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Mr Green and his invidious meetings

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Information leaked from Charles Green that he is due to meet Celtic chief executive, Peter Lawwell today.  I’ve no idea if it’s true (sooo many wrong steers from over there) but, if accurate, it puts our man in an invidious position.  Mr Green appears generous when reviewing the success of meetings.

At his infamous ‘Blood on their hands’ press conference, would-be-pope-of-Ibrox, Brian Kennedy, told us “HMRC will not agree to a CVA until the very last minute”.  Why would they?  We believe Green has offered £8.5m but he has spoken about having raised £20m.  If HMRC are negotiating at all (and I have my doubts) they will want as much of that £20m as possible, and I’m sure they will, as Mr Kennedy suggested, wait until the very last minute before agreeing to anything (they won’t, b.t.w.).

None of this matters to Mr Green, he can say HMRC told him they’ll scrub the debt if he paints the Blue Room pink and no one can contradict him.  He is likely to be looking for some comfort from Mr Lawwell but I am sure he will be told that Celtic are unable to support any measure to parachute a Newco into the SPL (after his CVA fails, which it will).  Mr Green, who is also trying to maintain the support of the backers needed to commit cash by Friday, will almost certainly emerge from the meeting uttering words like “constructive”, “helpful” or maybe even “very positive”.

He is wasting his time.  Words like “sobering”, “alarming” and “downright obstinate” might be closer to the truth.

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  1. GourockEmeraldBhoy @ 22:14

     

    had that problem in O’Neill’s (Merchant City) when I tried to take my nephew there before the Falkirk semi-final. Thought it was strange as I had been in there before with friends who had their kids with them. Must have changed their license quite recently.

     

     

    Hail Hail

     

    ballabhoy

  2. Zbyszek on 28 May, 2012 at 23:06 said:

     

    Algarvian

     

     

    Vaccines are obvoius and free of charge for all here in Poland. Maybe that is the answer.

     

     

    Ah, that is probably the reason, thanks.

  3. quonno on 28 May, 2012 at 23:08 said:

     

     

    Do you believe that the duffers can deliver a CVA, not questioning your gut but they haven’t delivered anything in three months, myself I can’t see them delivering a proposal that the creditors will buy…

     

     

    KTF

  4. Snake plissen @ 23.01

     

     

    Worked in CZ for a while (pardubice)) around 2002-2004. Loved the Gambrinus. Best in the world imo! Loved the place actually. Still venture over now and then. My mate still works there. The beer is a wee tad more expensive now! It was around 20p a pint then! Lol

  5. Quonno,

     

    do you have anything to back up your feeling

     

    or is it just a hunch that you have?

  6. celticrollercoaster says In Neil we trust on

    Doc is Neil Lennon on 28 May, 2012 at 23:10 said:

     

     

    You provide canteen facilities for your employees and have it manned and all you get is complaints!!! :-)

     

     

    HH

     

     

    CRC

  7. starry plough on 28 May, 2012 at 23:13 said:

     

    quonno on 28 May, 2012 at 23:08 said:

     

     

    Next question will be can they provide audited accounts by June 14th?

     

    If not will yet another deadline be extended? Of course it will.

  8. GourockEmeraldBhoy on

    ballabhoy on 28 May, 2012 at 23:11 said:

     

     

    That’s the one I was in today… Not to worry had a great steak 2doors down.

     

     

    HH

  9. Doc is Neil Lennon on 28 May, 2012 at 23:18 said:

     

     

    Have you ever shredded a document by mistake, sure is a bugger to put it back together!!

  10. celticrollercoaster says In Neil we trust on

    Somebody please buy the last 25 CQN badges, so I don’t have to supply Bundoran Bhoy anymore bread and water!!!! It’s costing me a fortune :-)

     

     

    HH

     

     

    CRC

     

    cqnbadges@gmail.com

  11. starry plough on 28 May, 2012 at 23:19 said:

     

     

    In all seriousness, how long will the SFA/SPL allow RFC(in administration) before they finally say, no accounts, yer oot?

     

    When wa the last time they produced audited accounts?

  12. Doc is Neil Lennon on 28 May, 2012 at 23:23 said:

     

     

    They probably run out of money and die before then and I’m guessing thats what Nancy Regan and Doomcaster want, nobody wants to unleash the hoardes of huns hinted and winked at by the sleekit one and his frankenstein buddy sardine..

     

     

    People are scared by these thugs and their ways and with this amount of money involved it could get even uglier than it already is..

     

     

    I hope they all get the jail when the walls come tumbling down..

  13. kevin hughes on

    can anyone buy these badges or do we have to examine our concious as the seller is forced labour

  14. starry plough on 28 May, 2012 at 23:28 said:

     

     

    I agree, the impression from all those who could pull the plug is the last thing they want to do if flush them away, fear is the factor.

     

     

    Goodnight all.

     

    I’ll be lurking tomorrow, of that you can be sure(so will you).

  15. Re nuclear rumours

     

     

    A couple of principles guiding options on possible outcomes:

     

     

    – refs, journalist, SFA would gladly assist the Shame for nothing, so not this option

     

    – the EBT is a big fat secret so it needs to be kept in-house, so why would you spread it beyond where you have to

     

    – 2 avenues to explore, the timing of the money going out and how the money came in to the EBTs

     

     

    On the money going out, there is evidence that the EBT was used as a transfer bung pot (Souness). Equally, we know that latterly the Shame were struggling with cash flow and there is the possibility that they could not meet their contractual payments via the EBT. In extremis, there may have been players receiving funds from the EBT after their main contract employment with the Shame was terminated, alledgedly. This would invalidate the registration of the players at their new clubs and throw various leagues into the melting pot.

     

    – the money in rumour focuses on MIM being in alleged receipt of laundered money, which essentially means that the Shame were financed from proceeses of a crime, again allegedly and pure speculation.

     

     

    If true the latter would take years to prove dragging through the courts and would not impact the Shame in the short term. The former would be far easier to prove, if the allegation / rumour were true.

     

     

    Seems to me Mr. Murray had a scant regard for the sport of football and he ran the Shame to purely further his business ambitions …. he was / is in the business world where the big bosses are indeed shameless in chasing the green folding paper … nothing would surprise me now, a blow torch would make no impact on these scoundrels neck.

     

    I will settle for an earthquake off the richter scale on the next revelation

     

     

    3pinthe£hahahahacfc

  16. 67Heaven ... I am Neil Lennon..!!..Truth and Justice will always prevail on

    Doc …..23.23

     

     

    I’ve been going about these accounts for well over a month now……..just cannot understand how, under Company Law, let alone SFA rules, any business can continue to trade if they cannot, or will not, produce audited accounts……….!!??

  17. Silver City Neil Lennon on

    It’s so long since accounts were relevant, I’m struggling to recall salient points. Before admin Rangers couldn’t produce accounts because they would be signed off as not being a going concern. They are now in administration. How can an auditor saying they are not a going concern make things any worse? What else is there to hide?

  18. 67Heaven ... I am Neil Lennon..!!..Truth and Justice will always prevail on

    On…..bleeding iPad …..LOL…..I refuse to admit it’s me getting old, or tired

  19. celticrollercoaster says In Neil we trust on

    kevin hughes on 28 May, 2012 at 23:31 said:

     

     

    Dont worry the slave labour spells the same. Taught by MWD by all accounts :-)

     

     

    HH

     

     

    CRC

  20. Folks,

     

     

    Agenda for Wednesdays get together with SPL clubs:-

     

     

    Administration

     

    Liquidation

     

    Double contracts (allegedly)

     

    Tax evasion -VAT payments

     

    Non payment of PAYE

     

    Non publication of accounts

     

    Tax Evasion – EBT abuse

     

    Non payment of football transfer debts

     

    Non payment of loan player debts

     

    EBT payments to non employees (souness)

     

    AOB ( let’s discuss barcabhoys claims)

     

    VOTE.

     

     

    Coffe and tea will be served.

  21. celticrollercoaster says In Neil we trust on

    Bundoran Bhoy – Saying NO to Newco!! on 28 May, 2012 at 23:41 said:

     

     

    MWD would be so proud :-)

     

     

    HH

     

     

    CRC

  22. 67Heaven ... I am Neil Lennon..!!..Truth and Justice will always prevail on

    Silver City Neil Lennon on 28 May, 2012 at 23:38 said:

     

     

    Not an expert, but I would suggest that the first job for any administrator would be to produce audited accounts ( as a starting point) …….. D&P seem to be ignoring this, and actually produced unaudited accounts…….just not understanding this aspect at all…..how do you get a bottom line if you don’t have a starting line……??

  23. Woops! Posted this on the last thread by mistake:

     

     

    I know Celtic fans have a proud history of internationalism and acting in solidarity with oppressed peoples throughout the world. I don’t post a lot and haven’t even been lurking that much recently, so apols if this has been covered, but, following on from the great display by the Green Brigade in support of Palestinian hunger strikers, please have a look at posts in support of Palestinian International Footballer, Mahmoud Sarsak. #lovejustice4all Mahmoud Sarsak is dying! Follow @Addameer_ps, support organisation for Palestinian prisoners.

     

    You don’t have to support the Palestinian cause to support basic human rights! Detention without trial, without charge, even, sometimes over years – sound familiar?

     

    HH

     

    PV

     

     

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  24. I’ll be on the road tomorrow morning but there will be a new article up at 9:30, an attempt to summaries where we are on various fronts and where next for Celtic.

     

     

    Could someone let people know when the article is up?

     

     

    Thanks.