Motherwell may hold casting vote

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St Johnstone (through manager Steve Lomas) and Kilmarnock, through Rangers supporter (literal sense) Michael Johnston, have both declared their vote to allow a Newco to take Rangers place in the SPL next season.  Celtic will vote against and Dundee United appear open to persuasion.  The next most important team in the country is Motherwell.

Motherwell, alongside Celtic, Dundee United and St Johnstone have a place on the SPL board.  They are migrating towards ownership and control by a large number of small supporter-shareholders, they’ve benefited from Rangers demise and in July will feature in the Champions League qualification draw, broadcast live from Monaco.

On the downside, despite their on-field success this season, the club will have to trim football budget for the coming season as Champions League qualifying money does not make up for earning less from cup runs this season and inflation pushing costs up.

Motherwell fans seemed to enjoy their visit to Ibrox on Saturday but does anyone expect them to vote against Rangers?

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  1. the meeting couldn’t have been finalised anyways without all member clubs having a vote.

  2. David Hillier ‏ @DavidHillier

     

    The delay in SPL meeting till 30th leaves Newco sanctions at discretion of board. Allows BM to continue private negotiations.

  3. Paul – MTH ‏ @MTHForum

     

    Rangers weren’t at the meeting as they were compiling the NewCo, this much is evident. With Doncaster’s help this will be a smooth ride

  4. Yes folks, the cheating goes on,…..nothing to see here..

     

     

    absolutely scunnered wae all this.

  5. theglasgowcelticway on

    SOT

     

    I was going to join a procrastination society,but I thought,”I’ll do it tomorrow.”

  6. Eugene ‏ @the_eriugena

     

    Rangers don’t have the cash to survive until 30th and big tax case should be decided by then too. Seems #SPL vote now largely irrelevant.

  7. Ghuys

     

    So Duff £ Phelps never even turned-up, nice way to win friends, totally unprofessional. I suspect Duff & Phelps did not want a grilling on just exactly where they are with this takeover garbage…….. 30th May 2012 , the day the cash runs out at Ipox…..

     

     

    Looks to me as though all the football authorities are too canny to switch off the life support machine and the FTT judges can also take as long as they like….. the patient will die eventually of natural cause (i.e. no cash).

     

     

    Still hopefully, the FTT case lands next week, as another 3 weeks of CFC proposed resignations, SFL3 applications, season books not being renewed argument is too much to take.

     

     

    Chillpillcfc

  8. charles kickham on

    Quite simple – if they do not have enough information to make a decision – i likewise do not have enough information on whether i should renew my season ticket ( both of them )

  9. Enough is enough if they cant even be bothered turning up they really are extracting the urine time for unilateral action and ban them forthwith its becoming a laughing stock

  10. The Spirit of Arthur Lee on

    So it took to 3pm for somebody to realise that the huns were missing

     

     

    Feckin brilliant

  11. Maybe they’d allow Celtic two votes, you know, seeing as they are the only representative present from the Old F…….

     

     

    Maybe not.

  12. Decision postponed – not surprising & not (in my opinion) suspicious.

     

     

    The RFCIA situation is NOT at its end – not nearly so. Much water to flow under that particular bridge.

     

     

    The regulations in respect of the SPL share & the rules which apply to its transfer & the SFA membership criteria all remain in place and are big, big obstacles for D&P and Newco.

     

     

    The postponement is not significant either way.

  13. charles kickham on

    theglasgowcelticway on 7 May, 2012 at 15:37 said:

     

     

    SOT

     

    I was going to join a procrastination society,but I thought,”I’ll do it tomorrow.”

     

     

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    thought it was the indecisive society

  14. Lads surely now that other fans are against a newco can we not get a meeting organised between each club to put pressure on their chairmen.

     

     

     

    TheBlackKnightTBK ‏ @THE_TBK

     

    @BroganRoganTrev Arab Trust interesting read too. Are support groups galvanising? http://www.arabtrust.co.uk/about/about-us.aspx

  15. coorslad on 7 May, 2012 at 15:37 said:

     

     

    fair play to the lad – great news

     

     

     

    back to today – season ticket renewals are out at the minute – how are the clubs selling these to the fans?

     

     

    i know we do books with and without them – what about other clubs?

  16. Auld Neil Lennon heid on

    Lostinbonnybridge is Neil Lennon. Get well Stan Petrov on 7 May, 2012 at 15:22 said:

     

     

     

    Chris McLaughlin ‏ @BBCchrismclaug

     

    Dunfermline chairman John Yorkston says not enough info to make a decision. #SPL

     

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    Of course there is’nt all they have is rhetoric.

     

     

    No decision should be taken without a proper risk analysis that provides an estimate of the cost to the SPL as a whole and how that falls on each club.

     

    Then alternatives should be examined to see what can be done to reduce those costs.

     

    Allowiing Newco in should be the last option not the first.

  17. Apparently the fixtures last season were announced on June 17th.

     

     

    This farcical postponement is just smoke and mirrors to give the illusion of a process taking place. The decision has already clearly been made – The SPL is just trying to find a way to announce it.

  18. Let’s hear something Celtic.

     

    It’s a bad day when discredited BBC ‘journalists’ say they are speaking for us.

     

    The fans deserve to hear something especially at renewal time.

  19. Statement from the Board of the Celtic

     

    Trust

     

    Over recent days there has been much

     

    discussion amongst Celtic supporters,

     

    (indeed amongst all football

     

    supporters,) about the implications of

     

    the present situation of Rangers FC Plc

     

    (in administration) and how this will

     

    impact on the future of the SPL.

     

    Some Celtic supporters have expressed

     

    disquiet that the various organisations

     

    representing the Celtic support have not

     

    publicly responded to recent events.

     

    However, we would like to reassure

     

    Trust members that the Trust Board has

     

    been monitoring the situation closely

     

    and has been actively involved in

     

    developing strategies to meet future

     

    situations. Over the past two weeks we

     

    have:

     

    · Held discussions with other Celtic

     

    supporter organisations to devise a joint

     

    response.

     

    · Been a signatory to a letter sent

     

    from all the Celtic Supporter

     

    organisations to the Chairpersons of all

     

    SPL Clubs and to Neil Doncaster Chief

     

    Executive of the SPL, prior to the

     

    meeting at Hampden last Monday

     

    stressing that sporting integrity must be

     

    paramount in any decision made.

     

    · Had two meetings with the Celtic

     

    Chief Executive at which we have

     

    conveyed to him the very strong feelings

     

    being expressed by the support

     

    · Been invited to meet with Neil

     

    Doncaster and this meeting will take

     

    place on the first available date which is

     

    Tuesday 8th May.

     

    Be assured that we will continue to

     

    monitor events as they unfold and keep

     

    members informed of developments. We

     

    are totally opposed to a so-called

     

    ‘newco’ being admitted into the SPL.

     

    Should this come about we will be

     

    consulting with our members and with

     

    other Celtic supporter organisations

     

    with the aim of deciding on an

     

    appropriate response.

     

    In the meantime we are very keen to

     

    hear the opinions of our members on

     

    the present situation and would

     

    welcome any contribution to the debate

     

    members may wish to make. Any

     

    member who wishes to do so please

     

    contact us at celtictrust@hotmail.com

  20. David Hillier ‏ @DavidHillier

     

    Delaying meeting till 30th, leaves door wide open for negotiated RFC sanctions with support of league. BM bid clearly driving decision.

  21. leftclicktic on

    hen1rik on 7 May, 2012 at 15:31 said:

     

     

     

    Packie Bonner CSC* ‏ @PackieBonnerCSC

     

    Who instructed RFC not to send someone and more importantly why

     

     

    That is a great question!!!!!!!!!!

  22. Auld Neil Lennon heid on

    hen1rik on 7 May, 2012 at 15:41 said:

     

     

    The CST are more than open to joint action.

  23. Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_Noo on

    SPL delay decisions financial fair play and voting rights

     

     

     

    By Chris McLaughlin

     

    Senior Football Reporter, BBC Scotland

     

    Scottish Premier League clubs meeting at Hampden have delayed voting on financial fair play rules until 30 May.

     

    Proposals for increased penalties for clubs in administration include the docking of 10 points for two seasons and the loss of 75% of income for three years.

     

    Dunfermline chairman John Yorkston told BBC Scotland there was not enough information to make a decision.

     

    Rangers did not attend Monday’s SPL meeting at Hampden.

     

    Current rules state that, should a member club wish to transfer its share in the league to a new company, the decision to accept or reject lies with the SPL board.

     

    The top flight clubs were also due to vote on whether to change the league’s voting stucture but that too has been delayed until the end of May.

  24. Auld Neil Lennon heid on

    hen1rik on 7 May, 2012 at 15:44 said:

     

     

    And the balance has to be how crippled wiil they be as a result?

  25. Scottish Premier League clubs

     

    meeting at Hampden have

     

    delayed voting on financial fair

     

    play rules until 30 May.

     

    Proposals for increased penalties for clubs

     

    in administration include the docking of 10

     

    points for two seasons and the loss of 75%

     

    of income for three years.

     

    Dunfermline chairman John Yorkston told

     

    BBC Scotland there was not enough

     

    information to make a decision.

     

    Rangers did not attend Monday’s SPL

     

    meeting at Hampden.

     

    Current rules state that, should a member

     

    club wish to transfer its share in the league

     

    to a new company, the decision to accept or

     

    reject lies with the SPL board.

     

    The top flight clubs were also due to vote on

     

    whether to change the league’s voting

     

    stucture but that too has been delayed until

     

    the end of May.

     

    More to follow.

  26. Briandamage ‏ @Briandamge64

     

    @DavidHillier Yorkston claims more clarity on EBTs required. Time for SPL to produce its findings as well.

  27. Do you know what I:

     

     

    1. rfc (in administration) continue to treat Scottish Football with contempt.

     

     

    2. I think that they are waiting on somebody else to take the decision i.e. HMRC.

     

     

    However, I doubt that will come soon. HMRC do not have any control over when the FTT result will be announced.

     

     

    A question, why did they not send a Representative? The answer would be interesting. Could it be they think they knew what the outcome would be?

     

     

    Keep the Faith!

     

     

    Hail Hail!

  28. Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_Noo on

    Duff & Phelps were against the proposed rule changes. Not sending somebody to the meeting might have been a delaying tactic. It was in their interest not to be there.

     

     

    HAil HAil

  29. Im so stunned the vote was delayed today!!!

     

     

    By the end of the month they will be liquidated anyway. I think the clubs are just protecting themselves from any consequences which makes sense, as the saying goes “We have to live here”.

     

     

    Nobody wants to be seen to pull the trigger so it will be either HMRC that do it or just wait till they run out of cash, either way I think a few folk on here can relax and breathe for they are finished.

     

     

    Hail Hail

  30. I dont know how complicated the reasons for today’s lack of decision is. I’ve got a feeling that these guys quite simply don’t know what to do.