’s good to beat the Hearts on New Years day! :))))

     

     

    Eric

  4. Googybhoy

     

     

    Comments on Radio Nacional de España said that the farewell Raúl received from the crowd in Gelsenkirchen today, after two years at Schalke, put the Real Madrid crowd, in front of whom he played for 16 years, to shame. They hardly gave any response when he left in 2010.

  5. Celtic Champs Elect on

    hey bhoys doing that old hospitality shi* in the morning pick up at 10.20 suited and booted if any cqns in the walfrid suite give me a holler grey coat grey strides pink shirt and bruno magli grey shoes canny wait will be the last ever game against them the big hoose is about to shut for good from a very reliable and always on the money source.

  6. googybhoy ♥ Celtic and Integrity on 28 April, 2012 at 23:21 said:

     

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    Agree, most of their matches I see on ESPN are always sellouts, cut the prices and make it more affordable for the fans.

     

     

    HH

  7. CB

     

    Good call but i’m sure the GB will have a few wee

     

    ditties ready for the occasion.

     

    I for one am going to sing my head off from start

     

    to finish.

  8. BMCUWP

     

     

    thanks mate we are gonna try and book that one as her freebie. uplamwoor here we come lol

  9. NatKnow - "We welcome the paper-chase..." on

    Don’t ask why, but I was thinking about the (1989?) 5-4 game against Partizan Belgrade in the European Cup Winners Cup which I attended and (for understandable reasons) stuck in my head. I was wondering what became of Jackie. Turns out there’s a Dariusz Dziekanowski Wiki and the best line sure has to be :

     

     

    “He also had a minor career in archery, in 1988.”

     

     

    WTF?!

  10. Sitting watching Suarez scoring his hattrick against Norwich again, 3 cracking goals. Thinking of going down for the Norwich game , is anyone else going down?

     

     

    HH

  11. Celtic Champs Elect on 28 April, 2012 at 23:26 said:

     

     

     

    hey bhoys doing that old hospitality shi* in the morning pick up at 10.20 suited and booted if any cqns in the walfrid suite give me a holler grey coat grey strides pink shirt and bruno magli grey shoes canny wait will be the last ever game against them the big hoose is about to shut for good from a very reliable and always on the money source.

     

     

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    You’re either Huggy Bear or a pimp!! :-))))

  12. THE EXILED TIM on 28 April, 2012 at 23:23 said:

     

     

    “The dogs going mental outside”

     

     

    Are you sure you are in a hun free zone ?

  13. Bobby Murdochs Ankle on

    Jude,

     

     

    She will know Mother Isabel, when she retires to Gods own county, I might drop in and say hello.

     

     

    Bma

  14. Celtic Champs Elect on

    hamiltontim on 28 April, 2012 at 23:30 said:

     

     

     

    Celtic Champs Elect on 28 April, 2012 at 23:26 said:

     

     

    hey bhoys doing that old hospitality shi* in the morning pick up at 10.20 suited and booted if any cqns in the walfrid suite give me a holler grey coat grey strides pink shirt and bruno magli grey shoes canny wait will be the last ever game against them the big hoose is about to shut for good from a very reliable and always on the money source.

     

     

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    You’re either Huggy Bear or a pimp!! :-))))

     

     

    no bud just a snappy dresser :-)) come over and say hi if you are in there

  15. kevin hughes on 28 April, 2012 at 22:48 said:

     

    ”jude, thats the hotel we were looking at. other half can get us a free night there through her bank account, just wondered what the area was like as ive never heard of it.”

     

     

    Uplawmoor?

     

     

    It’s alway put me in mind of the sort of places Richmal Crompton, Enid Blyton and John Betjeman wrote about.

     

     

    Kind of 1930s Home Counties England.

  16. Agent Craig “Green and” Whyte!!

     

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    I have been singing the Vera song along with the one l mentioned too. l am looking forward to belting them out tomorrow

  17. I would Really, really, really love the Scotland shame banner to make an appearance tomorrow.

     

    I have never seen it since that glasgow derby game in 2008, did it get confisgated, looked like it where I was sitting.

     

     

    HH

  18. BOBBY MURDOCH'S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS on

    GOOGYBHOY 2303

     

     

    Haha,I’m not getting involved in that one after my misfired attempt at being funny re the spelling of dukenfield(?)

     

     

    As in,if you canny spell it,how are you gonna find it in an A-Z?

     

     

    Ouch,that one came back on me a bit…….

  19. Now listening ti Quadrophenia. Is that allowed?

     

     

    I have so many memories of the derby matches. I remember the Dallas game in 99 when I was there with my beloved Jac and my eyes deceived me .

     

     

    I want them finished. I love us and appreciate what a part of our history they are . All those great games. I remember how horrible they are. Neil and your Bhoys go on and finish them. I’ve had too much too drink tonight but I am sober when it comes to them

     

     

    H x 2

     

     

    Jimbo

  20. Hamiltontim – read your post from last week – think of your dad tomorrow when the bhoys run out – sure he is looking down on you and proud of who you are.

     

    VP gave you advice last week – mints on a monday morning to disguise the beer breath – best bit of advice I was ever given when I started working – mints say you have been on the lash – get some lockets or tunes down you, everybody thinks you have manflu(lots of sympathy).!!!

  21. TET

     

     

    Know what you mean about a feast or a famine regarding responses to posts.

     

     

    I often find that if I post during the day on a week day I rarely get a reply but I think that’s fair enough, many of the posters have been here for years and either know each other or are accustomed and comfortable with the other posters or are just way too intelligent for me!!

  22. reilly1926

     

     

    For sure, no huns here.

     

     

    The dogs are a slight failing on my part, 3 of them are as obedient as anything, but the youngest one is as daft as a brush, he tries to impress the others with his alertness, then they start barking as well, I am getting there, but it’s hard to implant something into a thick dog, a bit like having a hun around I suppose :>)

  23. Been in Edinburgh today for a few beers – now back in EK. How did the Hampden March go………

  24. BOBBY MURDOCH’S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS on 28 April, 2012 at 23:38said:

     

     

     

    I know you had a traumatic experience with a duck in a field.

     

    Do you want to talk about it?

     

    Perhaps you need counselling?

     

     

    Sounds like a Sopranos moment?

  25. kelvinbhoy

     

     

    Thanks for your kind words.

     

     

    Ach I’m sure he’ll be watching and hoping and praying, in fact I know he will!

     

     

    Very rarely have a drink on a Sunday because of that very reason, I’d end uo spending as much on mints and tunes as I do on booze!! :-)

  26. BOBBY MURDOCH'S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS on

    celticbhoy

     

     

    Trust me,it happens.

     

     

    You can post the most brilliant piece of insightful insightfulness ever seen,and we will be in the middle of a poppy debate,a songs debate,or a frankly nothing debate.

     

     

    Equally,you can spout unadulterated pash,as I have tonight,and be indulged.

     

     

    As THE EXILED TIM would say….

     

     

    Tis a strange world.

     

     

    Keep posting,and KTF.

  27. Is nuneaton st ok to PARK THE CAR TO.MORROW.AND WERE DO THE RANGERS SUPPORTERS BUSES PARK .I JUST WANT TO AVOID THEM COMING OUT AFTER TOYHE GAME .J

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