Information leaked from Charles Green that he is due to meet Celtic chief executive, Peter Lawwell today. I’ve no idea if it’s true (sooo many wrong steers from over there) but, if accurate, it puts our man in an invidious position. Mr Green appears generous when reviewing the success of meetings.
At his infamous ‘Blood on their hands’ press conference, would-be-pope-of-Ibrox, Brian Kennedy, told us “HMRC will not agree to a CVA until the very last minute”. Why would they? We believe Green has offered £8.5m but he has spoken about having raised £20m. If HMRC are negotiating at all (and I have my doubts) they will want as much of that £20m as possible, and I’m sure they will, as Mr Kennedy suggested, wait until the very last minute before agreeing to anything (they won’t, b.t.w.).
None of this matters to Mr Green, he can say HMRC told him they’ll scrub the debt if he paints the Blue Room pink and no one can contradict him. He is likely to be looking for some comfort from Mr Lawwell but I am sure he will be told that Celtic are unable to support any measure to parachute a Newco into the SPL (after his CVA fails, which it will). Mr Green, who is also trying to maintain the support of the backers needed to commit cash by Friday, will almost certainly emerge from the meeting uttering words like “constructive”, “helpful” or maybe even “very positive”.
He is wasting his time. Words like “sobering”, “alarming” and “downright obstinate” might be closer to the truth.
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James Forrest –
I would prefer such a meeting does not take place, but if it does, I would wait to hear what it was about, what was asked and what the outcome was before forming an overall opinion about the rights and wrongs.
It’s pretty late here now James, so I’m going to my scratcher. Hopefully we will know more by the time the Aussie sun comes up, and I will be happy to discuss it with you further, if you so wish.
Hail Hail
Good day on here,
So far,
We are not buying season tickets because rangers might be in the league(Must be a first)
Not buying Celtic tops because of the worlds unfair labour market.
Hating the board, Again! because of a made up Hun story in the Daily ranger.
Did I miss anything out?
Tom McLaughlin:
Thanks for that mate. No nightmares now.
The Ghood will prevail at 14:36
I agree with you, but they haven’t been expelled yet, just as they haven’t been liquidated yet. Celtic cannot act and talk as though they had.
James Forrest is Neil Lennon! We are ALL Neil Lennon! on 28 May, 2012 at 14:33:
Last year I didn’t have a season ticket. This year I have bought one and now I feel good for doing so.
Why? Because I can see that Celtic need us more than ever.
We are under attack more now than I can ever remember.
We are seeing that rangers are prepared to take down the Scottish game by taking the SFA through civil action. They are finished and want to finish everybody else, I won’t stand by and let them.
In my head I can equate the doubt in buying a season ticket for the reasons discussed with the booing of the bunnet raising the league flag.
Sir Paul
Hi, Kiddo.. ye ur gettin’ bettah and bettah.. at this…
Punditry Stuff…
Howevahhhhhh..enuff o’ the Schmoozin’..
Ah hiv a question.
How kin wan tak Mr. GreenJeans.. seriously, and . An mean…SERIOUSLY???
If he Diz Manage tae dae the Next tae impossible..and..
Buys the G.A.
Then Ma question is..
“Whit’s In it . Fur Him.. and Mair.. Importantly..
Whit’s In it. fur..
The Twenty Anonymous Ither members o’ his.. Clandestine CABAL..?
Ah wid luv tae ask him..
“Greenie, baby.. Where did ye find. Twenty Mugs.. who..
are Willin’ tae Chip in. a Cool Million Pounds each.. tae hiv the Doubtful Privilege.. of gettin’ in oan A Deal..
Which.. wull.. Allow them tae get.. a Return oan thur Investment.. o’
A Big Fat .. Five Percent ..o’ ..
NOTHING!!!”
Geez…!! Mr. Greenjeans, Spill the Beans…
How kin Ah get in Touch wi’ those … “Investors”..??
Nae wonder ye refuse tae Identify Them..
fur..
Suckers, like Them. are as scarce as Frog’s Hair!
Kojo
Still ..Laughin’ like Hell…
Disnae Hoit as Much .. Though!!
ASonOfDan:
I am not buying a season ticket because I will not watch a corrupt club piss all over the rest of the league whilst we stand back and do nothing.
The guys who are not buying tops are standing up against organisations which benefit from child labour. That is fair enough to me.
Who says it’s a made up story? We’ll soon find out. If the meeting does take place, I assume you’ll voice an opinion on it, or are you, like Celtic, maintaining a “dignified silence” on things?
BADA BING 1411
Naw,bud. On constant nights.
Route-training this week which means not driving,so no need for the abacus and the stopwatch.
Just as well,too pashed to find them……..
Celtic First
Yup, its been a while since I was involved in the developmental aid business but the women were the ones to invest time and training in.
The Honest Mistake loves being first:
“In my head I can equate the doubt in buying a season ticket for the reasons discussed with the booing of the bunnet raising the league flag.”
Want to say that in a different way? Not sure I am reading that right.
Grant Russell@STVGrant
STV can reveal Rangers haven’t met criteria to play in SPL next season, extension given til June 15 to provide accounts
Bonty back? dearie me, things must be looking bad for Der Hun.
Kojo – hope you’re feelin’ better, just don’t overdo the ole jiggin’.
Maks sense tae me, and it maks sense tae Mo.
Huns given to 15th June now to have their accounts in.
Sffs
Someone posted the other day that they queued for 3 hours to renew their season ticket.
Maybe the 2 or 3 from cqn boycotting haven’t had the desired affect after all.
Auldheid. Thanks.
forget cva’s new company this cheating club should have been booted out by now
leave the ebt’s as side for a moment, this year alone they have cheated and had an
unfair advantage over all teams by with holding millions in paye/ni this is a fact,
dunfermline have been relegated when they should not have been, rangers should
have been kicked out thus dunfermline stay up along with ross.co, that it has come
to pass that dunfermline were allowed to be relegated without any other club [celtic
included] standing up for them while this farce was allowed tell’s me that all is
not as it should be or will be.
I might love playing poker but i sure as hell wouldn’t sit down at a table when i knew the game was rigged and had been for years. Particularly when the casino was openly laughing in my face about my losses.
How many weans in the developing world are eating a dinner tonight that their parents have paid for using wages they earned in a factory making Celtic tops?
I think the numbers will be high. I think Brother Walfrid would quite like the idea.
Antrimkev, two comments deleted today. One for a language violation (you will not the excellent observance the language rules have) and one for making an abusive comment against another user. Please desist.
Gordon_J backing Neil Lennon on 28 May, 2012 at 14:49 said:
That is yet another continuation of the High Farce which is football in Scotland.
So, do they need the license or not? Is it required or not? Why the extension if, as Blair said yesterday, the license isn’t needed?
What happens when – not if, but WHEN – Rangers miss this deadline? When is the fixture list out? Are we going to have the season delayed?
How much more of this can fans be expected to have to accept?
Rangers have missed those deadlines by a month. From what I understand about the accounting rules, it is a practical impossibility for Rangers to have signed and audited accounts by that day. The creditors meeting might not even be held by then, and the creditors have 28 days to either approve or otherwise.
How can that deadline be met? It seems, on the surface, an impossibility.
What in God’s name is going on here? Is ANYONE running the national game?
My dear,dear,dear,friend.. Don’tbrattbackkinanger.
Hiya,pally?
Ye are right.. Ah wull hiv tae cut doon oan the jiggin’
Only… Four Times a week.. fae noo oan.
Seven Times.. wiz .. jist askin’ fur Trouble!
Kojo
yer pal. who likes ye . aloater.
Still. Laughin’
How many weans in the developing world are going to school tomorrow wearing shoes that their parents paid for using wages they earned by working in high finance, brokering hedge fund deals?
Welcome back Kojo.
Hope you are in rude health.
Che on 28 May, 2012 at 14:43 said:
CORRECT
Ticketus – didn’t they become a creditor while the club was in administration? Not sure if I heard this right, but aren’t all new debts which are incurred during the admin process paid out in full (effectively a secured creditor)?
Kojo:
We haven’t always got on, but it’s good you’re back on your feet.
Welcome home son.
Ole Sandy Jardine is walking aroun’, and marchin’ up and down, and walking aroun’ in shoes [ probably of the brown brogue species] paid for by The ole Wages of Sin.
South Of Tunis on 28 May, 2012 at 14:32 said:
I don’t think anybody can argue about working conditions, and at all times these should be of the highest standards, and I’m against the practise of child labour in principle also. However I always think it’s a little disingenuous to bring up the wage level, without reference to what the local cost of living is.
As an example, I went ot India a long, long time ago and just after I came back there was a report about (Adidas I think) paying workers (adults in this case) 50p/day. Now that sounded terribly low. However, at that time you could still get a basic room and eat in basic restaurants for the day for about £1 (I ate out one night for 2.5p – decent food too). Extrapolate that to the UK at the time, and it was the equivalent to about £20-25 day, which was about the same as I got for working in the Celtic Ticket Office. I’m not sure my conditions were better either.
As I said no argument about bad conditions where they exist and again I’m not in favour of children being in full-time employement either but in some cases the daily wage can be a bit of a red herring.
James Forrest,
Farce indeed.
I’m sure by accounts they mean audited accounts. And these have to be accepted by an AGM – and one of those normally requires three weeks notice.
The timing issue in all of this becomes very interesting. We all know that a CVA won’t be accepted and that liquidation will follow. A newco has a lot to do to get up and running – even if rules are changed, it wins a vote, etc.
It is clear that those in charge of the game will give them as long as possible. But at some stage they need to say enough is enough. Calling a club up form the SFL can be done at fairly short notice – after all Dunfermline or Dundee would be happy to answer the call. But that would leave a space in the SFL – and getting a new club in there is a time consuming business of applications, checks and a vote.
The SFA in theory has overall responsibility for the game in Scotland. It needs to take charge and ensure that all leagues can be up an running in accordance with all of football’s rules.
I’m not holding my breath though – especially given who the current President of the governing body is.
Rogue Leader @14:06 was right on the money. Green has no legal standing to talk to Lawwell. Rogue suggested that if, for some reason, say, courtesy or curiosity, PL agrees to a meeting, then it should be in front of a recorder.
I would go further. If they meet, Celtic should film the event, then keep their counsel until, if and when, Green or the media twist the conversation to their own ends.
I also agree with a previous poster that we have not focused sufficiently on the license issue. The stench of corruption on this is almost palpable. If the rules exist, the governing bodies waive or ignore them. If the rules on, say voting structure do not suit, they change them.
And what of the money laundering allegations on other blogs? Much more to come on these, I think.
JAMES FORREST 1403
I foolishly thought that was you for the day.
Offski. Till another time,which of course we would all look forward to.
So to what did you refer when you said I’m done with this,to hell with it?
Again,just askin’,like.
RSVP,ASAP,I’m on nightshift and need some kip……..
My dear,dear,dear,friend.. Googybhoy
Hiya.. Pally??
Sure.. Ah am feelin’ bettah, by the Hoor…
And.. It wont be long.. until… am wull be eatin’ solid food.. again.
This ..Pablum stuff..is..
Ye..uchhhhhhhhhhh!!
Kojo
yer pal.. who likes ye aloater
Still. Laughin’
Kojo,
it’s right good, tae see ye, bak in the…swing o’ things.
Jist be careful and folly the sage advice o’ the sawbones, howevvuh , ad be sure and no’ swing…TOO MUCH!
Yer pal,
Who’s glad tae see yer awrite,
gerryguk7
BOBBY MURDOCH’S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS:
You also get a good kip. Later on for a longer conversation.
I am trying to digest this latest piece of sheer nonsense.
Greetings from Jungli in Taiwan from a noisy wee pub full of people playing dice games!
Free wi-fi so no complaints from me.
Let’s wait and see whether Agent Green hs actually met our esteemed leaders before crucifying him.
Glasgows’s still Green and Whyte!
RobinBhoy
Glad to see you back Kojo!
Look forward to reading more of your posts. :-)
Good to see Kojo back. The blog is different without him stirring things. I’ve just been reading back. I’m in complete awe of Bontybhoy’s intellect, and so is he. Perhaps a little Alexander Pope—“A little learning is a dangerous thing—“