Do you remember the early days of Celtic Quick News when one wit suggested this was a blog for accountants? Our early years did a great deal to bring a wider understanding of accounts and finance to Celtic fans – which was a good thing.
Today your fan of Scottish football needs to know about more than the game and amortisation, a semester or two in law school is an enormous advantage. We touch on legal matters here but last night I enjoyed reading the forensic analysis on the wonderful Duff and Phelps on the Web 3D Law blog. It’s worth 10 minutes of your day, each day, the most recent blog especially. I also assume you are all keeping an eye on the substantial thoughts on Paul McConville’s blog. If not, I want to know why.
So much for accounts and the law, today I want to discuss philosophy with you.
When football-types talk about morality and hypocrisy they are usually worth listening to, if only for comedic value. Anyone experiencing the Scottish media will not doubt that morality is subjective and chameleon in nature. This question has exercised great minds for centuries, if only they had the benefit of our effervescent radio luminaries.
Despite being metaphorically surrounded by morally opportunistic hypocrites, Ally McCoist felt so secure in his demands for Rangers that he didn’t dodge the issue yesterday.
When asked if Rangers should be kicked out of the SPL he accepted it “might be the right thing to do morally and people will have their own opinions on it, with differences far and varied.
“There’s an argument the right thing to do is for Rangers to go down to the Third Division and that might be the case if it’s a Newco after liquidation.
“But is it the correct thing to do for Scottish football? Probably not. Everybody’s got a dilemma and that’s why there are so many opinions on it.
“Whether people like it or not, Rangers and Celtic are different because of the size and magnitude of the two clubs.
“Supporters of other clubs and some Old Firm supporters say you can’t have rules for some clubs and not for others.
“In an ideal world, that would be 100 per cent correct. I would absolutely and totally agree with that.
“But the fact of the matter is we’re asking if it would be good for the rest of the SPL if Rangers went down to the Third Division? The answer has to be no.
“I don’t envy the people who have to make that decision. I can understand the hypocrisy of it but Rangers and Celtic are different.”
Rangers are different – no dispute about that, Ally. Celtic are different again, but if it is hypocritical and morally wrong to provide support for these clubs which has never been extended to a smaller club, we cannot subvert our sport – and remember, the word SPORT implies that outcomes are determined on a level playing field – Rangers must be treated no differently than Gretna.
And just one correction for Ally: liquidation-and-phoenix would not see Rangers drop to the Third Division. A Newco in the Third Division would not have dropped from anywhere, it would be a new company and new football team. Rangers would, in these circumstances, go pop!
One* team in Glasgow,
There’s only one team in Glasgow.
One team in Glasgow,
There’s only one team in Glasgow.
*excluding, juniors, youths, lower leagues, amateurs and Celtic Ladies.
Pop! And they’re gone!
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THE EXILED TIM @ 17:36
I like the look of that summer!
especially Ireland in the Euros final!!!!!
COME ON YOU BOYS IN GREEN!!!!!
BT
I missed my chance MWD offered me a ticket and I had to decline due to prior arrangements. These plans have just been scuppered so bit gutted that I could have gone but don’t have a ticket now!!
My dear,dear,dear,friend.. MightyWhite
Pinkety ,Pinkety,Pally~
Kojo
yer pal…who likes ye.. already
Still,Laughin’
To those hankering after the fabled CQN badge I can confirm the die-cast wee beauties are the bestest badges in this or probably any other world/dimension. Affixed, in the general area of the left nipple, to a plain polo shirt they kick the bum off a Lacoste/Lauren/Primark/insert your branded polo shirt here.
And buying one helps a good cause. It’s a win/win/win.
hangover free tomorrow then HT
Dan
For all I admire Paddy, it’s difficult to imagine him playing wingback for 90 mins. The reason I’d put him in the middle is because what I saw from him and Joe last week was better than what I’ve seen from Joe and Vic. My hope is that Vic is given the CB role more often, and more will start to see he is best placed there.
Kojo
Cup o’Joe middy – like it.
I’m sure a few of you wordsmiths can do a better job with this:
Goodbye to you, my cheating friend.
You tried to beat our nine with ten.
You dodged your taxes and NIEs,
Took your hatred overseas,
screwed the Queen, ignored her fees.
Goodbye my friend, it’s hard to die,
But time has come to stop the lie.
Now that the spring is in the air,
Honest Tims are everywhere.
When you see them I’ll be there.
You had joy, you had fun, you had seasons in the sun.
But those days have all gone
Yet even now you see no wrong.
Goodbye, Sir Walt, please think of me,
when you preach about your dignity.
We tried to teach you right from wrong.
Too much hatred in your song,
wonder how you got along.
Goodbye, fat Al, it’s hard to die
When all the Tims are singing in the sky,
Now that the spring is in the air.
Little Hector’s everywhere.
When you see him we’ll be there.
You had joy, you had fun, you had seasons in the sun.
But the flutes and the song,
like your titles, have all gone.
Goodbye, Sir Mint, you dirty hun.
You bought the Record and the Sun.
But when the Gers were really down
you tried to hawk them all around
Sold the lot for just a pound .
Goodbye rangers, I’m glad you’ll die
Yet refs and linesmen still try to lie,
Now that the spring is in the air.
There’s smiling Tims ev’rywhere.
I’m so glad you won’t be there.
You had joy, you had fun, you had seasons in the sun.
But your team has all gone
And its time to move along.
thomthethim on 28 April, 2012 at 16:42 said:
This week’s utterings from the remnants of Ibrox, McCoist and Jardine, should put an end to any further talk of “the good of the game”.
I received a text today from a former respected poster, quoting a reliable source who said that not only are they going to be liquidated, but are also going to be expelledfromScottish football.
Perhaps this is what O.G. Was hinting at recently..
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Like many others on here,I’ve hypothesised,guessed and hoped over the last few years as to when they will go the way of all flesh.
I’ve even surmised.ffs,something that I rarely do.
For much of that time,I was told by better minds than my own,that I was talkin,’erm,nonsense
2004-2012. My own little watch on them,with a heads up from the petrol money comment about one of the De Boers in 2000.
Frankly I do not give a stuff for being right or wrong in this case,or being ahead or behind the curve.
That is irrelevant.
Shortly,so will they be.
HALLELUIA!
navanbhoy
We are allowed to dream mi amigo :>)))
BT
Ha ha ha ha unlikely!!
Der Orcs are the Al Megrahi of football.
My dear,dear,dear,friend.. Don’tBratt..etc..
Is he?
Ah know a … Tom McKelvey.. we called him, “Tich”
oan account of his Small Stature.. He went tae. Holy Cross..
Ah wonder??
Any relation tae The Battered Bunnet..? Mebbe, his Dad???
Kojo
yer pal..who likes ye aloater.
Traynor has just said that the Bloo Nighties have only raised £1.5m cash, dearie me.
Ragers fans march to Hampden
No sniggering at the back CSC
roy croppie on 28 April, 2012 at 17:47 said:
Traynor has just said that the Bloo Nighties have only raised £1.5m cash, dearie me.
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Tut tut,loast mer runnin for a bus.
Irelan v Spain Final : no more than we deserve after having to endure Rankers deathwatch.
celticrollercoaster
you have email.
Off out for the night now so hope to catch up with you tomorrow
I wish I could type…….IrelanD.
The hun hoards were on BBC News doing the bouncy. They also seem to think that the SFA sanctions will cause jobs to be lost – unlike not paying your bills presumably. That can’t at all cause job losses amongst the many many companies they have failed to pay.
Just a thought……..
The hun have acknowledged, and paid some of the wee tax case….yes
The wee tax case was for EBT’s, or some other tax scam for De Boor etc…yes
Why therfore, have they not been found guilty of cheating during this period ???
Confused so I am.
Banners say.
Sanctions Costs Jobs.
So does not paying your creditors!!! Ya bunch of weasels!! Sorry weasels
Traynor and English, for some bizarre reason, firing full steam ahead with the 3rd division and under-18 rfc newco team idea
happy days
pass the jelly, please
:)
Dropping van off in Castlemilk today,missus
picked me up in car and decides she want’s
something from the town(weegieland)
drove down mt florida” oh hits the manky mob are doon here,been held up on school
run longer.
Was someone selling soap?
Paul67
Philospohically a sign of maturity is the acceptance of responsibilty.
That we are dealing with a spoiled wean who is in the midst of a tantrum is now obvious.
For the wean to mature it needs to be denied the protection it has enjoyed and kept it as a spoiled brat.
Watching events unfold each day is like the seven veils of suspected skullduggery being ripped away to reveal much more sinister than skullduggery, something that society is beginning to think is simply not worth preserving.
The extent of the rot marched on Hampden for the world to see.
I think they should be applauded for their stupidity.
TET
I dunno, I think same old story, spl sfa don’t want to deliver the death blow. They want the BTC first, so they can say they had no choice and were only applying the penalties as fixed.
Imagine the threats those known faces from sfa/spl will face once they are expelled?
HamiltonCSC
They watched last years semi final in Oscar Wilde Irish
Sumdae mentioned how Danny had to move over for sardine. Like Caeser had to move over for mc skinnon. Both shocking!!
VP
if someone was selling soap they would be running in the opposite direction… o))
I’m a bit out of sorts. I was in the boozer and went up to the bar and the peanuts started talking to me. They said I was looking well and dapper. Then I went over to buy some fags and the machine said I was an ugly get and had no talent.
Confused, I returned to the bar and asked the barmaid what was going on.
She said, don’t worry, the peanuts are complimentary but the cigarette machine are out of order.
CoatonandcarstartedCSC
Whoevah this , Tom McKelvey..be
Ah like his Style. Fur He thinks Like Me.
Kojo
Still. Laughin’
Bang on Paul67!
The huns stole at least £140 million of other peoples money to finance their on the park cheating. However, the same logic and in house MIB protection racket does not extrapolate to off the park cheating. But being of uniform malignant type personalities they are now threatening “to take a few with them” as they are ploughed asunder for not paying their debts.
We all know who Sandy Jardine is referring to.
What happens when you dont pay the piper? Its time these rats were drowned.
No to Newco. No to any more cheating and hopefully its their swan song is tomorrow.
up_over_goal on 28 April, 2012 at 17:43 said:
Fair point about Paddy, perhaps the wing back role is beyond him. Although he did play midfield in the 2 nil victory at their midden when big Sammy scored a brace.
Regarding big Vic. Although he has had some very good displays at CB, I think his best position is centre of midfield. I see him developing in to a top class midfielder if he continues to develop the way he has this season. Also although in the last few months in midfield he has lost a bit of form, I would love to see him in the middle of the park tomorrow. Mostly for his strength, but also for his composure on the ball and under pressure.
I think if we have the right balance in the middle of the park, and get off to a good start, we could see something very special tomorrow.
HH Dan
Surely any sympathy there might be towards them from any neutrals will evaporate once the scale of their cheating becomes public?
“We know we cheated in every game for over ten years – but it wouldn’t be in the best interests of the game to punish us.”
Thats 4 times ive read War in Peace waiting for this bunch to fold!! Think ill take up knitting.
My dear,dear,dear,dear,dear,dear,dear,dear,dear,dear,dear,dear, dear friend… Big Joe
hiya palomine…. pal o mineo.
the chat o the steamie is Whyte is and always hus been the only show at the big tap.
awe the ither paper trash iz jist that, paper trash tae throw a guid light on a smelly ……
its guid tae hiv ye back on da blog efter yer latest excursion. Yer timing is definitely timely and the wise old clock aholic, The Swinging Detective his definitely missed yer submissions tae this sainted blog.
Kojak
yer pal who likes ye mair and mairer every time ye submit yer unique and uplifting submissions.
maks sense tae us.
Someone tell this eejit that the punishmet set out was actually expulsion.
Georgios Samaras, Scott Brown, Kelvin Wilson and Glenn Loovens return to the Celtic squad for Sunday’s clash with Rangers at Parkhead.
Neil Lennon chose to rest some of his star players for the trip to Motherwell last week but will bring them back for the last Old Firm game of the season.
Celtic midfielder Ki Sung-yueng (hamstring) and James Forrest (ankle) are out but right-back Adam Matthews returns from illness and Beram Kayal, who has recovered fully from his ankle injury, could be included in the squad.
Celtic squad: Forster, Cha, Matthews, Rogne, Mulgrew, Izaguirre, Loovens, K Wilson, Kayal, Brown, Commons, Samaras, Wanyama, Ledley, Brozek, Hooper, Zaluska, Stokes, Bangura, Blackman, Lustig, McCourt, Watt
My team for tomorrow would be
Forster, and a 3 man central defence of Loovens, Rogne and Mulgrew
Central midfield of Brown, Wanyama and Ledley,………… McGeouch wide right and Izzy wide left
Sammy with a roving role to create havoc, with Stokes as lone striker
Is it easy to remove names from silverware??