Information leaked from Charles Green that he is due to meet Celtic chief executive, Peter Lawwell today. I’ve no idea if it’s true (sooo many wrong steers from over there) but, if accurate, it puts our man in an invidious position. Mr Green appears generous when reviewing the success of meetings.
At his infamous ‘Blood on their hands’ press conference, would-be-pope-of-Ibrox, Brian Kennedy, told us “HMRC will not agree to a CVA until the very last minute”. Why would they? We believe Green has offered £8.5m but he has spoken about having raised £20m. If HMRC are negotiating at all (and I have my doubts) they will want as much of that £20m as possible, and I’m sure they will, as Mr Kennedy suggested, wait until the very last minute before agreeing to anything (they won’t, b.t.w.).
None of this matters to Mr Green, he can say HMRC told him they’ll scrub the debt if he paints the Blue Room pink and no one can contradict him. He is likely to be looking for some comfort from Mr Lawwell but I am sure he will be told that Celtic are unable to support any measure to parachute a Newco into the SPL (after his CVA fails, which it will). Mr Green, who is also trying to maintain the support of the backers needed to commit cash by Friday, will almost certainly emerge from the meeting uttering words like “constructive”, “helpful” or maybe even “very positive”.
He is wasting his time. Words like “sobering”, “alarming” and “downright obstinate” might be closer to the truth.
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Pete the beat : never played cricket myself but would have to admit to being no stranger to an indiscreet slash waiting for the late bus home from George square in my younger days.
Ernie : I have been told that the only value it has is as a football ground. The land itself is of no real value for housing.
Maybe St Anthony’s could buy it for a tenner. It would be a laugh having hoops playing home games there every other week.
I suppose the only other option would be a super casino, shopping mall and hotel complex. Or has someone suggested that already?
bankiebhoy1 on 28 May, 2012 at 20:30 said:
Ally Lamont….
Aye.
He does have a reputation for being accident prone. If he’s right, he’s right. If he’s wrong, it’s up there for us to laugh at.
the huns soap (you dont see those 2 words together very often) opera just keeps on rumbling along they seem to have sfa spl et al in their pockets even if they are apparently on their knees ! they ll get of scot free yet can see it coming!! hope i am wrong but this is just stinks deadline after deadline being moved for a supposed institution ! their not the only ones corrupt to the core !! hail hail
Deekbhoy
Thanks for your response, I guess it’s a wait and see situation
Lets hope the Barcabhoy “nuclear” bomb goes off soon
I just want them gone!
Paolo’s boots I thought hector would only consider a cva if football creditors were treated in the same way as all other non secured creditors. That would surely lead to foreign associations trying to get uefa or FIFA involved?
So the CVA fails to materialise but Ticketus have accepted it anyway, bless ’em.
Twitter, eh?
Scotspatfan you are right a pint would be alrite .I think the board made a huge mistake by not doing somethiing. With that old school on the London rd kerrydale .they could have put the superstore a couple of bars cafes etc.the superstore could have been the ticket office. But I have said many times on here this present board haven’t a clue
ernie
My apologies but I’m trying to do reports so just dipping in and out this evening. I’m sorry but I don’t know the answer to your question about HMRC.
Awe Naw
Ya old cynic!! :-))
IMHO we shouldn,t be mentioning cva,s or newco,s on here, after the bbc programme last week which proved the rule breaking , and the extent of that rule breaking , that club should be finished , extinct . down the swanee , dead . The fact that they arent is down to people in positions keeping them afloat ,rendering scottish football a complete and utter joke and devoid of any credibility whatsoever .
jimtim
My point exactly , we would have uefa demanding full payment for their members and cva creditors up in arms that they are being treated differently. Divide & conquer so to speak!
jimtim on 28 May, 2012 at 20:46 said:
SPOT ON….!!!!
Duff and Phelps, the administrators of Rangers Football Club, issued the following statement this evening.
Paul Clark, Joint Administrator, said: “A formal notice of the CVA meetings will be sent to all creditors and shareholders of the Club tomorrow providing further details of the CVA process.
“The proposal will offer the best return for all stakeholders given the position the Club is in. If approved by the creditors, the CVA proposal will rescue the Company and finally enable it to exit administration.
“Details of the CVA proposal have been finalised today and there has been additional consultation with certain stakeholders. We had hoped the results of this consultation would have enabled us to publish the proposal today but administrative alterations mean the document will be published tomorrow. Rangers supporters should be reassured the CVA process is on track. The creditors’ meeting to consider, and hopefully approve, the CVA will be held on Thursday 14 June.”
jimtim on 28 May, 2012 at 20:46
++++++++++
WELL SAID!!!!!!!!
paolosboots on 28 May, 2012 at 20:36 said:
You forgot the £40k owed to yours truly !
The proposal will offer the best return for all stakeholders given the position the Club is in. If approved by the creditors, the CVA proposal will rescue the Company and finally enable it to exit administration
THEN THE BTC WILL PUMP YE STRIGHT BACK INTAE IT.
But as mentioned earlier two contracts & side letters should render all cva issues irrelevant.
Anyone got any idea what the offer will be?
On creditors meeting has DUMB &DUMBER
revealed the results of the postal vote they had weeks ago.
HAIL HAIL
Bundoran Bhoy
When you contact me regarding badges could you use my personal E,mail as that was a works one I used last night.
Cheers
HH
timbhoy2 on 28 May, 2012 at 20:43 said:
………I think the board made a huge mistake by not doing somethiing. With that old school on the London rd kerrydale……..
The school is a B listed building and is scheduled to be refurbished before the Commonwealth Games (the Velodrome will open next year) and will be an information centre for visitors.
When the Games are over – it will revert to CFC and form part of our infrastructure (I believe the museum is to be housed there).
off topic I have just watched the undercover report on facism/racism in Poland and Ukraine, it was hideous.
I fail to understand what UEFA hope to achieve by taking this tournament to these countries, Police deny there is a problem when it can clearly be seen/heard from the chants banners logos in the grounds and footage of people being attacked apparently for their colour of skin.Totally sickening and I hope this is not the majority feeling but there seemed a lot of people engaging in this muck
ohits on 28 May, 2012 at 21:06 said:
Sorry mate, will sort email on list
HH
Thats the Green Brigade renewing so section 111 is go for next season, orcs or no orcs
Today’s window has now been opened in the rfc(IA) advent calendar.
Ha-ha, rfc(IA) need to submit audited accounts by 15th June, rfc(IA) need to beg the people they owe money to, to take a haircut, by 14th June. None of these timescales are realistic.
Oh ,and they don’t have a licence to play next season. Oh, and nanny mcphee didn’t get an audience.
Everyday, when I wake-up, I thank the Lord I’m a Celtic fan.
Cannae’ wait to find out what’s behind the big window.
HH
Theweegreenman : the ofer will be a handful of magic beans. The whole thing is a fairytale
Evening bhoys n ghirls, hope we are all well
HH
I have sex daily.
I mean I have dyslexia,
Fcuk it.
Not big on cricket but I do fondly recall the iconic Richie Richardson taking on all comers wearing just a maroon floppy hat while other mere mortals wore crash helmets.
Strangely, Richie developed some kind of death phobia after his mother died and kind of lost his nerve…
Sandman Is Neil Lennon on 28 May, 2012 at 19:57 said:
Did you ever watch Saving Private Ryan? In the film,the group searching for him capture a German prisoner. They are going to kill him but reckon he is no danger to them and release him. Later on in the film the same German kills one of the group in a battle.
The moral of this story is, kill the Huns when you have the chance.
Now you see it…now you don’t.
By the time this is over,that’s all that’ll be left.
Three card monte. In the streets. On the fly.
Always thought the west indies were the cricketing equivalent of playing the Celtic way.
Thanks GGH.
Good to see you back btw. Life in CQN is so serious nowadays. :-)
3 nuns sitting on a bench when a streaker runs past.
2 had a stroke, the other one couldn’t catch him…..
Greenlion2 @ 23:12 yesterday…
Re Carl Muggleton…
In those 6 consecutive league clean sheets, Boyd and Mowbray were ever present in defence. Lee Martin and Mark McNally played in four of the games and Gary Gillespie on three occasions.
Peter Grant slotted in at right back once.
Re the Inter Milan v Borussia Moenchengladbach European Cup controversy in 1971/72 season.
As others posted last night, the first leg in Germany was won 7-1 by Borussia.
However, with the score at 2-1 a soft drink can was thrown from the crowd and struck Boninsegna on the head. He was substituted and Inter were down 4-1 at half time.
Due to injury and a sending off they ended up with nine men and 7-1 down at full time.
Naturally they protested and claimed the game should have been to them 3-0.
UEFA ordered the match replayed, in Berlin, and after the original second leg in the San Siro which Inter won 4-2. The Berlin game ended 0-0.
The rest as they say is history.
They beat us in a penalty shoot out after Celtic had performed brilliantly in the first leg in Milan.
I was at that game and seated right at the tunnel. The Inter fans pelted their players (and indirectly some Celtic fans) with all sorts of debris because they thought they were out.
I know we have given plenty of coverage to Lisbon this past few days however there is an aspect of it which has always intrigued me.
Inter were widely accepted as the best team in the world at the time abeit their style was not pleasing on the eye.
However, in the 60’s and early 70’s it was suspected that Italian teams were quite literally bribing referees.
In his book “Champions of Europe – the history, romance and intrigue of the
European Cup” Brian Glanville devotes a whole 40 page chapter to “The Years of the Golden Fix”
To quote from the chapter on “Milan and Inter” ..”the jiggery pokery of Moratti, Allodi and Solti, an inextinguishable blemish on Inter’s triumphs, leading to the inevitable question, could they have won the European Cup without it?
In his summing up he states “The fact that UEFA had so often dealt so cravenly and ineffectively with with suspected cases of corruption provided a kind of Cheats’ Charter. Inter, after all, had got away with murder, or its metaphorical equivalent, right through the sixties. Juventus were never brought to book.”
Before Lisbon Inter had won the European Cup in 1965 (at the San Siro) and in 1964 beating Real Madrid in Vienna.
In the 1964 tournament, Inter controversially beat Dortmund in the semi final and it was later alleged the Yugoslav referee, Tesanic, enjoyed an all expenses paid for holiday courtesy of Inter.
In the 1965 competition, Liverpool beat Inter 3-1 at Anfield in the first leg but lost 3-0 in Milan with Inter scoring two highly dubious goals.
Bill Shankly revealed in later years that an Italian journalist had told him “you will never be allowed to win.”
And so to Lisbon 1967.
The referee, Kurt Teschener of West Germany, was a top official and I believe he had refereed Inter on 6 or 7 occasions previously and they never lost.
Whilst perhaps only Jim Craig may have thought the penalty award soft it is hardly ever discussed such was Celtic’s dominance in the game. As we saw from some posts at the weekend Celtic’s superiority was absolute.
I am sure we have all watched the game umpteen times and can remember the referee awarding only an indirect free kick right on the penalty spot for very dangerous play by an Inter defender when he executed a scissors kick .
Remember too the most blatant penalty you will ever see when Sarti held on to Willie Wallace’s leg on the goal line!
These incidents are never discussed because we won.
Imagine if we hadn’t won.
The Sarti/Wallace incident would still be discussed to this day.
According to Brian Glanville the previlously mentioned Deszo Solti, notorious for years as “fixer” for Internazionale failed to bribe their man in the 1966 European Cup (Real beat Inter in the semi).
Did Mr Solti attempt to do the same in 1967?
A few years later Joao Havelange, the FIFA President had cause to question Herr Teschener’s credentials.
I wonder if we beat more than Internazionale and the heat in Lisbon.
Just a thought.
garygillespieshamstring @ 23:22 yesterday….
The author of that book about the history of the penalty kick is Clark Miller.
He died before he could complete the book and his father took over the task.
Bought tit on Amazon for pennies.
If Ticketus are to accept a CVA then surely they can’t take Whyte to court for their 24 million can they?
Can someone please explain if it’s possible to take a pence in the pound deal in a CVA then go and try and claim what you’re fully owed in a court of law.
Sorry if this has been covered already but this is the first TIMe I’ve been able to read the blog in nearly a week.
Hail hail
MME
Twgm: Cheers. been lurking when I can get a shot of junior’s laptop. IT police at work mean I cant get on line at home using work laptop. Get on at lunch break at work but shouldn’t really.
Someone just sent me the dyslexia joke on text and after I had hit post button I wondered about whether it was ok or not. No offence intended, just thought it was an amusing play on words.
Could be my first ever deletion for a taste / language violation.
Hh ggh
67 Heaven im neil lennon. i have season ticket renewed last week. and please dont insult me by saying im from the dark side. i only said that i would celtic football club make some changes around the stadium, well here is another thing for you to have a go at me ,when is this so called triangle thing getting started
This will have a few on here not wanting to renew there season book and blame PL ant board.
Bought a new pair of trainers tonight a popular brand never asked how much they paid the people to make them,just bought them.
Gordon Thanks for that. I will have a wee look.
No one could ever describe a mark McNally gary Gillespie partnership as strong protection for a keeper.
Unless you are frank Munro or willie garner.