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More worrying than the result

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I know we had nothing up front, but Odsonne Edouard has looked more of a passenger in some games this season than Patryk Klimala and Moi Elyounoussi this afternoon.  The game was lost elsewhere.

Newco’s shape allowed them to dominate space whenever we had possession.  They were able to swiftly double up on Jeremie Frimpong and Diego Laxalt when the ball went wide, while they were compact enough in the middle of the field to keep Celtic from penetrating their final third.

Games are won and lost on mistakes and yet again we are talking about the defensive line at set pieces.  Connor Goldson’s ploy of standing offsite in the hope that a defender would break the line and play him on, was not subtle, but it was effective.  It was an excellent cross from the free kick (which wasn’t a free kick, but no excuses), Duffy was an enabler and Valarie Barkas could have done better.  Questions remain for both.

Culpability was less clear at the second goal, which was well worked.  With so many Celtic players in the box, you would expect one to get in the way of the drilled cross, but it fell to Goldson; teams who create chances get these breaks.  It was a deserved goal (again, no excuses, but the handball!).

The last time we dominated Newco was two years ago in a 1-0 win at Celtic Park when Olivier Ntcham controlled the game and scored the winner.  Stephen Gerrard learned from that day as Olivier has not had a sniff against them since.

Being ineffective up front and shaky at the back are worries enough, but the biggest concern is that we were unable to do anything to change the flow of the game.  An inability to control the any part of the game is more worrying than poor defending or not attacking.  It is more worrying than the result.

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  1. £3m for Turnbull 🤔

     

    What was the point in chasing this boy for over a year

     

    Our goalie isn’t on form so far any better than what we had

  2. fairhill bhoy on 17th October 2020 8:25 pm

     

     

    Anyway Blue Bloods is definitely the best cop show since law and order🤷‍♀️

     

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    The Wire

     

    The Shield

     

    True Detective

     

    Southland

     

    Bosch

     

    Banshee (it has cops in it :O)

  3. lets all do the huddle on

    sell those who he said dont wanna be here and be done with it

     

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    and those who arent good enough

  4. Would John Terry not be a good appointment,after all he has played under some Managers while at Chelsea,or has he just not got it as first team coach

  5. Big Wavy

     

    I agree with a lot of that, so where should ntcham play? And on what possible occasion does he ever contribute more than our captain? Point me to any game that happened.

  6. DANSO_1888 on 17TH OCTOBER 2020 8:24 PM

     

     

    any one if sevco a playing fair well south african judge thought their chairman was untrustwothy plus they been buying does any one if they are on the level skippy is a scouser so would not take his word.

     

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    OK, a gee in.

  7. glendalystonsils on

    What is happening inside CP/Lennoxtown to create so many supposedly unhappy players? Why is so much cash being spent on players who don’t play? Why are we not nearly as well prepared to write history as we should be in this of all seasons?

     

     

    Answers on the back of a golf scorecard.

  8. Re Nycham.

     

     

    He is most of the time a dud.

     

     

    He is good not near often enough for me.

     

     

    Can we sue Man Citeh?

  9. Not winning the league this year will do a lot more damage than not doing the ten. We’ll go into next year with Ajer, Christie, Eddie & Ntcham moving on. We’ll likely see Laxalt, Duffy and Moi move on.

     

     

    We’ll have a major rebuild with very limited funds. The hun will be two qualifying rounds away from £30 million.

     

     

    Lose the league this year and the generation of domination is lost.

  10. Lots of ifs, buts and maybes being expressed.

     

    My gut feeling is NFL will be allowed to stay for the season. PL will not sack him.

     

    My gut also says that there is a disconnect between the players and the manager and the coaches. Game after game there is precious little inspiration being offered from the touchline. HTs come and go without any indication of a dressing room mauling leading to an attitude transformation.

     

    We are no longer the best team in Scotland.

     

    Whether that is still the case one, three or six months from now is up to DD and PL.

     

    I don’t think they will do anything.

     

    Gutted.

  11. glendalystonsils on 17th October 2020 8:37 pm

     

     

    Start at the top. Lawwell appointed Lennon. Lennon can’t coach. I suspect the players don’t rate Lenny and from that we have attitude problems and lack of application.

     

     

    Griff not being fit for the start of the season, Boli flying off to Spain, it reeks of a lack of leadership.

  12. lets all do the huddle on

    Lose the league this year and the generation of domination is lost.

     

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    i fear that is true

     

     

    these things are always cyclical but will still be shite when and if it happens and will have a serious knock on effect on revenue

  13. Remember being in the pub , celebrating winning the Scottish cup then Lenny anounced as manager full time, majority of us were gutted.

  14. DENIABHOY

     

    My gut also says that there is a disconnect between the players and the manager and the coaches. Game after game there is precious little inspiration being offered from the touchline. HTs come and go without any indication of a dressing room mauling leading to an attitude transformation.

     

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    It appears loads on here think exactly that, including me.

     

     

    But Lennon’s bosses don’t see it.

     

     

    Any idea why?

  15. I honestly believe we are a poorer team with Barkas and Duffy , also instead of playing with a defensive midfielder in front of the back 3 we should be playing julien behind the back 3 playing as a sweeper and moping up anything that gets by the defensive line.

  16. glendalystonsils on

    DENIABHOY

     

     

    There’s certainly a disconnect , underlined by the managers comments after the Copenhagen game .

     

    He seems to have lost at least some of the dressing room and we don’t look like a team with a common purpose. I’m not confident we can mend it on the hoof but do we stick or twist?

  17. If DD decided to sell all his shares,who out there could has the money to buy them,Surely there must be lot off Good Celtic Business Men ie Supporters could get together and buy out DD and a few Directors ,as to allow the club to go forward,also PL has done a decent job but maybe it’s time for him to be replaced.

  18. TIMMY7_NOTED on 17TH OCTOBER 2020 8:33 PM

     

    Big Wavy

     

    I agree with a lot of that, so where should ntcham play? And on what possible occasion does he ever contribute more than our captain? Point me to any game that happened.

     

     

     

     

    Have you read Paul’s article? He was a standout in that game.

     

     

    There’s plenty of data out there to prove Ntcham’s consistency (CelticbyNumbers..) if you’re really interested but he gets labelled as the biased eyes of our support look for different things. Liking Ntcham doesn;t mean I have to hate Scott. He’s a victim of an undefined role in the midlfield as much as everyone else.

  19. lets all do the huddle on

    lets not forget the traitor dermot desmond and biging up sevco

     

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    i wouldnt get too hung up on that in relation to our recent performances against sevco

     

     

    we have had much more money than them and apparantly better players yet we have been shite against them the last few games

     

     

    manager, coaching staff and players are to blame for that

     

     

    the DD discussion is a side show

  20. No Bobby Does It Petta on

    ST TAMS

     

     

    Re Julien, strange indeed. See my earlier comment re him and ACSOM.

     

     

    Some folk never seem to see what’s right in front of them.

  21. TICKETBUS-we all were.And james Forrest was up wasn’t slow in letting us know his thoughts 😉

     

    Kinda being proved right

  22. December 28 2018 in what fraudgers assumed was his last game we had only 1 shot on goal and after the game our manager stated that injured players and ones that did play unfit were part of our problem, nothing tae dae with his tactics.

     

     

    BTW how about John Kennedy as manager and Broonie assistant/player manager with WGS mentoring them.