I get that football thrives where it is a manifestation of tribalism. Across Europe and beyond club flags offer people more affinity with than any national emblem.
But, with one or two exceptions, it’s a largely innocuous brand. We get to wear tribal garb and indulge in our rituals without onerous economic consequence. The echo from the Great Recession, which we are still hearing today, has been a lesson in what can happen when a tribe perceives that its relative position has diminished.
That perception often bears absolutely no relation to reality, but widespread economic illiteracy makes us look like a primitive animals.
My only flag’s a Celtic flag. You are my only tribe.
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No matter what side of the Trump/Clinton argument you come from I think we can say that neither of them are a shining example of humanity or offer a genuinely brighter hope for the future.
Democracy was the loser when they became the candidates.Sad.
Everyone’s a loser baby,that’s true.
Hurry back Celtic and give us something uplifting to talk about.
A lovely wee example of the sterling work of the MSM continuing.
Was out for a walk today with a couple of former colleagues and we walked from Strathclyde Park up to Rosebank, along the Clyde Walkway. As one of the guys was a former season ticket holder at Ibrox (one of those fans who is never a hun) I joked that we could have a late lunch in the Popinjay and that would help wee Bazza a bit with his tax bill. “His tax bill?” enquired my mate. “Yeah, you know, paying the tax on his EBT”. “But I thought they were declared legal” says he. After explaining the ruling that had taken place in the Supreme Court in Edinburgh he simply looked at me and asked “Are you sure? Is this one of your Timmy wind-ups?”
This is an educated, well read guy who had no idea of the current state of the EBT/HMRC case. But obviously in the media he reads/listens to he has not had any info at all. What the hell do these media clowns think will be the eventual outcome of the release of the final findings on this case, assuming HMRC win it?
Jill Stein , the US green candidiate who would have been a brilliant president endored Trump as being the better choice. Things are changing in the world -the warmongers may have had their day . Hilary might soon be languishing in jail.
I enjoyed Terry Butchers commentary on the semi final, thought he was quite funny:))
The Exiled Tim
Can’t say too much about what you are talking about but can say this.
Before Rangers went bust they did contact the now President Elect. You may have heard that in his business he surrounds himself with the brightest and best people.
Unfortunately for the Govanites this at the most senior level includes a bunch of Irish American New Yorkers who happen to be Celtic daft.
Some might say they had a bit of fun stringing them along.
“Let’s make Sevco great again”
Donald Chump 2012
RAY WINSTON oops that’s what I get for trying to Americanise myself with dates in the calendar !
9/11,
11/9. You can’t trust those yanks to even get dates the right way round !
Cheers.
HH
Joey’s offski :-)))
http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11788/10650390/rangers-and-joey-barton-agree-mutual-contract-termination-sky-sources
9/11 is the Yankee way ……the 11th of the 9th was the way I was taught at an East end Catholic Glesca school, the proper way IMO. Lol
HH
Any update on Mikael Lustigs injury Bhoys ?
My dad was like a father to me.
Winnings
That is good to hear :-)
HH
Teacher in the classroom and asks ” right boys and girls please tell the class what your father died for a living” ?
Wee Molly in the front row, ” miss, miss my dad is a carpenter”.
Teacher, ” that’s excellent Molly, and what’s your dad’s favourite part of his work” ?
Molly, ” building new window frames miss”.
Teacher, ” that’s great Molly, anyone else” ?
Wee Peter in the middle, ” miss, my dad is an electrician”.
Teacher, ” Peter that’s terrific, what’s your dad’s favourite part of his job” ?
Wee Peter, ” repairing people’s lights miss”.
Teacher ” fantastic Peter, anyone else” ?
Wee Johnny at the back sticks his hand up.
Teacher ” Yes Johnny” ?
Wee Johnny, ” miss my dad is a majician ” !
Teacher ” Well Johnny that’s very unusual, what’s your dad’s favourite part if his job” ?
Wee Johnny ” Sawing people in hawf miss”.
Teacher ” that’s fantastic Peter, now tell us more about the rest of your family” ?
………Johnny ” Well miss, I’ve got two hawf brothers and two hawf sisters” !
HH
Died= DOES !
We were told he couldn’t win?
oh boy
the world has changed and the mainstream media are well behind the sneaky lying bassas
Can any of the Canadian based Bhoys on her confirm to me that the mass Exodus from Hollywood has started..?? HH
Good Evening.
The election of Donald Trump as America’s 45th President is the result of so-called democracy in action, yet I believe it also represents the failure of the American democratic system in particular and it represents a failure of democracy in general.
I don’t say that because I could not, and never would have voted for Trump, but because I believe that more and more the general electorate of this country, America and many other democracies are simply fed complete and utter bullshit by the candidates and the media who choose to back or “report on” this political candidate or that.
Of the two candidates, I personally would have voted for Clinton yet I am not a fan of hers and am not at all certain about her political credentials or bona fides.
Equally, I am not at all convinced that Trump ever intends to fulfill some of the campaign promises he has made over the past few months (thank God) and he strikes me as no more than an opportunist which hardly makes him unique amongst politicians.
What bothers me most is that it would seem to be easier and easier for politicians of all hues to make repeated ridiculous claims, spout inaccuracy after inaccuracy, break promise after promise and to be permanently contrary and contradictory in what they say to the electorate and to the public in general — and there is no honest, unbiased press which seeks to hold them to account.
Take, as an example, the claims about the Clintons and their foundation.
I have now heard numerous late night debates involving different people some of whom say that the Clintons milked the foundation dry, and others who say that these claims have been completely debunked, are wholly inaccurate and proven to be so, but that the allegations remain and get repeated as if true time after time.
Both these stances cannot be true, yet there they are, repeated day after day, with the public caught in the middle.
In this country, during the Brexit vote we received inaccurate claim after inaccurate claim leading up to the vote, and more or less immediately afterwards the politicians turn round and say “yes we lied and we can admit that now.”
I recall the story of the late Mo Mowlem who visited the home of a wee woman who said she was worried that if the Tories were elected the NHS would should down completely and the woman would not receive a much needed operation.
Mowlem, went back to see the woman privately and told her not to worry because despite the fact that the Labour party were openly saying that a Tory victory would immediately result in an NHS shutdown, the truth was that none of them believed this was true because they knew the NHS would still be there but administered differently. Accordingly, the woman shouldn’t worry.
In short, the campaigning was dishonest.
It is now the norm for all political parties to be dishonest in my opinion, and that politicians no longer stand in elections to serve or to provide “Government of the people by the people for the people” but to promote their own self interests and to advance their own career in politics and in business.
In achieving this objective, they are backed by a press which is controlled by a few, is highly compromised, lacks integrity and objectivity in the main, and has been shown to stoop to the lowest level of behaviour in their attempts to create scandalous and sesnationalist news.
In America, you either vote Democrat or Republican. While you can technically vote independent, when it comes to the President, you really have a choice of two. Accordingly if the press smears one successfully then there is a good chance people will switch to the other.
Allowing this circle of deception and inaccuracy to become the norm hardly represents proper or admirable democracy.
The professional political classes now rely on the press to do their bidding by way of supporting them or attacking the opposition with little regard to truth.
As a result, truth and honesty become immediate victims, as do the electorate, but the real victim is proper democracy which relies on enfranchised voters freely casting a vote based real knowledge surrounding the candidates and the issues.
Sadly, we now appear to be permanently divorced from that version of democracy and live in a world where deception and dishonesty by the political classes is not only acceptable but encouraged.
This entire electoral process represents an abject failure of what the process is meant to be, and it brings no credit whatsoever to either candidate or the USA as a whole.
As for the rest of us, there is only one place where you will be oblivious to the consequences of this political failure, and that is in Craiglang!
Paul
I’ve read your leader at least twice…
Incomprehensible for me.
Not sure if it’s a football comment or a political one… especially on this important day.
Maybe it’s just me who has a dislike of cryptic messages rather than saying things clearly.
Will read it again … later on.
BRTH
Or in other words…
‘The People have spoken….the Bastards’
dicktuckcsc
Parkheadcumsalford
Regards Butcher.
You are spot on. I have heard him say in interview that he was 1st RFC captain who wasn’t a mason. In all other aspects he immersed himself in Klan Kulture.
His wife pointed out the error of his ways and told him to look at what he had become …a bigot.
Butcher took stock and changed his stance.
Sevco supporters hold him with little affection after this revelation because of course they all don’t have a bigoted bone in their bodies!!
Donald Trump…… Yanks appear to be like Sevconians… complete and utter fools!
HH
CELTIC MAC on 9TH NOVEMBER 2016 5:54 PM
BRTH
Or in other words…
‘The People have spoken….the Bastards’
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From what I’ve seen Clinton has received a majority of the popular vote but the electoral college system hasn’t reflected that. It’s happened before to the Democrat’s benefit.
It’s not a great system.
Brogan……..
” In America, you either vote Democrat or Republican. While you can technically vote independent, when it comes to the President, you really have a choice of two. Accordingly if the press smears one successfully then there is a good chance people will switch to the other. ”
The msm in the States did their level 5 best to destroy Trump, they failed big time, I wonder why ?
Maybes the people are really no that stupid, maybes the people don’t want more of the same, maybes the people are hoping for a glimmer of change, who knows, but the mainstream to a hell of a beating yesterday.
I personally doubt there will be much or any change, but if he does nothing else other than foster positive relations with the likes of Russia instead of wanting to start a war with them I for one will be delighted.
HH
Ernie
She was about 400K short of the popular vote, but for she had the vote in the east and west coasts where there are a whean of people in comparison to the rest of the country, it’s little wonder, but she still didn’t get more votes at the end of the day.
HH
‘GG on 9th November 2016 3:06 pm
TET
If only Trump had bought Ibrox.
The loss making company with no credit line from a bank would be in the bin of history and a hotel and shopping complex would be springing up from the asbestos riddled ruins of Ibrox.
At last, a Trump supporter on here………….HH
Not for or against one side or the other , but I think this is quite amusing….
To Bombay
A traveling circus came
They brought an intelligent elephant
And Hillie was her name
One dark night
She slipped her iron chain
And off she ran to Hindustan
And was never seen again
Hillie the Elephant packed her trunk
And said goodbye to the circus
Off she went with a trumpety-trump
Trump, trump, trump
Hillie the Elephant packed her trunk
And trundled back to the jungle
Off she went with a trumpety-trump
Trump, trump, trump
Night by night
She danced to the circus band
When Hillie was leading the big parade
She looked so proud and grand
No more tricks
For Hillie to perform
They taught her how to take a bow
And she took the crowd by storm
Hillie the Elephant packed her trunk
And said goodbye to the circus
Off she went with a trumpety-trump
Trump, trump, trump
Hillie the Elephant packed her trunk
And trundled back to the jungle
Off she went with a trumpety-trump
Trump, trump, trump
The head of the herd was calling
Far, far away
They met one night in the silver light
On the road to Mandalay
Hillie the Elephant packed her trunk
And said goodbye to the circus
Off she went with a trumpety-trump
Trump, trump, trump
Hillie the Elephant packed her trunk
And trundled back to the jungle
Off she went with a trumpety-trump
Trump, trump, trump
Hillie the Elephant packed her trunk
And said goodbye to the circus
Off she went with a trumpety-trump
Trump, trump, trump
Hillie the Elephant packed her trunk
And trundled back to the jungle
Off she went with a trumpety-trump
Trump, trump, trump
Hang on. It happened to Al Gore, so it was to the Republican’s benefit, not the Democrats.
Just imagine if it happened to Trump. Would he have accepted the result , or claim the election was rigged?
ernie lynch
Just wait till the dead vote comes in…
THE EXILED TIM on 9TH NOVEMBER 2016 6:08 PM
According to this she had more votes, whether it’s changed since then I couldn’t say.
http://metro.co.uk/2016/11/09/hillary-clinton-actually-got-more-votes-than-donald-trump-but-he-still-won-the-election-6247216/
Either way, it’s not the overwhelming landslide for Trump you’d think had happened going by the electoral college.
The establishment are not getting their way in recent polling. How dare lesser ordinary working people oppose the establishment and political elite. They should do what they are told to do, after all we ( the establishment) are far better educated than them.
How will the establishment fight back ? They will manipulate the voting system , they will gerrymander the system, they will put more restrictions on who is allowed to vote.
They may even think of allowing school-kids to vote if they calculate it will help them. Oh wait a minute.
Some names for the Canadian Bhoys to look out for………..
Cher, Miley Cyrus, Samuel L Jackson, Barbara Streisand et al.
Mine is a red flag too. Humanity is my tribe.
sixtaseven
of course the republicans have the elephant as a symbol :)
Ernie
I think it is a landslide for Trump, all the polls were telling us HRC was miles ahead, the fact he won is a landslide imo.
There was videos on Youtube earlier of people voting and their votes were getting flipped to Clinton, hundreds of countys were down due to this, the surprise for me is he won, a few will be getting their baws booted me thinks.
HH
THE EXILED TIM on 9TH NOVEMBER 2016 6:22 PM
I agree with you, when polling agencies right to the wire suggest that Clinton had a 96% chance of winning then the differential must be regarded as a landslide.
HH.
See there is a wee rise in support for Clifornia’s cessation from the rest of the US.
Let’s not miss a trick here guys, have Scotland join #Calexit and at least we will be roasting hot.
MWD
Anyway,
On Saturday night myself and others are sleeping out in the cold with a view to raising some dough for the benefit of people who don’t give a kipper’s dick whether Trump won or not!
The Celtic Charity Foundation is hoping to raise enough money to support 250 locally disadvantaged families and a whole host of others including the homeless and those who just want a roof over their heads and a bed to sleep in.
Can I just a say a huge thankyou to those who have donated and sponsored me already. Your generosity has been outstanding and is greatly appreciated.
If you haven’t donated, there here is the link to enable you to do so. Every penny counts so please do what you can if at all possible.
Thanks very much.
BRTH
https://mydonate.bt.com/fundraisers/jamesmcginley2
Trump won fair and square. He was selected as the Republican Candidate and President-Elect through entirely democratic processes. I think it’s unfair to prejudge his Presidency before he even takes his seat at the White House. Lets see what he is able to deliver or not as the case may be. You know i think he might just make a relative success of it….Love him of loathe him, it is astonishing what he has achieved.